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from Der Spiegel:
SPIEGEL: Mr. Assange, WikiLeaks is back -- releasing documents proving United States surveillance of the French government, publishing Saudi diplomatic cables and posting evidence of the massive surveillance of the German government by US secret services. What are the reasons for this comeback?
Assange: Yes, WikiLeaks has been publishing a lot of material in the last few months. We have been publishing right through, but sometimes it has been material which does not concern the West and the Western media -- documents about Syria, for example. But you have to consider that there was, and still is, a conflict with the United States government which started in earnest in 2010 after we began publishing a variety of classified US documents.
SPIEGEL: What did this mean for you and for WikiLeaks?
Assange: The result was a series of legal cases, blockades, PR attacks and so on. With a banking blockade, WikiLeaks had been cut off from more than 90 percent of its finances. The blockade happened in a completely extrajudicial manner. We took legal measures against the blockade and we have been victorious in the courts, so people can send us donations again.
SPIEGEL: What difficulties did you have to overcome?
Assange: There had been attacks on our technical infrastructure. And our staff had to take a 40 percent pay cut, but we have been able to keep things together without having to fire anybody, which I am quite proud of. We became a bit like Cuba, working out ways around this blockade. Various groups like Germany's Wau Holland Foundation collected donations for us during the blockade. .................(more)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-interview-with-wikileaks-head-julian-assange-a-1044399.html
Octafish
(55,745 posts)WikiLeaks has exposed many members of the US government for what they are -- in the pockets of fraudsters, warmongers and banksters.
Wikileaks: CIA's Brennan on 'witch hunt' when Hastings was killed
By Ralph Lopez
Digital Journal, Dec 26, 2014 in World
A 2010 email released by Wikileaks from a top-level CIA contractor asserts that CIA Director John Brennan, the subject of a story by now deceased journalist Michael Hastings, was on a "witch hunt" against "investigative journalists" perceived as hostile.
Hastings, a reporter for the Rolling Stone who ruffled many feathers in his career, was killed in an unusual high-speed car accident in which the vehicle exploded on impact with a tree, and perhaps before. Hastings' wife confirmed to San Diego 6 News Television, soon after the uncharacteristic high-speed automobile crash, that Hastings' next "big story," as he called it, was to be on Brennan.
The email, written by Stratfor President Fred Burton and reported by San Diego 6, reads:
Brennan is behind the witch hunts of investigative journalists learning information from inside the beltway sources.
Note -- There is specific tasker from the WH to go after anyone printing materials negative to the Obama agenda (oh my.) Even the FBI is shocked. The Wonder Boys must be in meltdown mode...
The story on Brennan was never published.
Stratfor was once called "The Shadow CIA" by Barron's. In 2012 WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas-based company.
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/wikileaks-cia-s-brennan-on-witch-hunt-when-hastings-was-killed/article/421913
Most people in CIA and all across the secret US government agencies are good people. It's just when they use their positions of power to enrich themselves and their chums and make wars without end for profits without cease that they cross a line called integrity.
And asshats with emoticons wonder why DU matters. It's where we can share ideas, you know, like we used to when this was a Democracy.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Octafish
(55,745 posts)In a democracy we would know, wouldn't we?
Do you think a government should kill its own citizens without due process?
Well it's happening in the USA.
Do you have that problem in Canada?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I asked you what you think.
The fact you're asking "Do you think a government should kill its own citizens without due process?" leads me to believe that's what you think happened with Michael Hastings. Otherwise, why ask that particular question?
Sid
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Demand all you want, SidDithers of DU. That's typical. I said I don't know.
As to what I think, I'd tell you if I wanted to. It could have been CIA or DIA or FBI or some other secret agency. There's more than enough to go on to ask about them. For instance, did you ever hear about Lt. Cmdr. William Bruce Pitzer?
Seeing the Unspeakable:
Lt. Cmdr. William Bruce Pitzer
The following excerpts of Jim Douglass JFK and the Unspeakable - Why He Died and Why It Matters examine the visual record of President Kennedys head wounds on the evening of November 22 as captured by William Bruce Pitzer, head of the Audio-Visual Department of the Naval Medical School in Bethesda, Maryland, and his subsequent murder in 1966. In the books Introduction Douglass identifies the power each of us manifests through the denial we have exercised regarding the political assassinations during the 1960s in the United States.
EXCERPT...
