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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:15 AM Jul 2015

Arne Duncan: $1.4 Trillion In Student Debt Isn't That Big Of A Deal

$1.4 Trillion In Student Debt Isn't That Big Of A Deal



The Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and other federal financial regulators are all worried that the rise in student debt risks slowing economic growth. Bankers worry it'll lead to a decline in other types of lending. Some policymakers are concerned it will hurt home sales, cause a decline in new small businesses and result in lower retirement savings.

Voters are concerned, too, which has led 2016 presidential aspirants to talk about student debt on the stump. Even Donald Trump claims he's worried.

But Arne Duncan, President Barack Obama's education secretary, thinks that's all overblown.

.....Outstanding student debt, which totals nearly $1.4 trillion, has climbed 86 percent since Duncan took office in January 2009, Federal Reserve data show. The figure stood at $730.7 billion three weeks before he took office, and that amount is expected to double by early next year, despite the Obama administration's successful efforts to increase the amount of grants available to students from low-income households.


The words of Barmak Nassirian, director of federal relations and policy analysis at the American Association of State Colleges and Universities:

"It strains credulity to assume that the last 18 months of this administration will accomplish that which the six and a half years prior failed to address or take notice of," Nassirian said. "Most of what they've done has been talk. I seriously doubt that much else will change."
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Arne Duncan: $1.4 Trillion In Student Debt Isn't That Big Of A Deal (Original Post) madfloridian Jul 2015 OP
I'm thinking Harvard Grad. mackerel Jul 2015 #1
Im thinking promotes the agenda of his boss nt msongs Jul 2015 #2
Me too. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #38
Are you referring to Duncan? It'd be interesting to know whether snagglepuss Jul 2015 #3
His wiki may give you a clue. merrily Jul 2015 #18
and/or University of Chicago Professor Dad merrily Jul 2015 #17
So was the guy that appointed him. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #42
I'm calling BULL SHIT on Arne Duncan. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #4
Yep I called it mackerel Jul 2015 #5
Grew up on the south side of Chicago 6chars Jul 2015 #9
I see he's the brains behind common core. LOL mackerel Jul 2015 #6
Tone deaf assclown. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #7
It's ridiculous. I am sorry for your son. He is not alone. There are so many good kids JDPriestly Jul 2015 #15
thanks AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #20
That's outrageous. It truly is... madfloridian Jul 2015 #28
is it just me or does this guy look like he has an IQ around room temperature ? olddots Jul 2015 #8
Well it says he went to have so yeah, not too bright, legacy school mackerel Jul 2015 #10
The whole system is nationalize the fed Jul 2015 #11
this^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t truedelphi Jul 2015 #12
Thanks. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to coin our money. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #14
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #36
For individuals, student debt influences when they marry, how many chidlren they have JDPriestly Jul 2015 #13
If graduates had many great-paying jobs to choose from, or were all "limousine liberals"... merrily Jul 2015 #16
I second that. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #32
Student debt angrychair Jul 2015 #19
One in a long line of disgusting disappointing appointments SamKnause Jul 2015 #21
What a POS he is. Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #22
Hey Arne davidpdx Jul 2015 #23
K&R for exposure. He sounds like a Republican. Period. nt stillwaiting Jul 2015 #24
Totally clueless man. More words from him. madfloridian Jul 2015 #25
Arne is duh. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #35
1,400 billion dollars. 1,400,000 piles of 1 million dollars each. RadiationTherapy Jul 2015 #26
How do I rec this more than once? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #27
"Isn't That Big of a Deal" fredamae Jul 2015 #29
Bingo. It's so 'not a big deal', you can't discharge in bankruptcy closeupready Jul 2015 #40
that's the next bubble to burst. nt Javaman Jul 2015 #30
Then it shouldn't be a problem to wipe it out. City Lights Jul 2015 #31
............ marmar Jul 2015 #33
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #34
Of course it's not a big deal to him. LWolf Jul 2015 #37
This is what out of touch looks like sub.theory Jul 2015 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #41

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
4. I'm calling BULL SHIT on Arne Duncan.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:17 AM
Jul 2015

$1.4 trillion in student is a BIG F-ING DEAL, because it is ruining the chances of our children and grandchildren to get ahead and have decent lives. They are starting off by being DEBT SLAVES and that is unconscionable.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
5. Yep I called it
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:20 AM
Jul 2015

Education: Harvard University (1987), University of Chicago Laboratory Schools, University of Chicago, Harvard College

6chars

(3,967 posts)
9. Grew up on the south side of Chicago
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:45 AM
Jul 2015

that can be pretty gritty, yo.

explanation: University of Chicago is in Hyde Park, which is a very well-to-do neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, surrounded by less affluent neighborhoods.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
7. Tone deaf assclown.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:23 AM
Jul 2015

My son makes $12 an hour, 30-hour week, and they want a total $6K payment a month on his student loans.

