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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:07 PM Jul 2015

Chris Matthews calls out Ted Cruz for surge in right-wing “support” for Bernie Sanders...

Chris Matthews calls out Ted Cruz for surge in right-wing “support” for Bernie Sanders: “I know what you’re up to”

"It's called trouble-making," he said

SCOTT ERIC KAUFMAN


On “Hardball” Thursday, Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz told host Chris Matthews that he is “in complete agreement” with fellow senator Bernie Sanders on a number of issues, including corporate welfare.

“Far too many Democrats — and I will readily admit far too many Republicans — are supporting hundreds of billions of dollars of loan guarantees to giant corporations at the expense of the taxpayers,” Cruz said. “I think people are fed up with that. They want someone who will stand with the working man and woman against the bipartisan corruption of Washington.”

Matthews sensed that Cruz’s support of Sanders originated from a place of deep dishonesty, and asked, “is that a strategy on the right, to build up Bernie Sanders?”

“I’ve said it for a long time,” Cruz replied, “I like and respect Bernie Sanders.”

“Yes,” Matthews said, “but you’re building him up. You just did it. You took an opportunity there to build him up. What is the strategy to build up Bernie Sanders from the right-wing perspective?”

Cruz replied that “Bernie admits he’s a socialist, we can at least have an honest debate” — suggesting that it’s impossible to have “an honest debate” with covert socialists like President Barack Obama or Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.

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Chris Matthews calls out Ted Cruz for surge in right-wing “support” for Bernie Sanders... (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
Yes, the GOP wants someone other than Hillary in the general election, anybody. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #1
And the way to get Democrats to support someone is have Ted Cruz praise them? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #2
This isnt the first time, Bill Krystal has been throwing out names and Rush has helped in the past. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #4
I remember lots of Republicans saying to vote for Hillary Clinton in the primaries in 2008. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #8
I remember blow hards like Rush pushing Obama, problem was the GOP could not beat Obama. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #9
Actually Limbaugh was pushing people to vote for Clinton in "Operation Chaos"... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #10
This was after the primaries started. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #12
you know what they say....be careful what you wish for virtualobserver Jul 2015 #3
Barack Obama is not running this time. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #5
Bernie could well generate MORE support - TBF Jul 2015 #7
+100 nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #11
It isnt appearing he is securing the support you claim. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #13
Have you looked at the surge in the polls? TBF Jul 2015 #14
I rely on reputable poll numbers and I have only seem one poll between Bernie and republicans, it is Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #15
Cites for any of this? nt TBF Jul 2015 #16
No, I do not have a link to the one poll I saw as a comparison on Bernie and republicans. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #18
Here ya go oberliner Jul 2015 #22
Reason #1 to Vote Bernie TBF Jul 2015 #17
This looks like the one poll I saw with any comparison of Bernie with repubicans, it does not look Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #19
Mathews is really incapable of seeing anything other than the primary race karynnj Jul 2015 #6
This is just further substantiation that the repubs want Bernie as a 2016 opponent. Paladin Jul 2015 #20
Matthews just cares about the horse race oberliner Jul 2015 #21

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
8. I remember lots of Republicans saying to vote for Hillary Clinton in the primaries in 2008.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jul 2015

They got Obama.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. I remember blow hards like Rush pushing Obama, problem was the GOP could not beat Obama.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jul 2015

Bill Krystal was pushing Elizabeth Warren this year. This isn't new, the GOP reads the polls also, Hillary polls better than all but one GOP. Most all of the GOP candidates polled better than Bernie un the one poll where the GOP was polled against Bernie.

TBF

(32,081 posts)
7. Bernie could well generate MORE support -
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jul 2015

he has crossover appeal and millennial support. So we can put the "Barack Obama only beat Hillary because he is the most charismatic man to walk the earth" meme to bed.

TBF

(32,081 posts)
14. Have you looked at the surge in the polls?
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 09:48 AM
Jul 2015

Here in Houston the Bernie Sanders event last weekend attracted over 5,000 mostly young people at the University of Houston. Granted this is an area that is heavily Hispanic and generally their support is going to Hillary. I see him gaining in the polls. Do you have evidence to show otherwise?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. I rely on reputable poll numbers and I have only seem one poll between Bernie and republicans, it is
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jul 2015

not good. Ron Paul had large numbers at his rallies but not enough to get the required delegates.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Here ya go
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jul 2015

Colorado: Bush vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Bush 43, Sanders 37 Bush +6
Colorado: Walker vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Walker 44, Sanders 36 Walker +8
Colorado: Rubio vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Rubio 46, Sanders 35 Rubio +11
Virginia: Bush vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Bush 46, Sanders 36 Bush +10
Virginia: Walker vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Walker 44, Sanders 36 Walker +8
Virginia: Rubio vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Rubio 44, Sanders 37 Rubio +7
Iowa: Bush vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Bush 42, Sanders 38 Bush +4
Iowa: Walker vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Walker 44, Sanders 36 Walker +8
Iowa: Rubio vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Rubio 43, Sanders 36 Rubio +7

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

TBF

(32,081 posts)
17. Reason #1 to Vote Bernie
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jul 2015

From yesterday's Huffington Post:

According to a July 22, 2015 Quinippiac University Poll, Hillary Clinton's once overwhelming lead in public opinion has been cut substantially, and it's still a long way to the February 1, 2016 Iowa Caucus. In states that will decide the 2016 presidential election, Quinippiac reports that "Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, runs as well as, or better than Clinton against Rubio, Bush and Walker." According to its latest poll, Quinippiac explains how Clinton's lead has eroded in swing states, while Sanders's surge has spread from Iowa and New Hampshire to other key regions:

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is behind or on the wrong side of a too-close-to-call result in matchups with three leading Republican contenders, U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in Colorado, Iowa and Virginia, according to a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released today...

In several matchups in Iowa and Colorado, another Democratic contender, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, runs as well as, or better than Clinton against Rubio, Bush and Walker...

More here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/reason-1-to-vote-bernie-sanders_b_7863524.html

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. This looks like the one poll I saw with any comparison of Bernie with repubicans, it does not look
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

great for Bernie even in the three states listed. The primaries will be run in 50 states. If you are relying on the article as the number 1 reason for voting for Bernie then even this poll is not running way ahead of Hillary in these three states. So, at best it is a toss up. Now if I look at the other states I am finding Hillary ahead by larger numbers and in more states so I conclude by using the reasoning of the article then Hillary would be the number 1 candidate to vote and support.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
6. Mathews is really incapable of seeing anything other than the primary race
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:25 PM
Jul 2015

What he should be questioning is Cruz's record on populist issues. He may be claiming a place that he did not really earn.

The fact is that when you look over ALL issues, a Republican will look like a Republican - and a Democrat will look like a Democrat. For instance, Cruz would NEVER agree with Bernie on income inequality or spending on poverty programs.

However, there are factions of both parties that are against big corporations. There are factions of both parties that support neo con foreign policy. There are factions of both parties that want the government less involved in people's lives.

What these comments of Cruz say is that there is a populist movement that is dominant at this moment in time. It is also reflected in HRC's economic speech that is far more populist than her positions in 2008 -- much less those she and Bill espoused in the 1990s.

Not everything is about HRC.

Paladin

(28,268 posts)
20. This is just further substantiation that the repubs want Bernie as a 2016 opponent.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jul 2015

It's obvious, from the amount of Hillary bashing/Bernie coddling that's going on, on conservative sites. Are we really going to do Nixon-McGovern '72, all over again?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. Matthews just cares about the horse race
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jul 2015

Very little discussion about actual issues when you are on with him.

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