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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Don't mouth off to cops, and you'll live!" cried the patriot.
It all depends on who's doing the mouthing.........http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/07/23/megyn-kelly-on-sandra-bland-case-even-if-you-kn/204571
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"Don't mouth off to cops, and you'll live!" cried the patriot. (Original Post)
kpete
Jul 2015
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Last I checked, mouthing off to cops wasn't a capital offense in the statutes.
Gormy Cuss
Jul 2015
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Gothmog
(145,435 posts)2. There is one set of rules for whites and one set for everyone else
Thanks so much
your post adds so much clarity
peace,
kp
napkinz
(17,199 posts)7. you're welcome kpete
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)4. The lesson is that we must ALL learn...
...obedience and submission. For our own good, don't you know.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)6. Last I checked, mouthing off to cops wasn't a capital offense in the statutes.
I've mouthed off to cops without being arrested, but then I'm white and female.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)8. A Lawyer Gave Us the Blunt Truth About Sandra Bland's Arrest
http://www.attn.com/stories/2498/sandra-bland-arrest-lawful
"In terms of professional conduct, but also in terms of putting your hands on somebody who does not want hands put on them. That is a crime. He does not have the right to put his hands on her. Because hes an officer, you have to go through the legal justification at every step of the process, at each action that takes place, and thats why it is important to break things down step by step.
If he saw a traffic violation, and he wanted to issue a citation or a warning, he had a right to do that. Beyond that, he had no right to escalate things, and he had no right to put his hands on her. And I think thats how we need to reorient the thinking. Officers putting their hands on citizens is something that, historically-- and because its mainly citizens of color who police put their hands on-- has been to a degree accepted by society as a whole. I think thats something we need to rethink as a society. To what point is it acceptable? And if its not acceptable, what do we do about it?
But here, I cant figure out what right he had at every point starting when he begins to tell her to put out her cigarette. Take a moment to imagine that is just another person at that point. Not a law enforcement officer, but just a man trying to order a woman to put out her cigarette. And when she wont submit to his authority, going into the car and attacking her."
"In terms of professional conduct, but also in terms of putting your hands on somebody who does not want hands put on them. That is a crime. He does not have the right to put his hands on her. Because hes an officer, you have to go through the legal justification at every step of the process, at each action that takes place, and thats why it is important to break things down step by step.
If he saw a traffic violation, and he wanted to issue a citation or a warning, he had a right to do that. Beyond that, he had no right to escalate things, and he had no right to put his hands on her. And I think thats how we need to reorient the thinking. Officers putting their hands on citizens is something that, historically-- and because its mainly citizens of color who police put their hands on-- has been to a degree accepted by society as a whole. I think thats something we need to rethink as a society. To what point is it acceptable? And if its not acceptable, what do we do about it?
But here, I cant figure out what right he had at every point starting when he begins to tell her to put out her cigarette. Take a moment to imagine that is just another person at that point. Not a law enforcement officer, but just a man trying to order a woman to put out her cigarette. And when she wont submit to his authority, going into the car and attacking her."
This is a good read from an attorney's point of view and speaking from his views on the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution.