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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:57 PM Jul 2015

Windows 10 roll-out will break Internet traffic records

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2953514/microsoft-windows/windows-10-roll-out-will-break-internet-traffic-records.html

Microsoft will break Internet traffic records this week as it begins to distribute Windows 10, a content delivery expert said Monday.

"Windows 10 ... will easily be the largest day/week of traffic ever on the Internet," said Dan Rayburn, an analyst with Frost & Sullivan who also writes on his own StreamingMediaBlog.com, in a piece posted yesterday.

"Unless Windows 10 is a complete flop and people don't upgrade as quickly as Microsoft expects, Windows 10 is going to create some serious havoc with regards to the user experience," Rayburn contended. "Expect to see some download times in the days, not hours, especially if any other content owners happen to have larger-than-expected traffic at the same time.

"Quality of service for downloads could deteriorate really quickly and remain poor for days, if not longer," Rayburn concluded.


more at link

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Windows 10 roll-out will break Internet traffic records (Original Post) steve2470 Jul 2015 OP
Good to see lots of people being beta testers so I don't have to be. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #1
I have the final build on 8 pcs and tablets and love it! nt Logical Jul 2015 #13
Any driver incompatibilities? NobodyHere Jul 2015 #35
No, but real standard machines. Lenovos and MS surfaces. Nt Logical Jul 2015 #49
What? I have a Lenovo. Am I screwed in this? Armstead Jul 2015 #60
No, i said the lenovos worked fine. They are standard. Nt Logical Jul 2015 #61
stay to the right, and you'll be fine HFRN Jul 2015 #52
It's been Beta testing for months. Adrahil Jul 2015 #45
and why not, it is a free upgrade from windows 7 and windows 8 still_one Jul 2015 #2
I'll keep my 8 for a while. 840high Jul 2015 #6
I don't blame you. I like my windows 7 machines far better than my windows 8 machines. I assume still_one Jul 2015 #8
When my pc died I lost my 7. Liked it a lot. 840high Jul 2015 #18
I hear ya. Personally I think windows 7 was close to be a perfect OS. Hope 10 is still_one Jul 2015 #30
Agree malaise Jul 2015 #32
Did they simply skip 9 after 8 flopped? Is 10 simply a nice round number? leveymg Jul 2015 #3
they skipped 9, yes nt steve2470 Jul 2015 #5
You have until at least January 14, 2020 before they stop making sucurity fixes for Windows 7. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #9
That's one of the smarter things MS has done lately. Way smarter than buying Nokia. leveymg Jul 2015 #11
Big deal. There's still tons of XP machines out there working just fine. hobbit709 Jul 2015 #28
9 was an internal development.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #46
Well, if posting selfies to Facebook slows down... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #4
Upgrade from Vista Home Premium, never! NightWatcher Jul 2015 #7
There have been some really good Win OS TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #10
Lol, mac. Nt Logical Jul 2015 #14
Win7 is a heck of a lot more stable than XP. gvstn Jul 2015 #20
Agreed. 7 is superior to xp/vista, particularly in 64 bit flavor. beevul Jul 2015 #23
None of our aps for interfacing with various equipment would work on 64 bit TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #29
Thats semi-typical. beevul Jul 2015 #33
I left out Windows 2000 TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #40
I'm pretty sure MS gvstn Jul 2015 #42
Since I retired I don't know why I care about this stuff TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #48
I only tested 8 beta for a few weeks. Maybe same with 8.1. gvstn Jul 2015 #34
^^This^^ Jazzgirl Jul 2015 #63
You go, girl! MAC and Jazz can't get better than that. TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #64
I'll stick with 9. nt JEB Jul 2015 #12
Corrected... Atman Jul 2015 #15
I think they over-estimate the demand of Windows users for the latest version FLPanhandle Jul 2015 #16
Underestimating, because the price is right... FREE JCMach1 Jul 2015 #17
There's a little window on my pc reminding me to 840high Jul 2015 #19
Ownership of the latest technology doesn't confer status or prestige or identity. It's an appliance leveymg Jul 2015 #24
That is because they have the icon waiting to be used on the OS of Win7 and 8. Rex Jul 2015 #21
What's to think about? Egnever Jul 2015 #31
But before, all you had to do was replace the OS if it messed up. Rex Jul 2015 #36
Yes, you can just reinstall the OS. I'm not sure where you heard that you can't reinstall the OS DesMoinesDem Jul 2015 #44
Read it in a tech forum, one Win10 OS to one PC mac. Rex Jul 2015 #58
Partially true... Feron Jul 2015 #47
Will I have to replace or update all my applications, again? Octafish Jul 2015 #22
Replace, probably not steve2470 Jul 2015 #25
Thank you, steve2470! Octafish Jul 2015 #41
I'm surprised you're not on some flavor of Unix or Linux already. Might I suggest Ubuntu? Electric Monk Jul 2015 #53
Thank you! Octafish Jul 2015 #54
Not on any of my computers-all 6 of them. hobbit709 Jul 2015 #26
Maybe Egnever Jul 2015 #27
does it come with air bags ? olddots Jul 2015 #37
Only if you're big enough to not require a booster seat. randome Jul 2015 #43
You don't have to upgrade right away, do you? Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #38
no, you're good to go nt steve2470 Jul 2015 #39
Trying the new Windows beta SecularMotion Jul 2015 #50
we need an appreciation thread for the free of charge windows 10 nt HFRN Jul 2015 #51
does it come with seat belts ? olddots Jul 2015 #55
I am a Mac user, so Windows 10 does not excite me. RebelOne Jul 2015 #56
I already have the pre-load in place. MicaelS Jul 2015 #57
crash protection jokes are so yesterday afternoon olddots Jul 2015 #59
I started my upgrade on my Windows 7 machine 20 minutes ago. Jazzgirl Jul 2015 #62
I upgraded to 10 on my Windows 7 machine this morning meow2u3 Jul 2015 #65
what is the schedule? ericson00 Jul 2015 #66
Windows Insiders first (5 million or so of us) then... steve2470 Jul 2015 #67
my computer came with Windows 8 preinstalled ericson00 Jul 2015 #69
I don't know steve2470 Jul 2015 #70
Reading some of the reviews regarding the access to your data and files that are now "Shared" FLPanhandle Jul 2015 #68

