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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:10 PM Jul 2015

It’s Time to Reconsider Barry Bonds for the Hall of Fame

Years ago, we posed a question about a question, wondering how the court of public opinion, along with the guardians of baseball, might have dealt with Barry Bonds had he answered affirmatively when a federal grand jury asked him in December 2003 about his use of performance-enhancing drugs.

What if Bonds, we asked, had said he had surrendered to steroid use because it had practically become an institutionalized necessity, the key to unlocking the door to statistical and lifestyle riches?

And that his involvement was influenced by nothing less sacred than a pursuit of the American Dream, all pumped up.

In 2006, Fay Vincent, the former baseball commissioner, told us: “We are a terrifically forgiving country, in part because we have such a low standard of morality. But I’ve thought about this question a lot, and I believe that people would have forgiven Barry Bonds.”



MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/sports/baseball/its-time-to-reconsider-barry-bonds-for-the-hall-of-fame.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

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It’s Time to Reconsider Barry Bonds for the Hall of Fame (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 OP
Um, nope. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
Not just no, HELL no tkmorris Jul 2015 #2
So should they toss all drug users out then? ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 #3
'They all did it' is not a very convincing argument. Dawgs Jul 2015 #8
no artislife Jul 2015 #4
His chances are jack and shit... London Lover Man Jul 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #6
Fuck that shit -- I could name a bunch who belong in the HOF before he does... Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #7
I don't think so madokie Jul 2015 #9

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. Um, nope.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jul 2015
What if Bonds, we asked, had said he had surrendered to steroid use because it had practically become an institutionalized necessity, the key to unlocking the door to statistical and lifestyle riches?


I'd still call him a cheater who did whatever he could to get rich, no different from other fraudsters.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
2. Not just no, HELL no
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jul 2015

Letting him in would do a tremendous disservice to all of those who got in without using drugs to do it, even more so to those who got close but missed out.

It's completely absurd to me that assholes like Bonds get away with a slap on the wrist for their crimes while someone like Pete Rose gets suspended for life, for GAMBLING. Really? Insanity.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
3. So should they toss all drug users out then?
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

Amphetamines were very prevalent in baseball so it is unlikely, in fact impossible, to think that Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Roberto Clemente or all the other greats did not take them.

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