In the first week of August 1965, Colonel Clarence W. Patten, commanding officer of the 6th Special Forces Group, summoned then-captain Dan Marvin to an office in Fort Bragg headquarters. Marvin says Colonel Patten told him to meet a Company man in an area adjacent to headquarters.[604]
Marvin has described this meeting, in the shade of some nearby pine trees, with a slender man of about 510:
Dressed casually in short sleeves, light slacks and sunglasses appropriate for the August heat, he flashed his ID and took me aside. Would I terminate a man who was preparing to give states secrets to the enemya traitor in the making?[605]
Marvin, already trained as an assassin, said he would. He assumed his target would be in Southeast Asia, where he was on orders to go in December 1965.[606]
Marvin asked the CIA man who the traitor was.
I was told, Marvin said, he was a Navy officera Lieutenant Commander William Bruce Pitzer. The agent told me that Pitzer worked at Bethesda Naval Hospital. He said nothing of a link with the JFK autopsy and I just assumed that Pitzer was one of those sorry types that went wrong and was going to sell secrets to our enemy. The job had to be done at Bethesda before the man retired from the Navy.[607]
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http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unspeakable/LtCmdrPitzer.html
In a democracy, this is the kind of information that citizens would know.
Why does it bother you when I bring these things up?
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)But, they don't want you to know that.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Citizen! Ignore what your own brain tells you! Ronald Reagan is good. Iraq has WMDs. Journalists investigating secret government are traitors...
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Other than that, you are correct.
MICHAEL HASTINGS' DANGEROUS MIND: JOURNALISTIC STAR WAS LOVED, FEARED AND HAUNTED
BY GENE MADDAUS
LA Weekly, AUGUST 22, 2013
EXCERPT...
One night in June, he came to Thigpen's apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo. He said he was afraid to drive his own car. She declined, telling him her car was having mechanical problems.
"He was scared, and he wanted to leave town," she says.
The next day, around 11:15 a.m., she got a call from her landlord, who told her Hastings had died early that morning. His car had crashed into a palm tree at 75 mph and exploded in a ball of fire.
"I burst into tears," Thigpen says. "I couldn't believe it had happened again."
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http://www.laweekly.com/news/michael-hastings-dangerous-mind-journalistic-star-was-loved-feared-and-haunted-2614816
I don't know what happened. How you can say you do know what happened may show you haven't read up enough on the story.
hack89
(39,171 posts)and that he had been showing signs of mental distress for a while. There is no evidence that his car was tampered with or that the accident scene was anomalous in any way. He was driving way too fast and lost control.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)that think he was assassinated by the CIA.
Sid
Octafish
(55,745 posts)By Dave Lindorff
June 27, 2013 WhoWhatWhy.org
Would you be shocked to learn that the FBI apparently knew that some organization, perhaps even a law enforcement agency or private security outfit, had contingency plans to assassinate peaceful protestors in a major American city and did nothing to intervene?
Would you be surprised to learn that this intelligence comes not from a shadowy whistle-blower but from the FBI itself specifically, from a document obtained from Houston FBI office last December, as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by the Washington, DC-based Partnership for Civil Justice Fund?
To repeat: this comes from the FBI itself. The question, then, is: What did the FBI do about it?
The Plot
Remember the Occupy Movement? The peaceful crowds that camped out in the center of a number of cities in the fall of 2011, calling for some recognition by local, state and federal authorities that our democratic system was out of whack, controlled by corporate interests, and in need of immediate repair?
That movement swept the US beginning in mid-September 2011. When, in early October, the movement came to Houston, Texas, law enforcement officials and the citys banking and oil industry executives freaked out perhaps even more so than they did in some other cities. The push-back took the form of violent assaults by police on Occupy activists, federal and local surveillance of people seen as organizers, infiltration by police provocateursand, as crazy as it sounds, some kind of plot to assassinate the leaders of this non-violent and leaderless movement.
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http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/06/27/fbi-document-deleted-plots-to-kill-occupy-leaders-if-deemed-necessary/
Secret Police. Secret Spying. Secret Laws. Secret Detentions. Secret Executions...Everyone but SidDithers of DU might see a pattern.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Using one tin-foiler to support the arguments of other tin-foilers doesn't exactly bolster their credibility.
Lindorff thinks the Boston bombing was a false-flag carried out by the CIA.
http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/1727
But, of course, octafish of DU thinks he's credible.
Sid
Octafish
(55,745 posts)So when you don't like what someone writes, you smear them, right, SidDithers of DU?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)can't seem to see that it's pretty clearly a threat assessment of people targeting OWS, not a plan to attack OWS.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)The CT is strong in this thread.
"Michael Hastings" is basically code for 'the black helicopters are coming to get you'.
Would be sad if it wasn't so fucking hilarious.
Sid
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Show where I posted anything that is not backed by fact. I've asked you for years, SidDithers of DU. But you never do.
elias49
(4,259 posts)A shill is a shill is a shill.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]
elias49
(4,259 posts)Birds of a feather...
Rex
(65,616 posts)Aww did you get a sadz at seeing the truth about you and your little group of concern trolls?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...especially when they put up an argument backed by facts and analysis. That's a great way to learn new things.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I LOVE how in 2015, everyone at this site knows this and laughs at them and not with them anymore.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)That must be where they get their news, as they don't seem to actually read what's posted on DU.
Otherwise, they might know war is big business. It's an insider's game. It's why we have so much secret government.
[font size="5"]WikiLeaks Stratfor Dump Exposes Continued Secret Government Warmongering[/font size]
The last remaining enormous wads of cash in the Treasury are to be had for purchasing today's modern military industrial intel complex.
There's more than a trillion to be grabbed -- just for the Lockheed-Martin F-35.
Now keeping tabs on us -- people interested in using some of the nation's treasure for more peaceful purposes -- are for-hire spies. How do I know this? Julian Assange and Anonymous:
WikiLeaks' Stratfor Dump Lifts Lid on Intelligence-Industrial Complex
WikiLeaks' latest release, of hacked emails from Stratfor, shines light on the murky world of private intelligence-gathering
by Pratap Chatterjee
Published on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 by The Guardian/UK
What price bad intelligence? Some 5m internal emails from Stratfor, an Austin, Texas-based company that brands itself as a "global intelligence" provider, were recently obtained by Anonymous, the hacker collective, and are being released in batches by WikiLeaks, the whistleblowing website, starting Monday.
The most striking revelation from the latest disclosure is not simply the military-industrial complex that conspires to spy on citizens, activists and trouble-causers, but the extremely low quality of the information available to the highest bidder. Clients of the company include Dow Chemical, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon, as well as US government agencies like the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Marines.
SNIP...
Assange notes that Stratfor is also seeking to profit directly from this information by partnering in an apparent hedge-fund venture with Shea Morenz, a former Goldman Sachs managing director. He points to an August 2011 document, marked "DO NOT SHARE OR DISCUSS", from Stratfor CEO George Friedman, which says:
"What StratCap will do is use our Stratfor's intelligence and analysis to trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like."
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http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/02/28-10?print
If it weren't for Anonymous and WikiLeaks, we probably wouldn't know about any of that.
It's no joke. It's no unimportant story. It's no boring history. Run by insiders, the secret government is key to making the system run on behalf of the few -- the 1-percent of 1-percent. Central to that is intelligence -- economically, politically and military useful information.
Which brings up the nation's purported free press, the only business mentioned by name in the entire United States Constitution, and how the organizations therein have miserably failed to feature prominently the sundry and myriad ways the insiders on Wall Street and their toadies in Washington do the work for Them.
The problem is systemic. The corruption is systemic.
Because it involves oversight of secret organizations -- the Pentagon, Homeland Security, CIA, etc -- Congress and the Administration often have no clue, let alone oversight, to what is happening because the corruption is marked "Top Secret."
Secret government also means We the People can't do our job as citizens, which is to hold them accountable and find the ones responsible in order to vote the crooks out and, it is hoped, the honest ones in.
With no citizen oversight, anything goes. And it doesn't stop.
Remember this fine fellow, US Navy fighter ace Randy "Duke" Cunningham?
Later a member of the United States Congress, he used his position to feather his nest, Big Time.
In his political career, Cunningham was a member of the Appropriations and Intelligence committees, and chaired the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Human Intelligence Analysis and Counterintelligence during the 109th Congress. He was considered a leading Republican expert on national security issues.
Currently, he's in USP Tuscon or another fine facility where he gets three squares, medical and dental.
He's due for release in a year or so. He'll be able to pick up his pension.
"The Duke Cunningham Act, also known as the Federal Pension Forfeiture Act, was introduced by U.S. Senator John F. Kerry in 2006. The bill would have denied pension benefits to any members of Congress convicted of bribery, conspiracy or perjury. The bill died in committee. (Source: The Press Enterprise)
Duke wasn't alone. He really was just one snake in a long line of snakes. Remember Dusty Foggo, Number 3 at CIA and close associate of CIA Director and former Congressman Porter Goss? Swells sitting atop the peak of political and military secrecy and power.