Goddamn it.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. It's ridiculous. I am sorry for your son. He is not alone. There are so many good kids
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 03:45 AM
Jul 2015

in his predicament.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
11. The whole system is
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:54 AM
Jul 2015

rotten to the core. Who or what gets the interest?

Outstanding student debt, which totals nearly $1.4 trillion, has climbed 86 percent since Duncan took office in January 2009, Federal Reserve data show.


At a time when the Leader of the Democratic Party is pulling out all stops to pass YET ANOTHER "FREE TRADE AGREEMENT". Students can borrow 3 hundred thousand dollars for an "education" but if there's nothing to manufacture what good is it? DEBT.

THIS IS A DISGRACE. Are the Boomers just going to leave it to the next generations to fix it?

Look around- everything is based on debt. Debt slaves. Usury is no longer prohibited (except in Muslim countries)

The US used to be able to do things besides bombing and invading other countries and putting people in debt. In ten years men went to the moon. Everything was possible. Now nothing good seems possible.

The progressive case for Nationalizing the Federal Reserve

The United States today finds itself in the midst of a crisis which exists on a multitude of different levels. From the establishment of a culture of constant warfare, increasing environmental degradation, and the devolution into an outright police state, the perils of the current system are easily visible to those with eyes to see.

Nowhere, however, is the crisis more visible than in the manifestations of the world economic depression.

From mass unemployment (estimated at approximately 25% when all factors are considered) and a growing national debt to a ballooning trade deficit and the loss of purchasing power of the dollar as well as decrepit and crumbling national infrastructure, the United States today faces a crisis of epic proportions.

Most of the blame for this economic calamity, of course, can be directly traced back to the treachery of private bankers, Wall Street, and the practice of usury combined the acts of the agents of these financiers in the halls of government at some point or other. Ever since the Federal Reserve was solidified as the perceived national bank of the United States, the most powerful nation on the face of the earth and, thus, its people, were placed under the rule and at the mercy of private bankers...
http://www.progressivegazette.com/2013/12/nationalize-federal-reserve.html


Why shouldn't the national currency be like a public utility? Oh that's right- public utilities are a thing of the past.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. Thanks. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to coin our money.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 03:44 AM
Jul 2015

Congress should at least control what goes on better if it doesn't take over the job.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. For individuals, student debt influences when they marry, how many chidlren they have
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 03:42 AM
Jul 2015

and what career choice they make.

If you owe a lot of money, you need to make a lot of money. The student debt crisis pushes graduates away from altruistic careers that bring lots of rewards to our society as a whole, careers like teaching, public interest law, public interest economics, non-profit business, small business, nursing, etc. and pushes them into working for big companies, big firms, for-profit corporations, and worst of all, still more people in the financial sector.

The student debt crisis is having all kinds of bad effects on our society.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. If graduates had many great-paying jobs to choose from, or were all "limousine liberals"...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 03:53 AM
Jul 2015
to madfloridian for tirelessly educating so many of us about Duncan, charter schools and the rest of the mess.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
19. Student debt
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:11 AM
Jul 2015

Will destroy our children's futures. I will never let my children get saddled with the lifetime of debt I will be paying till the day I die. I am faced with the prospect of trying to figure out how I am going to pay $900 a month when I'm 70 years old ( actual amount in my repayment schedule). My only consolation is I doubt I'll live that long or if I'm lucky I'll just die in a president Walker government debtor prison.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
25. Totally clueless man. More words from him.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:24 AM
Jul 2015
Duncan consistently emphasized low college completion rates as a bigger problem than student debt, and suggested that a renewed focus on college completion and holding institutions accountable for low rates will help reduce punishing student debt burdens.


He seems dense about the connections he's making there. Is he not aware that the drop out rate is often tied to the cost and the debt??

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
26. 1,400 billion dollars. 1,400,000 piles of 1 million dollars each.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:33 AM
Jul 2015

Imagine giving 1.4 million american families 1 million dollars each.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. How do I rec this more than once?
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:39 AM
Jul 2015

Education is one place where Obama's administration has actually managed to be WORSE than Bush's.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
29. "Isn't That Big of a Deal"
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:51 AM
Jul 2015

Ohhhhh, ok..then everyone is forgiven of their student debt, effective immediately?????


Thanks Arn!

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
40. Bingo. It's so 'not a big deal', you can't discharge in bankruptcy
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jul 2015

your student loans unless you meet some really NARROW set of conditions. Everyone else (which is probably like 95% of student loan debtors) will be saddled with these debts for the res of their lives.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
31. Then it shouldn't be a problem to wipe it out.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jul 2015

It's no big deal.

Get right on that, Arne. The students thank you in advance.

sub.theory

(652 posts)
39. This is what out of touch looks like
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:28 AM
Jul 2015

Good grief. Hey, Arne, all that debt is in fact a big deal to those that start adult life with cement shoes. Glad to hear you're in the privledged 1% that doesn't have to worry about such peasant matters, though.

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