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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:00 AM Aug 2015

I was listening to a Trump interview on Morning Joe ...

I was struck by how closely what he was saying tracked with some voices on DU:

Trump on the ACA: It's just a give away to the insurance companies.

Trump on Blacks and Hispanics: I'm going to win with them both because all they want jobs that won't get shipped to China

Trump on Foreign Affairs: All we have to do is be tough with the other guy and tell them what to do. Deal with it.

Trump on everything: I don't have to follow the rules because I know more/better.

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I was listening to a Trump interview on Morning Joe ... (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 OP
I leave too early to catch Morning Joe but . . . JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #1
Funny ... A couple minutes after I posted that observation ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #2
I would like to see how leftynyc Aug 2015 #12
Trump on the ACA Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #3
Yes ... there is a lot of the same sentiment, though for different reasons ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #5
Reflexive reaction? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #9
Plus its a slap at anyone who criticizes anything here (including Bernie supporters) Armstead Aug 2015 #14
It was thick enough of a veil that I didn't see it as an insult. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #18
I was refrring to memes and stereotypes, not reality Armstead Aug 2015 #22
Yes a reflexive reaction -- People do act reflexsively when insulted Armstead Aug 2015 #15
You may have a point there pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #4
And JOE slobbers and gushes over donald. nothing new riversedge Aug 2015 #6
He has become Trump's shower bitch. One of the 99 Aug 2015 #21
Trump is an idiot who is playing to a segment of the GOP base Gothmog Aug 2015 #7
And apparently, 19% of the Democratic Party (if he does a 3rd-Party run) n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #8
Uh, no. The number of Democrats who said they would vote for him, 9%. The 19% are people Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #16
Isn't that what I said? 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #17
No you said he's applealing to 19% of our Party, which is not what the polling says, the polling Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #20
I think that is from a Rassie poll Gothmog Aug 2015 #25
You didn't mention the part where Trump said he was in favor of a single payer health care system tularetom Aug 2015 #10
He did say it in 2000 sunnystarr Aug 2015 #23
So would you vote for Trump? INdemo Aug 2015 #11
Hell NO! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #13
Joe's slant is always something favorable to the Republicans... CTyankee Aug 2015 #19
The dream ticket: Clinton/Trump Binkie The Clown Aug 2015 #24
Trump on everything.. Stellar Aug 2015 #26
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. Funny ... A couple minutes after I posted that observation ...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:07 AM
Aug 2015

As if we needed further evidence that DU is becoming strange space ... a poll hit DU indicating 19% of likely voting Democrats would support Trump in a 3rd Party run (9% very likely).

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. I would like to see how
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:48 AM
Aug 2015

the question is worded. I would HIGHLY support a third party run by Trump. Will just make it easier for the Democratic nominee to win.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Trump on the ACA
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:10 AM
Aug 2015

It's just a giveaway to the insurance companies, so we need to get rid of the ACA and go back to totally private insurance.

There's some nuance you glossed over.

The 'voices on DU' say it's a giveaway to insurance companies, so we need to get rid private insurance out of it and go single payer.

Likewise, while Trump might say 'jobs that don't get shipped overseas', he doesn't walk the walk, and has said he 'has to outsource' to 'compete' when asked about his various product lines already made abroad.

Foreign affairs: Yup, there's an authoritarian, hawkish contingent on DU. Certainly not the same folks as the ones who think ACA is a giveaway to pharma and insurance, or the people who want domestic jobs, though.

Trump on everything: Sorry? You seem to have accidentally posted a statement from the Clintons after this one.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. Yes ... there is a lot of the same sentiment, though for different reasons ...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:17 AM
Aug 2015

But why do this?

Trump on everything: Sorry? You seem to have accidentally posted a statement from the Clintons after this one.


Reflexive reaction?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. Reflexive reaction?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:30 AM
Aug 2015

You're joking, right?

I don't have to follow the rules because I know more/better.


That's been the Clinton mantra for decades. It's the story of their political lives, from kinky sex in the Oval Office to private email servers at State. It's the thing they both do best.
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. Plus its a slap at anyone who criticizes anything here (including Bernie supporters)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:08 AM
Aug 2015

"I don't have to follow the rules because I know more/better. "

A not so thinly veiled swipe at Sanders

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
18. It was thick enough of a veil that I didn't see it as an insult.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:23 AM
Aug 2015

Sanders follows the rules, and has won election after election doing so. What he doesn't follow is 'conventional wisdom'.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. Uh, no. The number of Democrats who said they would vote for him, 9%. The 19% are people
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:20 AM
Aug 2015

who say they support his being a candidate. Very different things. In 2008 for example, 10% of Democrats voted for McCain, 9% of Republicans voted for Obama. 2012, 7% of Democrats for Mitt, 6% of Republicans for Obama. 1992, Bush and Clinton each got 10% of the other Party. And so on....

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. No you said he's applealing to 19% of our Party, which is not what the polling says, the polling
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:48 AM
Aug 2015

says about 9% of Democrats would vote for him, which is very similar to the percentage of members of each Party who vote for the other Party in every cycle. In that way, it means very little about Trump in specific because all the candidates of both Parties get similar percentage of cross over votes as is predicted in this poll.

All this polling tells me is that every cycle, a percentage of each Party votes for the other and that range tends to be between 6 and 10% and the range is almost always virtually identical for each of the candidates, off by a point or two at most. It's about the electorate, not the candidates.

Gothmog

(145,242 posts)
25. I think that is from a Rassie poll
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:32 PM
Aug 2015

In 1992, 38% of the Perot vote was from Democrats and 38% was from republicans. I think that the ratios will be very different if Trump runs

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. You didn't mention the part where Trump said he was in favor of a single payer health care system
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:32 AM
Aug 2015

Probably because he never said that. Which puts him about 180 degrees in opposition to the ACA critics here on DU.

And "Trump on Foreign Affairs" sounds eerily similar to "Hillary Clinton on Foreign Affairs".

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
23. He did say it in 2000
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 10:22 AM
Aug 2015
"I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one," Trump wrote. "We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by health care expenses. We must not allow citizens with medical problems to go untreated because of financial problems or red tape."

When he turned to how the country might achieve universal coverage, Trump focused like a laser beam on a Canadian-style, single-payer plan. He said it would eliminate many billions of dollars of overhead.

"The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America," he wrote. "We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."

Ever the pragmatist, Trump noted change would not happen overnight.

"While we work out details of a new single-payer plan, there are a number of ways to make the health care system now in place work more efficiently," Trump wrote.

So, it’s fair to say that in 2000, Trump supported a Canadian-style health care plan.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/24/erick-erickson/conservative-columnist-trump-once-backed-single-pa/

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. Joe's slant is always something favorable to the Republicans...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:32 AM
Aug 2015

he's desperate to find something that isn't just poisonous to the rest of the country. So now Joe is saying Trump's gonna win the presidency for the repukes...at long last, a savior for the GOP...ha...

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
26. Trump on everything..
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:38 PM
Aug 2015

"Trump on everything: I don't have to follow the rules because I know more/better. "

I'm rich...I'm really rich!

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