Unfortunately, when it comes to modern governance, no oversight means means the insiders are getting away with murder, and warmongering and treason and all the power that they bring. Appointed pretzeldent George W Bush on Valentine's Day 2007 put it in words: "Money trumps peace."
Secret government warmongering and war profiteering are systemic. Secret government is rotten to the core. What's more, in a democracy that once really was land of the free and home of the brave, secret government poses the greatest threat to true national security. I am most grateful that you grok that and are willing to stand up and say so, Rex.
Rex
(65,616 posts)machine and/or what Free Republic is having for lunch that day? Yeah I think by now everyone noticed that too.
By now if people still believe they live in a society of moral leaders that have their best interest at heart...well broham...I would say it is already far to late for them.
You keep trying and I salute you for it, but IMO they ain't worth the time or effort.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)For exposing the mass murdering warmongers for what they are, the Army enlistee is in jail practically for ever.
The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making
Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.
Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis
Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy as in true democracy places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society locally and globally.
From the late 19th century on, the threats to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.
SNIP...
The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the public and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.
The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and experts armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape Americas democratic propaganda throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.
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http://truth-out.org/news/item/15784-the-propaganda-system-that-has-helped-create-a-permanent-overclass-is-over-a-century-in-the-making
For some reason, the Truth ticks off some people. Guess they have a deep seated passion for telling us what to think.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)And not just blindly accept what other people say about them?!
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]
Octafish
(55,745 posts)So other people can read what it said, instead of getting only your take on it:
And a second FBI document, referring to the first:
" I)nterested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire."
jeff47
(26,549 posts)means "The FBI is planning to kill leaders via sniper fire."
Uh-huh.
It's pretty clear that the redacted portions are referring to individuals or groups. Government entities would be identified by commonly-used abbreviations. Like "Squad 10/FIG/CSCC" in the second memo. That doesn't fit with the size of the redacted blocks.
Also, an assassination plan is not going to be classified at SECRET, and that's the highest level classification in those documents. SECRET allows very wide distribution within the government, which would make it far too likely to leak. If there was an assassination plan, it would be TS/SCI.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thanks for the straw man. Among the things I'd like to know:
Why does the FBI deal with such people?
Who are the FBI talking with?
What is in the redacted parts?
I think I have that right, seeing how I'm a taxpayer, right?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Because part of their job is to investigate crimes. Especially ones that take place across state lines. The memos appear to reference people doing things in at least New York and Texas. That would bring in FBI jurisdiction.
From the context, it would appear to be informants or other entities reporting a potential crime.
From the context, it appears to be the names of the informants and the targets of the investigation.
Well, let's pretend this is actually the FBI investigating a right-wing hate group that was planning to assassinate OWS leaders. What do you think such a group would do to informants that called the FBI on this plan? Is your right to know who those people are greater than what will happen to them, and the effect it would have on other potential informants?
Now, let's pretend this is actually an FBI assassination plot. Why are the redacted boxes so large for groups that would be identified by abbreviations? Why do they use phrases that do not imply certainty? For example, "____ reported...". If you're doing the shooting, it isn't "reported". You wouldn't use that qualifier.
And a SECRET clearance is pretty easy to get, and there are a lot of them. Why would an assassination plot be something accessible by around a hundred thousand people? That's begging for someone to leak it, and the government is not that stupid.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)"Let's pretend" is what you wrote.
Why do you continue to insist I wrote something I didn't, jeff47?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)So other people can read what it said, instead of getting only your take on it:
Now, what, specifically, is being misinterpreted by me?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)You didn't write that?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Nice Tag Team, BTW. Don't forget to re-set your computer.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)That's you.
As is the standard tinfoil nonsense about me and jeff47 being the same person. I know you're used to an echo chamber, but believe it or not, more than one person can be in disagreement with you!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Whatever you say.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)One big indication of groupthink is inability to answer questions that raise problems with the groupthink claims.
Btw, you seem to have not tried to answer my questions about your interpretation of these memos...
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Here's what I think the FBI is capable of doing:
J. Edgar Hoover obstructed Justice in regards to the assassination of President Kennedy.
Special Agent Don Adams of the FBI deserved to be seen and heard by billions. The guy was the real deal, a brave agent who stepped forward. Among his assassination-connected work, FBI Special Agent Don Adams interviewed racist Joseph Adams Milteer, a guy an FBI informant had taped detailing a pre-Dallas plot in Miami.
He wrote a book on the experience:
http://adamsjfk.com/?page_id=30
Why Milteer matters:
Joseph Adams Milteer, the guy Adams was sent to interview, had outlined what would happen in Dallas before it happened. For some reason, Mr. Hoover "let him go."
