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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:14 PM Jul 2015

DOJ Head Says Sandra Bland's Death Epitomizes Police's Broken Relationship With Black Community

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/07/26/3684554/lynch-comments-on-sandra-bland/

Attorney General Loretta Lynch said Sandra Bland’s death while in police custody earlier this month taps into deep-seated fears within the black community: that interactions with law enforcement too frequently end fatally.

The Justice Department’s (DOJ) first African-American woman attorney general told Pierre Thomas in an ABC News interview Sunday that Bland’s death “highlights the concern of many in the black community that a routine stop for many members of the black community is not handled with the same professionalism and courtesy that other people may get from the police.”

...“We have a situation where many minority communities for so long have felt that law enforcement was coming in essentially to enforce laws against them, not to protect them.” Lynch said Sunday. “I do think that what has been a important part of the debate in Miss Bland’s death has been the discussions that we’ve seen from community members and police leaders alike…about the importance of training and deescalating incidents.”

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DOJ Head Says Sandra Bland's Death Epitomizes Police's Broken Relationship With Black Community (Original Post) BeyondGeography Jul 2015 OP
I would go further. Downwinder Jul 2015 #1
Yes indeed oberliner Jul 2015 #13
That would be more reality RobertEarl Jul 2015 #15
Oh that's special. Mumbo jumbo political crap libdem4life Jul 2015 #2
Lip service. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #3
Which bit are you referring to? Positrons Jul 2015 #4
I'm tired of the rehearsed responses. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #5
She didn't say there won't be an investigation BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #6
I'd have more confidence in Marilyn Mosby. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #8
I meant which bits shouldn't have been released that were... Positrons Jul 2015 #7
They released all kinds of personal shit about Sandra AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #9
I think most of that was a counter to the happy image that her family and friends... Positrons Jul 2015 #10
Justice served posthumously is bittersweet. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #11
WTF Her 'happy image' ????? Tommymac Jul 2015 #12
Both sides are putting out the version they believe to be most accurate... Positrons Jul 2015 #14
You just don't get it. This isn't about sides. This is about a life. And the taking of that life. Tommymac Jul 2015 #16
Outrageous. It is not enough that they kill you. Live and Learn Jul 2015 #19
This. Agree. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #24
And what the hell is she going to do to reign in the police? onecaliberal Jul 2015 #17
Great question. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #22
If dept of justice can't do anything, how in the hell onecaliberal Jul 2015 #23
Well, the stuff I said they can do, IS helpful to a point. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #26
I've been doing a tiny bit of digging on this and it does seem onecaliberal Jul 2015 #27
They can have additional impacts BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #25
These cops don't WANT a "relationship" with the black community.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #18
I don't think they are doing a very good job of that either, unless you mean the 1%. nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #20
kick Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #21
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. Yes indeed
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jul 2015

I think the quote in the article says it well. It's about enforcing laws against people rather than protecting them.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. That would be more reality
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:02 AM
Jul 2015

Nevertheless, this statement by the AG is pretty big.

Call it the first shot, if you will, in the battle we can all just pray is fully waged from the AG offices.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. Oh that's special. Mumbo jumbo political crap
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:28 PM
Jul 2015

What, two weeks later? Not too impressive or timely. Ugh. Here we go again.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
3. Lip service.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jul 2015

When they started trash talking Sandra by divulging really personal but irrelevant shit about her, they exposed themselves. Murderers. Now, what's the DOJ going to do about it?

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
5. I'm tired of the rehearsed responses.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jul 2015

And ad hoc juries empanelled to judge them. It's all bullshit and people keep dying.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
9. They released all kinds of personal shit about Sandra
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:20 PM
Jul 2015

THC in her system, signs of alleged cutting, records of an abortion, an alleged statement from her about having contemplated suicide before. And they released time-manipulated surveillance video. Somebody needs to ferret out the truth. All of it.

 

Positrons

(53 posts)
10. I think most of that was a counter to the happy image that her family and friends...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:32 PM
Jul 2015

... put out.

IOW, this tragedy is not as unlikely and out of the blue as it may seem from their point of view.

Who knows...

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
12. WTF Her 'happy image' ?????
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jul 2015

This ain't about who she was. It is about WHAT WAS DONE TO HER!!!!!!!!!!!!

That other shit is just that - shit to defame her and make the po-lice look good.

FUCK THAT.

 

Positrons

(53 posts)
14. Both sides are putting out the version they believe to be most accurate...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jul 2015

Govt and authorities - All the stuff you mentioned...

Family and friends - She had a new job and a sound mental state and no reason to take her own life

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
16. You just don't get it. This isn't about sides. This is about a life. And the taking of that life.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jul 2015

The system was responsible for Sandra Bland's death.

End.
of.
Story.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
19. Outrageous. It is not enough that they kill you.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:44 AM
Jul 2015

They have to assassinate your character afterwards. I don't know how these people can live with themselves.

 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
24. This. Agree.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:28 AM
Jul 2015

Do they see when they look at themselves in the mirror or do they just avoid mirrors their entire lives...ugh.

enough, they are gone from this world.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
22. Great question.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 01:33 AM
Jul 2015

As I understand it, the only thing DoJ can do is send FBI to monitor
the investigation and if they determine that someone's civil rights
have been violated, then the DoJ can bring a lawsuit on basis of that,
but it is a "very high bar" to ever win a case. DoJ can also -- as they
have where I live in Portland OR -- issue "findings" of systemic issues,
and require regular judicial review of an agreed upon 'settlement' with
the offending police dept.

And that's about it, as far as I know.. This came out though under the
leadership of Holder, not Loretta Lynch, so I guess we'll see if anything
more can/will be done.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
26. Well, the stuff I said they can do, IS helpful to a point.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jul 2015

and don't quote me on what DoJ can/can't do, it was just
an impression from reading about Eric Garner, Ferguson
and my experience in Portland.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
27. I've been doing a tiny bit of digging on this and it does seem
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

As though the Dept of justice can direct the FBI to investigate. Sounds like getting a conviction for civil rights violations is an impossible standard of proof. I see why BLM feels such despair.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
25. They can have additional impacts
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:53 AM
Jul 2015

The DOJ investigation in Ferguson led to the resignation of the chief of police and its findings were cited by the Brown family in their civil suit. Durbin among others has called for an investigation in this case. Hopefully, it happens. It needs to.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. These cops don't WANT a "relationship" with the black community....
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:08 AM
Jul 2015

They are kicking black people's asses to improve their relationship with the WHITE community.

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