Does anybody else fantasize about what the appropriate punishment should be for the MN dentist

[mnhtnbb]

who killed Cecil, the Lion?

I have never been an eye for an eye kind of person. But I have to admit that recently, some of
the things that people are doing--and thinking they are ok--just horrify me. I have known for years
that there are hunters who really get their jollies at killing magnificent animals, cutting off their heads,
and then displaying them on the walls of their homes. We lived next door to a guy like that in Lincoln, NE.
When he built a new house out in the country--and moved, giving the house next door to his daughter and
her family--we were invited to a house warming. I could not believe all the trophy animal heads--many from Africa-- on the guy's walls. It made me sick to my stomach and I had to have my husband take me home.

So, I've met this kind of person. Seen his home. This guy is a really sick person.

In my fantasy, this dentist is driven out on the veld, given his bow and arrow, and then he becomes the object
of the hunt. Or, maybe, one hopes there are some cannibals around?

Anybody else have some fantasies for how this guy should be treated?

[djean111]

1. I think it is horrible to hunt the lions. It is not even really "hunting". But I do not think

he knew it was Cecil. Unfortunately, it looks like this is one of the few ways to make money, for the guides.

Edited - I take it back, I think he knew damned right well it was a protected lion. Guides completely complicit.

[mnhtnbb]

3. I don't think he cared if it was Cecil. He just wanted to kill a magnificent lion.

But that is what is so wrong with the world if these killings are the only way for guides to make
money while the US and other countries spend billions of dollars every year maintaining nuclear arsenals.

We have become a world consumed with killing.

It makes me sick.

[magical thyme]

49. this ^^^ and when they discovered the radio collar, instead of owning up they tried to hide it

vile, despicable assholes, through and through.

[Beaverhausen]

44. He had to know they drew the lion out from the reserve

also, this isn't his first time getting caught doing something illegal while hunting.

[magical thyme]

50. ^^^ and this. he's killed a black bear in the "wrong" place and should have had his

license revoked for that, but you know, 2 sets of laws and all.

And he's also been caught and fined for fishing without a license.

And now, the coup de grace, it comes out that his malpractice insurance co. had to pay out $127K for sexual harassment of a former employee and patient, for inappropriate comments about and touching of breasts and buttocks.

creepy predator class pos.

[olddots]

2. I do but keep quiet about it

AMERICA is becoming what it used to make fun of .

[msongs]

4. quite likely his dental business is tanking. too bad for him lol nt

[mnhtnbb]

5. Yes, but he could go underground for a year or two. Change his name. Open another practice.

[CharlotteVale]

6. Cover him with gravy, throw him in a pit with a pack of hungry lions.

[mnhtnbb]

9. Coliseum, revisited, Rome 80 AD. Nice idea!

[Coventina]

7. I leave it in the hands of Karma. In Buddhism, there is a special hell for those who mistreat

animals.

That's where I fantasize that he will go when his time comes.....

[BillZBubb]

8. It would be great if no one went to his dental practice AND

because of that he was forced to live with his one true fan, Ted Nugent. After they get to know each other really well, they decide the other needs to die and it would be best if they hunted each other on Ted's ranch. Death match for the ultimate trophy!

Or the guy gets 5-10 years in a Zimbabwean prison...

[restorefreedom]

32. either works for me.

hard to know who to root for, though.....they are both such oxygen consumers

[Blue Owl]

10. Put him out by the saltlick

[mnhtnbb]

11. Oh, that's a good one.

[BlueJazz]

12. I'd have him tattooed across the forehead with "I murdered a peaceful Lion for the thrill of it"

[mnhtnbb]

18. Another good one!

I have thought, many times, that it might be helpful to bring back the stocks...the trouble is having them
fairly applied...for certain punishments.

How many of us wouldn't love to lob some tomatoes at Dick Cheney or George Bush?

[darkangel218]

19. Cecil is not his first kill

He has a history of killing beautiful exotic animals.

He's sicker than sick.

[Newsjock]

13. "White Bear" episode of Black Mirror comes to mind

Quite possibly the most disturbing (and amazing) 45 minutes of "mainstream" TV this decade:

Massive spoilers at the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Bear_(Black_Mirror)

Walter Palmer : Cecil :: Victoria Skillane : Jemima

[mnhtnbb]

15. Oh, come on. I'm curious about other people's uncensored imaginations.

[LanternWaste]

22. No more and no less than this, your opportunity to illustrate relevance.

" an opportunity for DU to show its class."

No more and no less than this, your opportunity to illustrate a petulant irrelevance. Or not...

[libodem]

16. Nope

And there is a psychological term, that is unconscious, when we hate what someone has done, yet advocate some sort of the same violent or criminal conduct, that we proclaimed to abhore be executed on another being.

I'll have to Google defense mechanisms I don't remember the name. It's not a good coping skill and if you do advocate violence towards the mighty hunter you might be on thin ice here.

[darkangel218]

17. Extradate him to Africa and let the local governments deal with him.

I bet it won't be pretty.

[LiberalAndProud]

21. He's charged with poaching.

Which, if I'm reading extraditable offenses correctly, may be one, but that would be argued in court assuming Zimbabwe moves to extradite.

If found guilty, he will face a $5000 fine. Not a significant deterrent, I would guess.

[darkangel218]

25. 5K where? Here in the US or in Zimbabwe?

