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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP senator: I can lecture women on pregnancy because abortion is a ‘men’s issue’
Republican Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma argued on Monday that he had the right to lecture women about whether or not they should get abortions because he had impregnated his wife and had something to do with the birth.
During a debate on the Senate floor about whether or not to defund Planned Parenthood, Lankford argued that the culture has been wrong to allow abortion.
Lankford said that it was entirely reasonable to take Planned Parenthoods funding and commit it to organizations who do full womens health.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, however, said that she was bothered by men like Lankford lecturing women about reproductive health.
I just dont like lectures by men about what its like, Boxer told Lankford. Im pro-choice and I just have to say, using pregnancy as a political football doesnt sit well with the people I represent and the people of this country.
We have to respect one another, she continued. I respect your view entirely. Im asking you to respect mine. Keep Uncle Sam out of my private life and my childrens and my grandkids and yours. Families will make these decisions with their God, with their doctor.
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kwolf68
(7,365 posts)good job
procon
(15,805 posts)Seems like a just and fair solution since it's a mens issue.
erronis
(15,257 posts)Two children already - not enough income to do much more damage.
Last time I mentioned this, I got thrown into the juror's pool, but I think it is still merited:
Men that abuse children, rape other people, or promote that type of behavior,
should have forced vasectomies (or castration.)
We are a brutish society. We are perfectly willing to let the boys-in-blue kill innocent people.
If a woman, married or not, is forced to have sex by a man and the proof is strong, that man should lose his ability to father children. Even better, he should lose the desire to inflict his domination on others.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)nruthie
(466 posts)But Republicans respect no-one who thinks differently than they do. Period. End of discussion.
When that freak gives birth then he might be entitled to an opinion regarding abortion and reproductive rights.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)"Families will make these decisions with their God, with their doctor."?
Because that sounds eerily like what this idiot Lankford said
This is not just a womens issue, this is a mens issue as well. Because this is a family issue. And the family is extremely important to all of us.
red dog 1
(27,804 posts)Boxer could just as well have said: "Families will make these decisions with their doctor."
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)feces. My question is,is Stupid a mandatory Subject which is receiving Federal School Tax Dollars to be taught? What a waste.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Maybe inside a marriage or a long-term relationship the man can have some say, but in the end it's up to the woman.
When my boys were teens, I often told then that it may not be fair, but it's right that if they get a woman pregnant, in the end it's her decision and her decision only whether or not to have the baby. Even if they're very unhappy about that decision. They won't be pregnant, they won't go through anything connect to a pregnancy, and too bad.
I prefer to point out to the anti-choice crowd that if they don't believe in abortion then they shouldn't have one.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)now you have a right to comment.
Laffy Kat
(16,379 posts)The girls/women have the say. Their jobs, as the lover or potential father, is to support their partner's choice. Period.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)And I've gotten to the point where I'm not joking.
red dog 1
(27,804 posts)Transurethral Resection of the Brain.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)doctor?
Listen, buddy, you don't like abortion, don't have one! Leave women alone...
tanyev
(42,558 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)buncha bullshit is what that is.
Warren destroyed that GOP talking point by saying they did EVERYTHING to prevent the creation of community health centers when it was Obamacare's thing.
One in 5 women in this country has been to PP. That's one helluva lot of people. Nothing like pissing off millions of women in this country...sheesh...
avebury
(10,952 posts)as soon as a single woman find out that she is pregnant she should file in court for full child support and medical insurance that would be allocated to a child that has been born. Imagine how that would fly when a married man gets another woman pregnant.
Lankford is a total idiot, and unfortunately one of my senators.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)why do you think they want to go back to the good old days when women could not vote and men ruled them
SnakeEyes
(1,407 posts)why women are republicans and why they support defunding PP
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Vinca
(50,271 posts)MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)he only has say over his uterus.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)that want the money
SnakeEyes
(1,407 posts)What do you mean by PP doesn't pay for abortion care?
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)does not acknowledge that abortions have always occurred among humans...other animals kill off their young...some birds purposefully kick their eggs out of the nest...people who think like him need to be educated in historical biology...and not by a right-wing, bigoted nitwit...