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. Good to see lots of people being beta testers so I don't have to be.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:03 PM
Jul 2015

Are they also distributing it via bittorrent?

still_one

(92,219 posts)
8. I don't blame you. I like my windows 7 machines far better than my windows 8 machines. I assume
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jul 2015

windows 10 will be doing the windows 8 right this time, just like windows 7 was doing Vista right

However, from what I gather you only have a year for the free upgrade, after which it will cost

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. Did they simply skip 9 after 8 flopped? Is 10 simply a nice round number?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jul 2015

I'm perfectly happy with 7 - it's more stable than its predecessors, and it runs on my 3 year old laptop. If MS stops supporting 7 in the hope I'll upgrade hardware (again) to run data-hungry 10, that will be their next mistake and a step further toward joining IBM and HP as a defunct IT company.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
11. That's one of the smarter things MS has done lately. Way smarter than buying Nokia.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jul 2015

I suppose I will buy a new laptop by 2020.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
28. Big deal. There's still tons of XP machines out there working just fine.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jul 2015

IF nothing else, M$ can't screw things up with an update in the middle of you trying to do something.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
46. 9 was an internal development....
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

but they decided that they needed more than 9 offered after the luke-warm response to 8.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. Well, if posting selfies to Facebook slows down...
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jul 2015

who really cares?

Face it, 99% of traffic now is bullshit, and every time bandwidth goes up sites ad more and more nonsense to download.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
10. There have been some really good Win OS
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:19 PM
Jul 2015

95 was pretty good, 98 was more stable, XP was out of sight (yeah, I'm a child of the 60s) 7 was Ok, maybe 10 will be a winner. I'm staying with my MAC. It was the best upgrade I ever made.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
20. Win7 is a heck of a lot more stable than XP.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

I'll stand by that statement no matter how many diehard XP uses are out there. I had to reload or fix XP at least once every 6 months. My current 7 is probably 3 years old. As long as you have the proper hardware win7 is solid as a rock.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
23. Agreed. 7 is superior to xp/vista, particularly in 64 bit flavor.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jul 2015

My install is at least 3 years old as well.

My XP install never lasted as long, and never displayed the stability that 7 has.


As long as you have the proper hardware win7 is solid as a rock.


Again, agreed. On a strong machine, 7 is amazing.


I wouldn't touch 8 with a ten foot pole. So 'bulky' and non-intuitive.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
29. None of our aps for interfacing with various equipment would work on 64 bit
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jul 2015

We had difficulty getting some to work on 7. I had an XP machine that went 2 years without a reboot. Never had that with 7.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
33. Thats semi-typical.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jul 2015

Older stuff might play better with the rs-232.

That doesn't mean its better, that just means its more compatible.

In terms of raw gaming power, for example, or video editing, or high demand multitasking, xp isn't even in the same galaxy.


FWIW, I had better experiences with 98SE than I did with XP.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
40. I left out Windows 2000
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jul 2015

I think that MS gave up on businesses who want an OS that will be stable and do the jobs required. It is not all gaming and video editing there are loads of people who maintain and service highly technical equipment by interfacing with a PC. We have one Win95 machine to operate a digital cross connect matrix. If that box ever dies it will be bad. I know of some machine shops that have a similar situation with CNC (computer numerical control) metal machining tools that cost more then a software engineers annual salary that are using archaic systems because MicroSoft decided that new was better and did not care if your old stuff worked on it. Probably they were only thinking about "cheap" peripherals like printers and scanners et all. If people have to buy new printers will so what.

But who wants to replace a piece of equipment that does the job and the replacement cost is >$1,000,000, because of a new PC OS.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
42. I'm pretty sure MS
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jul 2015

Came up with a paid support plan for businesses that want to keep XP for that very reason. Your problem, with the 95 machine is a bigger one than most people realize. Lots of businesses large and small use old software that works fine on older machines but is either very costly to update or there are no updates available. Much of it written for 95/98 and never really ran well on XP.


I've noticed a lot of doctor's offices and supermarkets and libraries have finally switched over to Win7 but there are tons of people using expensive specialized software that needs an older machine and there aren't any being produced. I would think that some niche company could fill this void, producing a new machine with the older specifications. (You can find old machines but why go to the trouble of the transfer for something that is on its last legs. Motherboard components only last so long)

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
34. I only tested 8 beta for a few weeks. Maybe same with 8.1.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:11 PM
Jul 2015

I just found I constantly wanted to touch my screen to get where I wanted to go. I don't have a touch screen (desktop) so it was very annoying. I can't see actually using a touchscreen on a desktop so I don't think that will be an option.

The underlying engine is fast, so I can see why people think it is an improvement but I think I'm definitely going to stick with Win7 at least until the deadline to update. And that is the other thing that I don't like about Win10, I think MS is going to try to keep more control over how you use it, updates etc. and possibly add in a subscription charge eventually. Just reading between the lines of things I read about its features early on.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
16. I think they over-estimate the demand of Windows users for the latest version
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

Apple users tend to be more impatient for the latest version. Windows users are not known for upgrading quickly.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
19. There's a little window on my pc reminding me to
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jul 2015

get 10 - I'm ignoring it for the time being.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
24. Ownership of the latest technology doesn't confer status or prestige or identity. It's an appliance
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

not a lifestyle or a mass happening. Stop trying to market it to me as Woodstock.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. That is because they have the icon waiting to be used on the OS of Win7 and 8.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jul 2015

All you got to do is click and it will start downloading. BE WARNED...Win10 the OS is only good for THAT PC. That means you have to buy a new copy of Win10 if THAT PC breaks and can no longer be used!!!

