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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:43 PM Aug 2015

Scoreboard - C-Span's Republican Forum

FYI - great format ! Really good questions although moderator leaned right. Like the way they just took one at a time and asked them a couple questions.

I listened to them with a complete open mind, like I was not affiliated with the Democrats, just to their tone and inspiration factor

Totally just my take

Exhibited some degree of intelligence/thoughtfulness
Santorum
Rand Paul
Chris Christie
Scott Walker

Totally boring, uninspiring, and negative
Bush
Pataki
Kasich


Zero Charisma - Very Tight-Assy
Jindal
Rubio

Seems like he is on drugs - amazing he is still in there
Carson

Just plain annoying
Fiorino

Totally Whacky
Cruz
Graham
Perry




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Scoreboard - C-Span's Republican Forum (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 OP
Thanks for doing that yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #1
the craziest two - as far as demeanor were Jindal - acted like a bumble bee - unbelievably Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #2
More impression during part 2 Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #3
Didn't see the debates, but I have to ask... was Trump there? Power Boy Aug 2015 #4
The big event is Thursday... Agschmid Aug 2015 #5
Even for the first Debates starred by Faux Nooz Power Boy Aug 2015 #9
don't know why Trump nor Huck there. Bet they soaked it all in - the format Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #6
Think Trump and Huckabee opted out. nt hay rick Aug 2015 #7
Well, both media guys, guess they realized no Repukes watch C-Span - too knowledge-y Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #8
Missed it. hay rick Aug 2015 #11
Trump chose not to go because he... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #10
Just finished watching tomm2thumbs Aug 2015 #12
HEY Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #15
Rick Perry needs a stronger prescription for his 'smart' glasses: they aren't working.... xocet Aug 2015 #13
I'll look for that ! sounds like a good work avoidance task. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #16
I only noticed it because someone had put it on Twitter. Good point about the indictment.... xocet Aug 2015 #23
"Soviet communism on its way out"? WTF? hatrack Aug 2015 #21
It was his crescendo...American glory and exceptionalism being reborn in the time of Reagan... xocet Aug 2015 #22
Thanks for taking the effort! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #14
this actually moved very fast compared to debate type format. And it was quite entertaining Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #17
On GMA just now they described it as being LiberalElite Aug 2015 #18
I didn't watch all of it malaise Aug 2015 #19
Good rankings Gothmog Aug 2015 #20
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. the craziest two - as far as demeanor were Jindal - acted like a bumble bee - unbelievably
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:52 PM
Aug 2015

hyper and Graham - who is just so 100% focused on ISIS and doom and gloom.

Wished everyone here had watched it. Very interesting study.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. More impression during part 2
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:05 AM
Aug 2015

Kasich - only one who showed some degree of heart and care about those in "the shadows"

Graham and Jindal batshit crazy

Christie most calm - most others frantically nervous

 

Power Boy

(13 posts)
9. Even for the first Debates starred by Faux Nooz
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:54 AM
Aug 2015

ought to be either cringing or entertaining as in "Where did they pull that from - their butler's ass?"

Your mileage may vary.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. don't know why Trump nor Huck there. Bet they soaked it all in - the format
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:19 AM
Aug 2015

having them each in the spotlight for a brief time - really laid them out there bare. Some were very nervous.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. Well, both media guys, guess they realized no Repukes watch C-Span - too knowledge-y
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:27 AM
Aug 2015

But, hope (not really), they took away what I did....with maybe slightly Kasich and Christie - NO ONE had an inspiring message whatsoever.

If I was a republican consultant, I would tell them to find some inspiring words, talk about bringing back manufacturing jobs, talk about anything but divisiveness and war and stopping millions from getting healthcare.


Biggest Issues Mentioned:

ISIS
Iran
Repeal ACA
Lower biz taxes and regulation

Surprised - not that much about illegal immigration


hay rick

(7,613 posts)
11. Missed it.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:18 AM
Aug 2015

I went to a fundraiser for a Democratic candidate running in a local "nonpartisan" race. The Republican brand tailored for their primary voters is truly repulsive. Saw a recent poll where the majority of Republicans agreed that all illegals should be expelled from the country. The Republicans are 100% invested in hate and fear. It's all they've got.

3catwoman3

(23,987 posts)
10. Trump chose not to go because he...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:05 AM
Aug 2015

...didn't like what the sponsoring newspaper said about him.