Special note to Lankford...sperm donors do not have to be present when a woman becomes pregnant...we men donate sperm...not much of a role in producing offspring...
ananda
(28,860 posts).. since his brain has been infested with it.
packman
(16,296 posts)I just knew it was a "men's issue". They being all full of hormones , feelings, pain, bloating and such. The poor darlings just can't make logical decisions in their state. Now, I'm going to hide out in the garage.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Perhaps Senator Lankford can join them. They'd have plenty to talk about.
N.Y. to Paris
(110 posts)These issues should always be discussed between a man and his doctor......
Please Proceed Senator!!!!
My God, I so hope the people of this country hand these "people" their
collective asses in this next election.....it's a plea......!
AllFieldsRequired
(489 posts)poor women dare to have sex and get pregnant.
Men like this really dont like women, at all.
AT ALL
niyad
(113,306 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)before they were forced upon society.
red dog 1
(27,804 posts)I just wish Senator Boxer had left "God" out of her remarks to that bird-brain Lankford.
niyad
(113,306 posts)decision "prayerfully", in talking to rick warren.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)It's like they ordered a bunch of douchebag creme, lathered their bodies up and "fuck you, this is us and you will deal with it."
And people vote for these assholes.
niyad
(113,306 posts)what in the **** do you think the other NINETY-SEVEN PERCENT of their services are?????
niyad
(113,306 posts)Website http://www.lankford.senate.gov
Contact 316 Hart Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510
(202) 224-5754
Party Republican
faithful, conservative leader:
. . . .
Encouraging personal faith, committed families, practical education and the critical need for everyone to invest in the next generation has always been important to Senator Lankford. Before James time in Congress, he served as the Director of the Falls Creek Youth Camp and Director of Student Ministry at the Baptist Convention of Oklahoma from 1995 to 2009. Falls Creek is the largest youth camp in the United States, with more than 51,000 students and adults attending each summer.
. . .
http://www.lankford.senate.gov/content/about-james
Jeb Bartlet
(141 posts)he means he stood by while she did everything.
Lankford's comment about PP is simply stupid. There is no other organization that does as much as PP for women's health. It's pathetic that people like Lankford get elected to office only because they aren't smart enough to do a real job.
mythology
(9,527 posts)like reminding her to breathe and cutting the umbilical cord. Clearly manly arduous work that is way harder than the birthing process. I mean the woman gets to just lay there on a bed and relax after getting doped up.
For the impaired, please insert your own sarcasm icon here.
But more seriously, do these people not actually think about what they are saying before they say it? How does that sentence get formed in his mind without some sort of common sense kicking in to stop him from saying it out loud by reminding him, wait, I just stand there or sit in the waiting room while she is (as my mom described childbirth to me) shoving a wet saint bernard through a cat door.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)with no business being near the levers of power.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)with males who whine "But what about MY rights? It's my baby too!"
Lemme break it down for anyone who doesn't get it:
Men, you have rights. You have the right to decide if and when you want to donate your sperm to a woman. That's a huge decision. Make it wisely! Because once you have given her the sperm, she's in charge of it and anything that grows from it.
Pregnancy is her risk, her burden if it happens, her expense, her medical consequences. So she decides, not you. If you don't like that idea, don't give her any of your sperm. See? Easy!
(Now, if she managed to steal your sperm, maybe by taking you up in a spaceship and using an alien probe on you against your will, I dunno, maybe you have a case. But iassuming your donation was voluntary, quit whining. She's in charge as soon as your three seconds of glory are done.
Now I've heard some of you fine Christian men cry that a "baby" of yours was aborted by some ungodly hussy who cared nothing about your fatherly devotion to the "child." Here's how you could have prevented that:
-- only have sex with your wife
-- marry a woman who is pro-life.
-- do not have sex with her unless she says she is ready to have a child with you.
(Because, ya know, if you run around having sex with random women, you can't really expect to control their decisions and health and future. Nor are you acting particularly Christian.)
See how easy that is? Now, go away. You irritate the fuck outa me.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I almost respect Lankford for coming out and owning the "douchebag who hates women" label so blatantly.
Almost.