Then, there's the Hosty note:
FBI Special Agent James HOSTY destroyed evidence: a ''threatening'' note from Oswald.
A couple of weeks before the assassination, Hosty paid a visit to Marina Oswald's residence at the home of Ruth Paine. Hosty was looking for Lee Harvey Oswald, who was not home. Oswald later found out about the visit and stopped by the Dallas FBI office and dropped off a note addressed to Hosty that threatened to "blow up the FBI building" in the words of the secretary who received the note in an unsealed envelope and read it.
Hosty and the FBI never admitted the note's existence until 1975 when the HSCA looked investigated the matter. Hosty said the note was not a threat and, therefore, not material to the case. Investigators believe Dallas SAC Gordon Shanklin ordered the note destroyed on direct orders from FBI Director J Edgar Hoover, a couple of hours after Oswald's own assassination while in police custody.
The note was never mentioned to the Warren Commission.
Destroying evidence is obstruction of justice.
Then, there's the evidence of various threats against President Kennedy that Hoover ignored. Author and former NYT reporter Edwin Black wrote about the Chicago Plot, the same M.O. as Dallas, ambush, high-power rifles, high-rise, and one patsy by the name of Thomas Arthur Vallee, a USMC veteran from a U-2 base in Japan. The plot was broken up by the Secret Service in Chicago. Not that they wanted to, they sort of had to when the local cops got a call from a landlady with the guns, passports, maps and "parade route" in Highlighter still on the bed.
Very important read in PDF:
http://www.thechicagoplot.com/The%20Chicago%20Plot.pdf
You are right, jeff47. "GroupThink" is not the best way of phrasing it. I was asked one thing and now I have to answer for another. So, "Tag Team" is a better term.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Nope, two people challenged your interpretation of two memos you posted. Both people had similar questions. You keep refusing to answer those questions. And now you're bringing up J Edgar Hoover instead of answering them.
If the memos are so clear and obvious, why the need to avoid answering questions?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)I said you were right, I should have chosen a better phrase: Tag Team.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Hell, that's not even in Dave Lindorff's piece.
Referring to the subject of their investigation, not themselves.
I mean, come on, think Octafish. FOIA or no FOIA, what on earth would lead you to believe the FBI would release any documents even remotely implicating themselves in such a plot? That the FBI wouldn't have simply shredded or incinerated these documents and then played dumb about their existence?
Absolutely nowhere in those documents is a plot by the FBI to kill OWS leaders. There's a threat assessment about someone planning it--and this may shock you, but it's not hard for rightwing militia nuts who view OWS as a communist uprising to get guns, even suppressed sniper rifles, in Texas.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Which Lindorff linked.
I'd ask why play dumb, but then...
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)You're deliberately misreading it.
There is no plot by the FBI to kill OWS leaders indicated in that memo. Basic reading comprehension would tell you that.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)''Sniper attacks in Houston, if deemed necessary."
It's right there in the FBI memo.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Come on, you're not even trying anymore.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Are the blank parts familiar territory to you?
randome
(34,845 posts)He seems to go out of his way to make it appear as if he is still directing the show.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)It's that if the documents get released, then the enemies of Julian Assan--er, of Wikileaks will go after Julian As--er, Wikileaks!
So we can't release them. Security reasons. Have to protect us from our enemies. But trust us, we have them!
jeff47
(26,549 posts)then suddenly got very quiet about them.
And it's not like Russia has a history with polonium poisoning or anything.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)We're still waiting on several "bombshells" about Bank of America and plenty of Western institutions and governments, but seem to now be being held as some "insurance policy" against the US government doing something to Assange.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They're happy to release US government documents. Other countries/groups? Not so much.
Thanks Marmar.
And Octafish for your diligence.
And Sid for finding a voice, though misguided.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Which reminds me I should translate some more of the Saudi cables. There are so many.
navarth
(5,927 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Although we all know that will never happen, lol
MattSh
(3,714 posts)Everyone else's house must be checked out first. Maybe, then maybe, USA secrets can be examined? Do I have that correct?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Internet censor, I've got my doubts on how clearly he's able to see things...
And nothing justified printing all that personal/legal/family/health info from the Sony hack...
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
Rex
(65,616 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)BIG K&R!!!
Did you see the thread where Saxby Chambliss says Snwoden must be hung in the public square without a trial, "as soon as we get our hands on him"?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026991287
Crickets on that one because there all deliciously here (and they hate the fact that Snowden was proven correct to have run rather than stick around for "justice" .