Americans have forgotten what we did to North Korea:

[Are_grits_groceries]

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1950s, during the Korean War, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea than it had dropped in the entire Pacific theater during World War II. This carpet bombing, which included 32,000 tons of napalm, often deliberately targeted civilian as well as military targets, devastating the country far beyond what was necessary to fight the war. Whole cities were destroyed, with many thousands of innocent civilians killed, and many more left homeless and hungry.
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I didn't know this bombing fact. We sure set it up for the hard-liners to take over.
What a hot mess we have made in that area of the world(not to mention others).

[kelliekat44]

1. And we didn't honor our food commitments under the Clinton administration. The conservatives in tho

country and the willingness of the left to accommodate them for the sake of getting votes on pet issues has slowly brought us to the brink and the media is the prime culprit in dumbing down the electorate. They allow Trump to bark about China and Japan and Mexico and the media refuses to call him on his own dealings with these countries and how his deals have actually robbed this nation of jobs and manufacturing start ups.

[hatrack]

2. We killed at least two million civilians, either through firebombing cities or bombing dikes & dams

Either directly or (for the majority) indirectly, through starvation and disease.

Check out "Dark Sun" by Richard Rhodes, which is a history of the hydrogen bomb.

All the things that Nixon threatened to do in Vietnam - a.k.a. the November Option, which involved targeting water and rice irrigation systems, carpet bombing cities and flattening what little industrial capacity was there - we did in Korea.

The specific chapter is called "Lessons Of Limited War".

[malaise]

3. Most Americans don't have a clue about what their governments

and military has done to people and countries across our planet

[NobodyHere]

4. I remember that North Korea invaded the South

And that w/o UN intervention the whole peninsula would be under control of the Kim family.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

5. Any word on what North Korea did to the south?

Or continues to do North Korea, for that matter.

We did the same to Germany and its allies, as well as Japan. And, of course, Germans destroyed and enslave Europe. Ditto the Japanese in Asia, particularly China and Korea.

Here's a novel thought -- War sucks

[redgreenandblue]

8. Lol. Do you have any actual knowledge of the subject?

Your post reads like nothing more than knee-jerk nationalism.

[Historic NY]

6. I seem to remember the Chinese Communists getting into the action too...

nice hit piece but the US was always meant to be the bogeyman to be used by their dictators. The UN & US were at one point outgunned and undermanned, fighting the Chinese who teamed up with NK. Of course nothing in the article mentioned the treatment of the South by the North. All this began post WWII, again its was the US who trusted the Soviets, to do the right thing in taking the Japanese surrender above the 38th parallel, so much for that. Free elections supervised by the UN in 1947 which were supposed to reunite the country, devolved into civil war when the Soviets propped up Kim over Syngman Rhee. Just who invaded whom, the north did on June 25, 1950.


"American bombing, to be clear, did not transform North Korea from a nice country into a bad one; the seeds of the country's generations-long fascist rule had already taken root by the early 1950s, and indeed it is worth remembering that the North had launched the war in the first place. But that bombing did end up abetting, however unintentionally, the Kim family project of creating a paranoid, volatile, and oppressive bunker state."

[Igel]

10. That's the nastiest bit.

It's Japanese fascism. Helpfully provided by Joseph Stalin and supported my Mao Zedong.

Those two noted fascists from WWII, fighting the Communist regime in Germany and Italy, no doubt. Oddly, in spite of the fact that they support Japanese fascism, I could have sworn that Mao was fighting the Japanese for years. Even if Stalin just dipped his toe in the war for some ceremonial gains and ritualistic defeat of the victor in the 1905 war, plus bragging rights ("We're the real power that the Japanese feared, all the rest ... meh, small fry." Not an actual quote.)


Humorous in that the article takes great pains to point out how horrible the US was (weren't there others involved?) and the bombing is why the N. Koreans hate the US so much. Even if, well, they don't mention it and point to other things entirely. But really, the Voxsplaining goes, that's why the North really hates us or at least should hate us.

[brooklynite]

7. The hard-liners had already taken over...

...how do you think the war started?

Would you prefer that South Korea live in a Kim-Il-Sung paradise?

[redgreenandblue]

9. And that excuses war-crimes how?