Think about that...

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
31. What's to think about?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jul 2015

The vast majority of windows users do not transfer the OS from one machine to another. They buy a new machine with the OS already installed.

Of the people that do most are well aware of windows license limitations.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. But before, all you had to do was replace the OS if it messed up.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:20 PM
Jul 2015

Now what do you do if the OS messes up, but the hardware is fine? Will you be able to re-install the OS or maybe your PC hard drive died an early death at 1 year - new OS time and does that mean you get a new PC?

Most people that I deal with DON'T have the money for a new PC and want that one fixed. Telling them to throw away the entire PC is a bad business decision and MS seems to be only thinking about large corporations and not end users.

IMO.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
44. Yes, you can just reinstall the OS. I'm not sure where you heard that you can't reinstall the OS
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:01 PM
Jul 2015

but that is wrong.

Feron

(2,063 posts)
47. Partially true...
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jul 2015
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-upgrade-and-installation-frequently-asked-questions

It depends on what version of Windows 7/8 you are upgrading. If you bought a retail copy, then yes you can transfer to another computer.

If worse to to worst, you can always call Microsoft and tell them that your PC broke and they will help you.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. Will I have to replace or update all my applications, again?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jul 2015

It's gotten way past expensive. Is there a rebate form I can download to reimburse me for the hassle?

PS: Steve B., I love ya, man!

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
25. Replace, probably not
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jul 2015

Update, possibly.

Rebate form, you'd have to talk to Microsoft.

On the serious side, IF you update to Win10, you'd want to upgrade your video drivers and other drivers for printers, etc. Your older apps should probably run fine, even if you have to run them in Compatibility mode. Of course, you don't have to update at all. I just posted this in case DU runs weird tomorrow.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
41. Thank you, steve2470!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jul 2015

For some reason known but to Balmer, whenever there's a computer update, I see dollar signs in the rear-view mirror.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
27. Maybe
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jul 2015

Pretty sure any machine that has reserved the update has already been downloaded most if not all of the code needed for the upgrade. I don't think there will be a sudden huge demand for files like the op suggests.

That is why that icon has been there for months now for the upgrade to try to avoid exactly the scenario the author is predicting.

Guess we will find out soon.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
43. Only if you're big enough to not require a booster seat.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015

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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
57. I already have the pre-load in place.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:05 PM
Jul 2015

On two of my PCs. Interestingly enough one is 4.04GB, the other is 5.95GB.

Also, the file was originally created on July 10.

Look in the root of your C Drive. If you see $WINDOWS.~BT, and it 3GB or larger, you have the pre-load already downloaded. Note, that you may have to change your settings to "Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives" in the Folder Option in your Control Panel.

Jazzgirl

(3,744 posts)
62. I started my upgrade on my Windows 7 machine 20 minutes ago.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:35 PM
Jul 2015

It's already 89% complete. I'm shocked. I use my new Mac more than anything so if anything happens no problem. It'll be interesting to see how it looks.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
65. I upgraded to 10 on my Windows 7 machine this morning
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015

There are a few problems; one of them is that you can't activate it over the internet--since they didn't give me the product key! I also am a bit frustrated with Adobe Flash running slow.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
67. Windows Insiders first (5 million or so of us) then...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jul 2015

people with reservations that have valid licenses for Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1. The rollout will take weeks.

You can download an iso file but AFAIK you have to pay for the license key.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
69. my computer came with Windows 8 preinstalled
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:29 PM
Jul 2015

and I updated to 8.1 the day it came out. I pre-registered for 10 on that little thing near the clock MONTHS ago. Is there a regional rollout or something?

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
68. Reading some of the reviews regarding the access to your data and files that are now "Shared"
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jul 2015

Several articles indicate that Microsoft has buried some extremely intrusive waivers of privacy relating to your personal data in its 45 page EULA and privacy notice.

Just an FYI and may be a good reason why this upgrade is "free"

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