[LiberalAndProud]

26. In Zimbabwe.

I should think lion poaching is very rare in the US.

http://www.krugerpark.co.za/krugerpark-times-e-3-stiffer-penalties-for-poaching-in-zimbabwe-25062.html

[darkangel218]

30. Damn...!

Thats all???? The asshole probably knew that's the worst can happen to him.

Fuck!!!!!!

[LiberalAndProud]

33. I think he knew. I think his guides knew.

Outside of bad publicity, this guy doesn't stand to lose much.

[darkangel218]

35. You're probably right.

Unfortunately

[mnhtnbb]

20. Maybe I'm just trying to lure Will Pitt back into the fray.

[NuclearDem]

23. Whatever the respective punishments for poaching are.

[restorefreedom]

24. i think the government of zimbabwe

will find the appropriate penalty

good riddance

[maxsolomon]

27. meh, doubt it.

take his passport. that'll solve most of his trophy hunting - it'll just leave bear, moose, elk, buffalo, cougars, bobcat, reindeer...

[restorefreedom]

29. i hope the move to extradite

because the $5000 fine isn't going to do shit. He paid over 50,000 for the pleasure of killing this poor creature. This needs to hit him where it hurts.

[Arugula Latte]

28. Pull out all his teeth -- without any anesthesia. One by one. Slowly.

That's the only one I can post.

[darkangel218]

34. I can't say what I really feel either. But I bet everyone feels the same, so no need to spell it

[mnhtnbb]

53. Ouch! Makes me laugh. But doesn't really seem like poetic justice

although it would involve a lot of pain.

[Arugula Latte]

58. Well, he's a dentist, so therefore the teeth thing, but, yeah ...

in reality I imagine doing much, much worse to this asshole.

[ZombieHorde]

36. No. I don't see the point of punishment, other than sadism.

I think the justice system should be used for protection, as opposed to punishment. Punishing him won't fix the harm, but removing his ability to poach, such as taking away his weapons and passport, will likely prevent future poaching. Of course he would view this as a punishment, since he is being harmed, but the goal is just to protect wildlife from his violent hobby.

Some people believe punishment makes other potential criminals less likely to commit crimes, and perhaps this is true in some cases, but the US locks up more people than any other country, and yet we still have tons and tons of crime.

[darkangel218]

37. In this case, it would be just revange.

And I'm completely fine with that.

[ZombieHorde]

39. I've wanted to hurt people who have hurt me or my loved ones before,

so I can sympathize with the desire for revenge. Sometimes violence seems very pleasurable. The poacher certainly loves violence.

[darkangel218]

40. I don't like/love violence.

But I'm so disgusted with trophy hunters. Hoping they will eventually get what's coming to them, is all I can feel.

[mnhtnbb]

54. I guess what I'm really looking for is poetic justice.

[CTyankee]

38. Public shaming. Maybe he can be driven from his dental practice from loss of patients.

If he were my dentist, I would never go to him again and I would tell everyone in my community about him. What a monster!

[NobodyHere]

41. Lot's of sadists on DU

[darkangel218]

42. Huh???

[jberryhill]

43. Put him to work on endangered animals' teeth

He has skills that could be put to good use:



...and perhaps he might learn something about the value of live animals.

[LiberalAndProud]

45. I like this.

In lieu of fine.

[darkangel218]

46. Are you kidding me?

I wouldn't trust him anywhere near ANY animals, let alone endangered ones! The guy is sick.

[mnhtnbb]

55. Now that's something I like.

I can't get over the fact this guy couldn't find anything better to do with $50 grand, plus his travel
expenses, than to hunt down and kill a magnificent lion. It must mean he has PLENTY of money
and it would only be right for him to have to volunteer his time and skills to preserve life
and health of other magnificent animals.

[Brother Buzz]

47. I'd put him on an airplane to Zimbabwe so he can clear his name (or not)

Zimbabwean officials: American man wanted in killing of Cecil the lion

(CNN)An American man is being sought in connection with a case that has drawn international attention -- the killing of Cecil the lion -- Zimbabwean officials said Tuesday.

The man suspected in Cecil's death is Walter James Palmer of Eden Prairie, Minnesota, according to Johnny Rodrigues, head of the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force.

Cecil, who was 13, was a prized lion in Zimbabwe's Hwange National Park, where visitors reportedly sighted him frequently. A video of the animal, regal, indifferent and sleepy-eyed, has been widely disseminated.

He was a participant in a study that Oxford University in Britain was conducting, and he had been outfitted with a GPS collar.

A police official in Zimbabwe said that two Zimbabweans had been arrested in the case and that police were looking for Palmer.

<more>

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/28/africa/zimbabwe-lion-killed/

[Warpy]

51. Oh, nothing more than what I've already survived, to be shared by all others of his ilk

including trophy hunters for money they'll never need to live on.

Poverty.

That's what I want for every self absorbed right winger on the planet.

[Brickbat]

52. Who has that kind of time?

[Gloria]

56. Yes...stuffed.

Eom

[TBF]

57. I dream of him being sent to Zimbabwe -

where they can do whatever the heck they want with him afaic.

http://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwe-2-appear-court-killing-cecil-lion-133544816.html;_ylt=A0LEVvJlI7hV4jIAcz4nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByMDgyYjJiBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

[IcyPeas]

59. life sentence of cleaning shit out of animal cages at the zoo.

[Initech]

60. I think we should just let him loose in.a lion cage.

Or the ending of Quantum of Solace, that would be fitting.