General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsActive ignore vs. Passive ignore.
I have been tempted in my brief time here to actively ignore a few posters but I have refrained. Reading all of the bile in some recent threads I think it is time to reconsider. Perhaps an active ignore list can help. I can't find value in an echo chamber but I cannot find value in engaging cantankerous trolls that seem to exist only to argue without merit. That's not really arguing at all. How do you handle it?
I try not to mind people grinnin' in my face but good gravy some here are insufferable.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)people I would not want to know in real life, I do not want to know them here either
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)If i wouldn't chat with you in real life why bother in the ether. Good perspective! I think I'll apply it.
Response to Skittles (Reply #1)
1000words This message was self-deleted by its author.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)cannot even remember why the second one is there.
Before DU3, I had perhaps a dozen. I cannot even remember who they were any more. Whoever they were, I sorta opted to give them all second chances and have not been moved to ignore them again. Some, I am sure, have been tombstoned.
It used to be funny when I could see the ignored posters posts. I remember once seeing something like this
1. ignored
2. I cannot believe you said that
3. ignored
4. that's even worse
5. ignored
6. Are you serious?
7. ignored
8. give me a break
I wanted to tap the 2nd person on the shoulder and tell them "I have that person on ignore for a reason."
Then again, back when you could find out, I noticed that almost 50 star members had ME on ignore. And there are plenty of people who do NOT have me on ignore, but have made it pretty clear that they do not care one whit for me.
So it goes.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes INDEED
MH1
(17,600 posts)Those are the ones I don't ignore.
The complete assholes? I try to avoid them but once a certain threshold is passed, the ignore button gets a click.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)A few. I am going to take your and Skittles advice and see how it feels.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)but for some people DU might be the equivalent of free therapy. An electronic version of primal scream and a way to deal with the frustrations that they encounter.
I hope that this helps, and welcome to DU. Most of the posters I encounter here are polite and share my interest/fascination/obsession? with politics.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Everyone has their bad days, needs to vent etc. Thanks for the welcome.
Doesnt it seem some posters post only to deride though? It sure seems that way. It is these FEW i am thinking of ignoring actively. Passively it makes me angry to see it over and over. Cheers!
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)You can always reverse it later when things are calmer and the point of disagreement has been resolved one way or the other.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)I got a mini rage reading earlier today. That's what prompted this thread. Cheers!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But I do not know any specifics of the personal lives of any posters at DU. Some people will talk about personal issues, most, in my limited experience here, do not.
I was in a disagreement with some people recently and one commented in the thread that, regardless of our disagreements, the poster did notice that I was polite and refrained from personal attack. My response was that anger is such a destructive and corrosive emotion that I try to avoid it when possible.
I hope you have a good experience here. Posters generally seem to be very well informed. Even the ones with whom I disagree.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)You know it's a waste of time to write something complicated or subtle when the other poster is overwrought anyway.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)I don't use it heavily and most that I put on the list are gone. I check every now and then and they will be "Account status: Posting privileges revoked" My big complaint about the ignore feature is I think the ignore should be notified. I suspect one person of putting me on ignore. We both post in a certain group. I was regularly starting a regular OP that others in the group would post to but this one was suspiciously absent. That's how I figured that this person must be ignoring me so I asked another to start the thread and voila that person was posting again.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)To the top ignored posters. I haven't been here long but I got good money there would be.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I've always been that way.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)I respect your fortitude after all this time! I like the idea of just logging out to see what, if anything, I've missed.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)LEMME AT YOU!!!
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I have no one on ignore.
TacoD
(581 posts)johnp3907
(3,732 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Now i won't feel like I am missing something. Thanks!
Skittles
(153,169 posts)sometimes I forget and think, "OMG, DON'T I HAVE THAT ASSHOLE ON IGNORE?"
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)Most of all, I use it to avoid simple stupidity -- drunken fools, whacked-out conspiracy nuts ("BushCo caused the tsunami"), one-note wonders who post the same drivel over and over. . . Other people may choose what they perceive as the "high road" of tolerance and community, but I've no time for blithering foolishness and no interest in useless poppycock. Some will disagree but I figure they must have a surplus of life.
There are some posters whose every other utterance is imbecilic, and those who delight in being boorish with no regard for raising the level of conversation or thought. These too I choose to ignore. And it's not something I do lightly: before I click, I'm convinced these people have nothing to offer -- no insight, no new perspective, nothing to change either my attitude or thought. And though I perceive I have an open mind, that's no reason to let others use it as a sewer.
I also utilize ignore to remove trolls and other unsavory folk from my experience. Oh, I recognize they may be gone by morning, but how much more pleasant the evening is without them. I've never blocked anyone who intelligently debated me, but I'll not suffer fools gladly or madly.
