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global1

(25,248 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:54 PM Aug 2015

I Didn't Watch MSNBC At All Today.....

I usually watch the Ed Show, Rachel and Lawrence. During the day I used to flip over to it just to pick up on some news. Today I didn't even do that and I'm not watching Rachel or Lawrence tonight either.

I've given up on MSNBC and checked out Al Jazerra today. I think that will be my go to news network. [I still wish they would change their name.]

I really hate to miss Rachel and Lawrence - but I don't know that I can trust either of them going forward, I'm thinking that they've been compromised by their bosses and that what we'll be hearing from them will be somewhat filtered or watered down. Both of them should quit on principle.

It's too bad because some good people are getting hurt by MSNBC/Comcast's decisions for programming. If MSNBC/Comcast thought their ratings sucked up to now - wait until they get their next reading after this revamping. They will really go into the toilet then.

The people that they left behind Mitchell, Scarborough, Toad, Luke, Brian, Tweety aren't worth listening to as we know that they are just mouth pieces for RSM (right stream media). You would have thought they would have found that out already on Meet the Press - that's one Sunday show I'll never watch again. Chuck Toad is a complete idiot and shouldn't even be on TV. He hides behind his goatee. What's he afraid of.

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I Didn't Watch MSNBC At All Today..... (Original Post) global1 Aug 2015 OP
Self fulfilling prophecy Rosco T. Aug 2015 #1
I wish Rachel and Lawrence would move to .. ananda Aug 2015 #16
Rachel and Chris Hayes's "coverage" of the Comcast Merger, Ed Snowden, and TPP is/was pathetic NOVA_Dem Aug 2015 #31
That's too bad. ananda Aug 2015 #33
Nor did I tavernier Aug 2015 #2
You didn't miss anything on Rachel. Cleita Aug 2015 #3
Whats wrong with that? Nt Logical Aug 2015 #6
Post 8 was meant for you. Cleita Aug 2015 #9
She's not a Republican and should be reporting on and interviewing if available Cleita Aug 2015 #8
She has become a big disappointment to me. nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #15
You're not missing much. bigwillq Aug 2015 #4
Rachel DID NOT cover the huge Sanders virtual rally AT ALL last week KeepItReal Aug 2015 #5
If you don't trust Rachel and Lawrence, I don't know who you will. n/t UTUSN Aug 2015 #7
Thom Hartmann and Amy Goodman. If you listen to Thom in the morning and his TV show Cleita Aug 2015 #14
There's a *big* difference between Tweety and Rachel!1 & not in a good way for Tweety!1 n/t UTUSN Aug 2015 #21
Oh, you thought I meant Chris Matthews. Cleita Aug 2015 #23
Oh, yeah. But to your previous post, I'm less intellectually driven (surprise, surprise) UTUSN Aug 2015 #34
UNREC brooklynite Aug 2015 #10
I completely agree , except on the part about... pkdu Aug 2015 #11
Time will tell Armstead Aug 2015 #20
ED's Ratings Very Well May Have Been The Time Slot They ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #27
Bottom line...you're saying they didn't want his voice to get out but they kept giving him air time brooklynite Aug 2015 #28
Don't Know WHY. They Canceled Him Once Before & When ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #30
EDIT: Eds Final Thoughts fredamae Aug 2015 #37
No, they didn't brooklynite Aug 2015 #38
Fox does well in the early afternoon because their viewers are mostly old retirees. But even Billo Erose999 Aug 2015 #40
All I see on MSNBC is ads for banks and oil companies, with a little bit of snarky news in between Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #12
Don't forget all the drug ads run by Big Pharma. Lots and lots Cleita Aug 2015 #13
More & More I Was Seeing About 5 Seconds Of ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #25
I didn't either, but my t.v. went to the curb 4 mos. ago. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #17
I have to watch Rachel, but that's about it. Vinca Aug 2015 #18
Rachel and O'Donnell will be gone soon Armstead Aug 2015 #19
Yep. I agree. Cleita Aug 2015 #22
MEEEEE TOOOOO! I Usually Watch (Listen) To FSTV ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #24
I started cutting back sometime ago. Turned it on a few minutes today and shut if off. I'm just RKP5637 Aug 2015 #26
Haven’t watched it in years and I don’t miss it one straw dorkzilla Aug 2015 #29
I have been watching Star Trek reruns! oldandhappy Aug 2015 #32
Day 5 for me...and I feel Great! fredamae Aug 2015 #35
Awful... now appearing is.. Mike Nelson Aug 2015 #36
I did the pro & con balance with them years ago olddots Aug 2015 #39

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
1. Self fulfilling prophecy
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:00 PM
Aug 2015

"If MSNBC/Comcast thought their ratings sucked up to now - wait until they get their next reading after this revamping. They will really go into the toilet then."

Including Rachel and Lawrence... two of the best voices we have.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
16. I wish Rachel and Lawrence would move to ..
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

.. Al Jazeera or BBC World News.