What a whiny, thin-skinned baby.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
12. Just finished watching
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:19 AM
Aug 2015
link to video of it - warning, 2 hours long

I liked the format, although the stage-crossing with announcement did seem a bit dating-game or beauty-contest-ish... was interesting to hear the answers but definitely you could see the moderator was manipulating the time of certain answers/people to favor some over others. I'm sure someone will do a chart showing who was given the least amount of time/most amount of time.

Flops:
Graham - nervous and fell on his face, couldn't talk, boogie-man tactics vs. inspiring
Jindal - swallowed 30 caffeine pills and lacked gravitas - would be good with stack of coloring books
Bush - totally soggy day-old bread - both his presence and answers - 100% lost this to everyone else
Rubio - inspiring talker, but too moderate for the GOP to allow through the process - needs water
Santorum - lost, just excited to be onstage - trying to recapture the thrill of yesteryear is not attractive
Christie - uninteresting, unmoving and unpresidential - the tri-fecta of 'no thanks' from the GOP
Paul - too off message - no emotional engagement - didn't seem to want to be involved and it showed
Pataki - yesterday's paper at the bottom of the birdcage, but would be good to share a cigar with, no?
Cruz - never answered questions, just liked to select speech #232.B and push 'play' - is there an off switch?
Perry - trying to be the 'Reagan' of the group, but failed to resonate - seemed to be holding back
Fiorina - unable to convincingly pull off the 'I can see her in the White House' test - sour
Walker - dry toast/cottage cheese/no flavor personality and doesn't feel presidential on any level - VP?
Carson - high? drunk? ambien? Sucked the nitrous oxide gas out of whipped cream cans before going on?
Kasich - forgettable, and very successfully at it - but at least had an ounce of compassion


Winner:
Trump, for not being paraded onstage like a cow at auction

_________

If someone forced me to pick one person who would be president and I had no other options but to select one or the world would come to an end, I'd have to say Kasich.








 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. HEY
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 07:03 AM
Aug 2015

Your post much funnier than mine...no fair.

Thanks for the link.

I liked what Kasich said about helping those in the shadows and what Christie said about those who are addicted to drugs and alcohol. I honestly don't remember ANY other statement that had any positive value at all.

I didn't notice time inequity. Seems like they could take as much time as they wanted to answer to me. It was funny how quickly they got up when finished though. So much better than the debate format where they have to be cut off.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
13. Rick Perry needs a stronger prescription for his 'smart' glasses: they aren't working....
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:12 AM
Aug 2015

In his summation - at about 01:33:35 - he, if I heard it correctly, made reference to the following:

"...Soviet con-nyu-mism (sic: rather lol) on its way out...."

http://www.c-span.org/video/?327157-1/2016-republican-candidates-voters-first-forum&live



It is interesting that no one mentions Perry's role in Cameron Todd Willingham's execution or calls Perry out for allowing the execution of an innocent man:




 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. I'll look for that ! sounds like a good work avoidance task.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 07:08 AM
Aug 2015

Yes, he still squints. Yes, no one mentioned his indictment either. There were no gotcha moments for anyone that I can remember

Think Graham, Perry, and Jindal should be closing their campaign offices today, for sure. Pataki too. I had never heard him speak much before - had no idea how crazy he was - had figured being from a blue state he would have been cooler.

Why does Christie couple "entitlements" and "debt service" ? other than cost

xocet

(3,871 posts)
23. I only noticed it because someone had put it on Twitter. Good point about the indictment....
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:23 PM
Aug 2015

I don't know much about what Christie's positions are, so I cannot comment on his linkage of those two items.

Thanks for posting the OP. It is an entertaining thread.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
22. It was his crescendo...American glory and exceptionalism being reborn in the time of Reagan...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:17 PM
Aug 2015

...coming forward until now....

He started his 'historical' summation with President Carter in 1979...WTF, indeed!

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
14. Thanks for taking the effort!
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:34 AM
Aug 2015

I appreciate it. I didn't watch but setting the DVR for the next one. If I can't fast forward when I get quesy, I'll never make it through.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. this actually moved very fast compared to debate type format. And it was quite entertaining
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 07:10 AM
Aug 2015

to see how batshit crazy some of them are.

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