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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:25 PM Jul 2015

It ain't over til it's over: America's wars drag on no matter what officials say

by Trevor Timm



In all three of the countries where the Obama administration declared US wars “over” in the past few years - Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya - the US military is expanding its presence or dropping bombs at an ever-increasing rate. And the government seems to be keeping the American public in the dark on the matter more than ever.

Pentagon leaders suggested this week that the US military wants to keep remaining 9,800 troops in Afghanistan from withdrawing in 2016, despite the fact that the Obama administration declared combat operations in the country “over” six months ago. The gradual extension of the Afghanistan War hasn’t been a secret to anyone who’s been paying close attention, but sadly it has happened far away from the pomp and circumstance of Obama’s now embarrassingly false State of the Union announcement that the Afghanistan War had ended.

Shortly after his January speech, the president signed a secret order that would keep the military fighting and killing in the region through 2015, then delayed any troop pull-out through 2016. Last month, the US was still dropping more than three bombs a day in Afghanistan. That’s a 260% increase over the month prior.

As the Council on Foreign Relation’s Micah Zenko remarked: “First it was al Qaeda, then the Taliban, now ISIS will be reason US military remains in Afghanistan.” There’s always going to be someone. What unnamed group will be holding our attention in 2020 when we still have troops fighting and dying there for nebulous reasons?

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/america-war-iraq-libya-afghanistan-endless

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Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
1. Erect Bogeyman, wave flag, declare we need protection, give more money to the MIC.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jul 2015

Protection = as in Racket

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. You just nailed it.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:41 PM
Jul 2015

US has to keep terrorizing ME people such that, anyone who suggests
cutting the MIC's obscenely humungus budget can be attacked and
shamed as a 'terrorist sympathizer', and of course to insure a steady
supply or pissed-off new terrorists, i.e. family & friends of ME people
unjustly murdered by US drones & military. cha-ching!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. I could have funded all of our retirement plans if I had invested in the Defense Industry
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jul 2015

Sigh....
It's hell to have a conscience.

 

Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
4. As the Cons love to say, "hey we're still in Germany too!"
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

as if one wrong justifies a thousand others . . .

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
5. But we aren't droning Germans
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jul 2015

Or South Koreans, or folks in other places other than the middle east and north Africa (to my knowledge). And the Germans aren't shooting back. Or setting off IED's.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
7. BS article. Obviously the writer is nostalgic for the worst days of the Bush admin.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jul 2015

We are not in a boots-on-the-ground war in any of those places. Western forces--along with everyone else, actually--are doing the minimum necessary to keep the beheaders from getting even more power and from going to western countries to let off bombs or whatever. I don't have a big problem with that. Does the writer even understand that all sides are now fighting ISIS? Again, BS article

jalan48

(13,884 posts)
8. "There's plenty of money to be made by supplying the Army with tools of the trade." C.J. McDonald
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jul 2015

Seems like things haven't changed much over the years. Somebody's always out to get us so we have fight lots of wars. That whole 'foreign entanglements' stuff we were warned about is off the table.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. Only if we want to "contain" Russia and Iran.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:06 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe we need to rethink the need for that policy.

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