Those are the channels I watch right now.

NOVA_Dem

(620 posts)
31. Rachel and Chris Hayes's "coverage" of the Comcast Merger, Ed Snowden, and TPP is/was pathetic
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:44 PM
Aug 2015

Combine that with putting Ed in the cable news ghetto (late afternoon on the weekend) I knew I was done with MSNBC.

Their coverage of those 3 topics let me know that I couldn't trust them to cover issues pushed by the Obama administration or their Corporate overlord truthfully. I've never seen either of them be so weak as on those topics. If these issues were happening under Bush they would be HAMMERING BUSH every night.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
33. That's too bad.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:54 PM
Aug 2015

I haven't watched MSNBC in years... and I never looked back
or regretted it.

My Dad got sucked into the Fox propaganda machine after my
mom died, and that was so sad to see.

I hope I never have to see anything like that again. Fox really
draws people in, playing to their deepest hates and phobias and
giving them an aura of respectability or social street cred.

I don't think younger people are so susceptible to it, though.
At least, that's my hope.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
2. Nor did I
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:03 PM
Aug 2015

nor will I.

I'm sure they're not wringing their hands at my leaving, but that's not the point. They told Ed when they let him go that they were going in a different direction. So I picked up my satchel and jumped off the bus. I know the direction I want to go in and therefore have no interest in being unwillingly highjacked.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. She's not a Republican and should be reporting on and interviewing if available
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:27 PM
Aug 2015

Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley. The Republicans have been talked about endlessly on all news channels today ad nauseum. Ther is nothing new to say. None of the Republican candidates with the exception of two of them should be taken seriously in a sane world. Also, Congress was debating and voting on Planned Parenthood today. I would have liked her commentary on this and what else may develop from the vote. Yet there wasn't a mention. R

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. Thom Hartmann and Amy Goodman. If you listen to Thom in the morning and his TV show
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:47 AM
Aug 2015

in the evening and then Amy Goodman on Democracy Now!, you will be pretty well informed enough to go do your own research. You may get those gems on Free Speech TV. If your cable or satellite doesn't carry them you can stream on the internet. I'm hoping Chris and Rachel jump ship down the line and go back to their roots of delivering well informed uncensored news and analysis in the future. I'm almost certain when their contracts come up for renewal that they will have to sign up for the propaganda train or go away.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
23. Oh, you thought I meant Chris Matthews.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:55 PM
Aug 2015

I meant Chris Hayes, who used to write for The Nation before he got the gig at M$NBComcast.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
34. Oh, yeah. But to your previous post, I'm less intellectually driven (surprise, surprise)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:58 PM
Aug 2015

in what I watch, am more sixpack than wine, and even sort of prefer to be in that strata of what filters down to most people instead of a more rarefied few. Plus, since the '12 election I've tapered off of political shows, which I used to gobble. One time, when I rattled off summaries of all the Sunday yak shows, Bartcop said, "Are you the Rude Pundit, or what?" Not anymore.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
10. UNREC
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:30 PM
Aug 2015
"I really hate to miss Rachel and Lawrence - but I don't know that I can trust either of them going forward,"


You don't mention a specific thing they've said that you're concerned about; it seems that you've leapt to the conclusion that MSNBC -MUST- be putting the screws to them because they -MUST- have fired Ed for his comments. Never mind that they put him back into a weekday slot some years ago; never mind that they're apparently in talks to bring unrepentant liberal Keith Olbermann back; never mind Ed's ratings are the lowest on the network; it MUST be an attempt to silence liberal voices because OF COURSE Comcast/NBC is an evil corporation. You start with the conclusion, and then look for the evidence.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
27. ED's Ratings Very Well May Have Been The Time Slot They
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:27 PM
Aug 2015

gave him when he came back. If anyone recalls it was "Tweety's" first Showing of the same show that re-aired at 7:00 PM. There WAS a reason for that, mainly that the time slot is considered a bit of a "dead zone" because many people are coming home from work. Not sure about Al Sharpton, more people may have gotten home but that slot isn't the best time either.

Ed was very popular before they tanked him the first time. His ratings were good and there was a big push back from "we the people" to get him back. I don't really think his ratings were the main reason, but MSNBC DID know that time slot wasn't a very good time for anyone. I'd be willing to bet if he was on at a different time things would have been different.

JMHO

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
28. Bottom line...you're saying they didn't want his voice to get out but they kept giving him air time
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:30 PM
Aug 2015

Perhaps you want to think about that for a minute.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
30. Don't Know WHY. They Canceled Him Once Before & When
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:44 PM
Aug 2015

a concerted effort was made by people complaining, they brought him back. What doesn't make sense about that? He was very popular the first time around, as was KEITH until he stepped over the line one too many times!

And KEITH didn't want to come back, nor did Cenk Uger. Plus Dylan Rattigan who actually moved out to CA and had a few choice words to say about MSNBC. And then, Martin Bashir who apologized ON AIR for an issue that wasn't extremely controversial. I can't even remember the issue because I was so shocked they canceled him for it.

So, I can namer you THREE names who didn't want to come back, then you can add ED who didn't bother to do his last 2 shows.

So yeah, I AM saying they DIDN'T want to hear his point of view! You may have time to argue this point back and forth with me, but I don't. My AC is out and I have to get dinner ready, plus stating something ad infinitum just isn't "my style."

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
37. EDIT: Eds Final Thoughts
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

I Posted in Error...
It wasn't that he didn't bother...It seems (imo) M$NBC Sucker Punched him on Timing.
The explanation is in Podcast #244...I posted the 1st in error:

&feature=youtu.be

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
38. No, they didn't
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:13 PM
Aug 2015

They MOVED him...from 6 PM to 10 PM to 8 PM to the weekends and back to weekdays. That seems like a pretty strong effort to find SOMEPLACE where his show would work, as opposed to the simple solution -- just firing him.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
40. Fox does well in the early afternoon because their viewers are mostly old retirees. But even Billo
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:01 PM
Aug 2015

the clown, "the King of Cable News" gets trounced by 3rd run syndication of Big Bang Theory. Cable news is a dying medium.
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
12. All I see on MSNBC is ads for banks and oil companies, with a little bit of snarky news in between
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:23 PM
Aug 2015

I kind of like some of the hosts, the overall TV format is bleh.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
13. Don't forget all the drug ads run by Big Pharma. Lots and lots
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:37 AM
Aug 2015

of them. I started to keep track of them.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
25. More & More I Was Seeing About 5 Seconds Of
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:18 PM
Aug 2015

anyone saying "up next, then a given lead in subject" and another ad. The host had already said the subject was going to be covered at the beginning of the show, but then it was "up next" AD another "up next" AD then host comes back and you hear about the subject!

I've been timing the ads and sometimes at a hard break it's 4 minutes PLUS! Each show might have 30 minutes that covers subjects, if that.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
19. Rachel and O'Donnell will be gone soon
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:13 PM
Aug 2015

My guess is that every one of their hosts (and many regulat guests) who are assotiated as being too "Left" will be eitehr be given "roving correspondent" jobs to fill oput their contracts, or will just be shown the door.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
22. Yep. I agree.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:54 PM
Aug 2015

The handwriting is on the wall. Maybe there is still hope for Rachel, clever, smart fox that she is. She might outmaneuver them and keep her job. I don't have much hope for Chris Hayes or Lawrence O'Donnell.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
24. MEEEEE TOOOOO! I Usually Watch (Listen) To FSTV
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:12 PM
Aug 2015

until anyway, but did watch Al Jazerra AND FSTV. Between the two, and sometimes LINK there's e ought to listen to. I thought I would sneak a peek, but NOPE didn't do it! Also, even though C-Span irritates me at times with certain guests they're available too. Also PBS still has some good shows to watch even though they've sold out.

Yeah, sorry about the "few" left that are sort of worth listening to, mostly I'm sick of how MSNBC has found a way to rid themselves of what they must consider Riff-Raff. Keith Olbermann, Martin Bashir, Cenk Uger and others yet keep idiot like Joey Scar & The Toad! Oh and Tweety too! And so it goes!

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
26. I started cutting back sometime ago. Turned it on a few minutes today and shut if off. I'm just
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:26 PM
Aug 2015

tired of the SOS over and over again the the Comcast sponsorship.
Al Jazeera is far better IMO. And I refuse to support Comcast, plus, they are a crap cable company. I used to leave MSNBC on in the background, but no more.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
29. Haven’t watched it in years and I don’t miss it one straw
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:32 PM
Aug 2015

I used to click on Morning Joe every morning but would end up feeling angry all day. A sane woman does not have extended arguments with a television screen

I watch Sky News, BBC, Al Jazerra on my Roku. I have cable still but I don’t watch any American “news” anymore.

Jon Stewart and John Oliver are as close to news as I get.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
32. I have been watching Star Trek reruns!
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:46 PM
Aug 2015

And Ancient aliens. Yep, BBC is it for me. Can't get AJ but look it up on-line.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
35. Day 5 for me...and I feel Great!
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:58 PM
Aug 2015

I haven't really missed anything but meaningless garble about "he said-she said-they said" nonsense.
I too cannot trust those "progs" who Stayed at MSNBC...I'm done with all MSM....
My next step is to find a good entertainment package/source...and I'm cutting the cord on cable all together and when I do...I will cite Comcasts Ed Shultz Boot from MSM as the final straw.

Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
36. Awful... now appearing is..
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:07 PM
Aug 2015

Luke Junior.
MSNBC is gushing all over Trump, all the time. They ignore Bernie and are negative on Hillary.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
39. I did the pro & con balance with them years ago
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:22 PM
Aug 2015

the spiking in my blood pressure has ceased since giving it up .

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