If it makes people feel better about the DU "family" or some other such fantasy, you can occasionally clear your entire Ignore list. I do. Often, I find many of those I've shut off were soon after tombstoned, so I don't feel I missed anything.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)My problem may be that the ones on consideration for active ignore are long standing and prolific. We will see how she goes. Cheers!
GusBob
(7,286 posts)There is nothing anonymous intenet posters can say that will get to me
I also avoid posting harsh opinions myself
I do use hide thread for various reasons, repeat and copycat topics and threads that run on and on with repetitive replies and 2 poster flame wars
So yeah totally passive here
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Thanks for replying. I want to stay passive. I doubt I will but that's my intention.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)I do use trash forum though. I don't like primary season on DU. I never have. It gets needlessly ugly.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)You? Or do you read what they have to say? I find myself muttering certain posters names and making verbal assaults constantly. I thought I was better than that. At least I have yet to type those thoughts! I'm going to try and stay passive for the most part but I got a few going on my list for sure. Cheers!
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Skipping comment and all.
It depends. Some days very little bothers me. Those are good days.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Cheers!
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)the somewhat rational relatives, the strange relatives, the quirky, yet charming relatives, the quirky and annoying relatives, and the occasional asshole relatives.
Sure, you'll wish you belonged to a normal family from time to time, but who doesn't?
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Cheers!
G_j
(40,367 posts)I miss a lot of the drama that way, and things happen I don't find out about until later (bannings, etc..), but I'm OK with that.
G_j
(40,367 posts)whatever the drama of the moment, naturally, as peace & social justice activists, environmentalists, etc. ..at heart..
primary season is not much fun here. I support Bernie out here in the real world ..whatever that is.. but it's not worth much time arguing with people on the internet. DU is still one of the best places to find a depth in information and news. A sense of humor is essential.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It happens just often enough to keep me from ever using active ignore.
Keeping a sense of humor about this place and what goes on here is the best course for me these days.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)I hope that happens to me. I got two chucklenecks going on my list for sure but only two.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Many have me on ignore though. We used to be able to see how many had us on ignore, and I think there were over 20 people who had me on ignore. I never insult anyone, but I guess some of my posts are offensive or something.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)Don't try it ,I did and it was a hassle .
people ignore me so much that they place me on sub ignore.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)"You can lead a troll to blabber, but you can't make them think."
Generally, once it is clear they do not intend to engage honestly, usually indicated by their rhetorical stance as you note, I move on, anything you say will be miscontrued and used against you.
The honest conversations that go on here are the only thing that is interesting about it anyway.
But I admit it took me like ten years to get to the point where that is automatic and it does not bother me sometimes to let the babble stand there unrefuted, but then it speaks for itself, and attention is the coin of the realm on the internet, when you respond you reward them and allow them to miscontrue you again.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)I thought (and still do, in some ways) that it was good to see views other than my own, even when they're annoying.
Then, after a few encounters with posters (directly and indirectly) who were either intentionally provoking outrage or were just one of those sad people whose world revolves around obsessively posting their fixations online, I began using ignore sparingly.
I still only have a handful of people officially on ignore (many of them have long since been tombstoned). But the general tenor of DU lately has just made me want to disengage from most discussions. I still come here because it's always a great source of information. However, after over 10 years here, I'm kind of over the flame war thing and if I keep over some posters here I'm afraid my eyes are going to unscrew from their sockets and bounce around the keyboard.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)when I realized that I was not actually seeing DU as it was. I want to see what everyone is saying, not just those with whom I agree. Now, if I want to ignore someone, I just don't click on the thread. That seems to work pretty well.
For me, fine-tuning a discussion forum to eliminate seeing what I don't like makes the whole concept of discussion useless.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I finally started using it a few months ago. Now George Zimmerman, Sarah and Bristol Palin, and Donald Trump could ALL die tomorrow in a horrible plane crash, and I wouldn't have to read a single word about it on DU. And that's just for starters.
Auto-trash is the best thing that's ever happened to DU... at least until UNREC returns.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)I think I might have one person on ignore but in general I don't ignore people. Even the people I disagree with the majority of the time here post things occasionally that make me rethink things.
It's a message board after all. Why delete the messages?
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Sometimes I am just cranky or someone has pushed my buttons so much I am tempted to post a response that would either get hidden or get me instantly banned. When I see that happening, I delete my post and put the other person on my ignore list.
When I'm in a better mood I go through my ignore list and clean it out. Usually I take everyone off - sometimes the person that made me mad has been kicked off DU.
On the other hand there are a lot of threads that I just trash if I don't want to see them again. And there are a lot of days when I don't post anything, just add a "Rec" to an OP.
And to quote Emo Philips: "Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps."