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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 11:49 AM Aug 2015

Karl Marx was right......


[font size="3"]As soon as this process of transformation has sufficiently decomposed the old society from top to bottom, as soon as the labourers are turned into proletarians, their means of labour into capital, as soon as the capitalist mode of production stands on its own feet, then the further socialisation of labour and further transformation of the land and other means of production into socially exploited and, therefore, common means of production, as well as the further expropriation of private proprietors, takes a new form. That which is now to be expropriated is no longer the labourer working for himself, but the capitalist exploiting many labourers. This expropriation is accomplished by the action of the immanent laws of capitalistic production itself, by the centralisation of capital. One capitalist always kills many.[/font]

- from "Capital, Volume I"



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Karl Marx was right...... (Original Post) marmar Aug 2015 OP
We Never Seem To Learn ... cantbeserious Aug 2015 #1
Humans seem bound to do the SOS over and over again. Maybe it's simply endemic to the human species. RKP5637 Aug 2015 #2
My take on it is the rich and those who hold SamKnause Aug 2015 #4
Couldn't agree more, Sam. nt hifiguy Aug 2015 #17
The rich and those in power have learned all too well. SamKnause Aug 2015 #3
unfortunately, the Military and the Police know how their bread is buttered. 2banon Aug 2015 #7
yes Locrian Aug 2015 #9
Bernie is our rare opportunity to make the next step in our economic evolution. Gregorian Aug 2015 #5
/\_/\_This_/\_/\ Scuba Aug 2015 #12
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Aug 2015 #13
+ a zillion. hifiguy Aug 2015 #18
Control of the media, facilitates in control of the masses. nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #6
. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #8
I think you're attempting some humor.... marmar Aug 2015 #10
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there Major Nikon Aug 2015 #16
Little will change without two things, jomin41 Aug 2015 #11
"Apple" is the new opiate of the masses. yallerdawg Aug 2015 #14
"comfortably numb" navarth Aug 2015 #19
Yes... jimlup Aug 2015 #15
either a serf, or lucky. pansypoo53219 Aug 2015 #20
Thank you. K&R nt TBF Aug 2015 #21
Yep. johnp3907 Aug 2015 #22
Karl Marx was right on many things. truthseeker2007 Jul 2016 #23

SamKnause

(13,106 posts)
4. My take on it is the rich and those who hold
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:27 PM
Aug 2015

power seem bound to do the SOS over and over.

The masses rarely have any choices.

If the global militaries and global police sided with the

masses things would change.

The masses need to stop fighting the wars of the powerful

and rich.

The masses need to stop policing the poor and police the rich

and those in power.

Everything is ass backwards.

SamKnause

(13,106 posts)
3. The rich and those in power have learned all too well.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:23 PM
Aug 2015

The masses know exactly what is happening.

The global militaries and global police protect the rich and

those in power.

If the global militaries and the global police took the side of

the masses, things would change.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
7. unfortunately, the Military and the Police know how their bread is buttered.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:42 PM
Aug 2015

their very existence is completely dependant on the ruling class, and therefor their sole purpose for existing is to protect the ruling class.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
9. yes
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:06 PM
Aug 2015

They've know this for a long time. Most of the wars were fought to protect it.

The dual effect is that war protects capitalism, and feeds it by making profit off of it.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
5. Bernie is our rare opportunity to make the next step in our economic evolution.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:41 PM
Aug 2015

This is exactly what is at the heart of a multitude of problems existing in our societies today.

And all of the candidates but one are only going to promote and prolong our condition.

Once you see this, there is no other choice but to abandon our present situation.


It would be like discovering that you have volunteered to be an alcoholic, and now you know there is a better way, and not taking it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. + a zillion.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:06 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie's the last train out. There WILL be a violent revolution in 25-35 years if the corporatist parasites continue to hold sway.

jomin41

(559 posts)
11. Little will change without two things,
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:10 PM
Aug 2015

1. High percentage citizens voting (90%+)

2. Women occupying at least half of positions of power, influence, decision-making.

In my deservedly humble opinion.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
14. "Apple" is the new opiate of the masses.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:36 PM
Aug 2015

As long as we are all "comfortably numb" who wants a revolution?

Marx called it 'fetishism' and it is killing us.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
15. Yes...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:44 PM
Aug 2015

The only positive that I see is that since Marx's time a higher precentage of the population has become aware of this. As Chomsky says: "progress is slow, even glacial..."

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