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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:28 AM Jul 2015

Daily Kos - Sandra Bland Video Loops, Not Real

Exposition: This is the video tape released by Texas DPS on their YouTube channel. At about 32:00 in the video, the office is the middle of his justification for his actions and his version of the events in a one way conversation.

While the audio is never broken, the cars on Texas Highway 290, one of my favorite in Texas, magically appear and disappear in a tragic loop. That is what this is about.

Ghost cars on Highway 290 or the DPS better have a better story.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/22/1404463/-Sandra-Bland-Video-Boss-Hogg-BS
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Daily Kos - Sandra Bland Video Loops, Not Real (Original Post) SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP
Please read. Important find. PADemD Jul 2015 #1
Black Twitter feeds were all over this almost as soon as the video was released. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #2
The are talking ohheckyeah Jul 2015 #3
Wow, just checked it! Helen Borg Jul 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author markpkessinger Jul 2015 #5
very interesting-- could be they added in extra audio to make her speech Fast Walker 52 Jul 2015 #6
I wonder fredamae Jul 2015 #7
I don't know what the case is here, but one thing to keep in mind Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #8
I agree madville Jul 2015 #10
It isn't just a single instance of looping . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #12
Even if we accept that dashcam videos can be jumpy and glitchy..... HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2015 #15
+1! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #17
So how can we trust the jailhouse video ecstatic Jul 2015 #9
How can you really trust any video or audio madville Jul 2015 #14
We can't. The police are not trustworthy. The FBI is not trustworthy. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #18
Totally.... Helen Borg Jul 2015 #19
Reminds me of the stuff Putin releases if its that obviously fake. 7962 Jul 2015 #11
the SAME cars going round and round. IntereSTINK. n/t Triana Jul 2015 #13
Wow, what a lousy doctoring job. CanonRay Jul 2015 #16

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Black Twitter feeds were all over this almost as soon as the video was released.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:46 AM
Jul 2015

I have to say, I wish I'd taken up using Twitter a long time ago. There are a lot of voices out there I would never hear otherwise.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
4. Wow, just checked it!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jul 2015

Totally edited after 32:00. There are cuts and it looks like the same car loop is copied over and over. It's the same car over and over and lots of sudden disappearances! A likely explanation is that the cop recorded a second version of the story and the audio track was pasted on top of the edited video. But the strange thing about this is that I cannot imagine there being anything of interest going on in the video at that time. So, why not just insert a modified audio segment and keep the video intact?... Really odd, but this video is bogus!

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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
6. very interesting-- could be they added in extra audio to make her speech
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:32 AM
Jul 2015

exaggerated. I listened to the video last night (didn't watch it closely) and couldn't believe how many times she called the cop a pussy and so forth. I bet they exaggerated her taunting to make it seem worse than it was.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
7. I wonder
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:33 AM
Jul 2015

if an expert in Forensics could interpret the activity(?) in the reflection of the hood of the police car?
It seems you can see motion -

Can any of the witnesses driving by can be found via license plates? Also, is it just me or is there a same small white car that seems to keep driving by or is that a result of possible tampering of police video evidence?

This whole thing Stinks to high heaven.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
8. I don't know what the case is here, but one thing to keep in mind
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:47 AM
Jul 2015

Well, two actually...

First, some newer dash cam systems have lots of fall backs and built in buffering that can store a set amount of video and add it back in. For example some buffer a minute or 30 seconds and put that back into the memory with a marker any time the lights or siren are manipulated.

Then that section of video is retired longer in memory.

For example, let's say a system can record 100 hours of video. After 100 hours it erases old data for new.

However, it can be set to retain video from traffic stops longer- for a set amount or until downloaded. That way useless driving around footage is only stored a few days but any video that can be needed as evidence is stored longer.

The system is usually triggered by the activation of lights or sirens, and will have a set amount of state buffered as well- it will then store the buffered data along with everything that happens while the lights are on plus a programmed period after as higher priority video to retain. This is done so that, for example, with a DUI arrest the video will show what the officer was seeing the car head do before they turned the blue lights on.

If they were turning blue lights on and off even momentarily it could cause it to go back and dump that buffered video again.

My last dash cam was like that with a 2 minute buffer- when looking at footage you would see when I turned on the blue lights it would drop back 2 minutes and start again from that point if we downloaded it before the "routine" video had been overwritten.

Second- dash cam systems are notoriously jumpy anyway. They go through a ton of abuse living in the trunk of a cop car constantly jostled and in high heat and deep cold.

madville

(7,412 posts)
10. I agree
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:20 AM
Jul 2015

I used to work for an electronics company that contracted with law enforcement agencies. I worked on in-car camera systems ranging from VHS recorders in the trunk of the car to realtime DVD recording, Hard drives, flash memory, etc, etc.

To say these systems are glitchy would be an understatement. I've seen all kinds of crazy loops and errors with these systems. This sort of thing actually really pisses off the agencies because sometimes it can put their case against a suspect into jeopardy if a key piece of video or audio is absent.

Like you said, these things are shut off, turned on, bounced around, banged into, etc, etc nonstop. I wouldn't be surprised if these weird video buffer/loops were created by a record direct to DVD system, I've seen it before.

I'm pretty confident the FBI will be looking into it and would easily detect any intentional editing. Editing the tow truck driver and traffic scenes doesn't make much sense to begin with anyway.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
12. It isn't just a single instance of looping . . .
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:22 AM
Jul 2015

At 32:37, a white car drives into the left side of the frame, then promptly disappears in the middle of the road. Seconds later, the same car drives back into the frame and subsequently turns left. This footage is later looped several times.

A different white car also drives into the left side of the frame and turns left from 32:49 to 32:59. The previous white car again briefly enters the frame at 33:04, and once more at 33:06, yet it suddenly disappears both times. When these cuts are made in the footage, the lights on top of the truck in the center of the frame also abruptly cut out.

At 33:08, the exact same footage from 32:37 is repeated, followed by the same second white car at 33:17.

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
15. Even if we accept that dashcam videos can be jumpy and glitchy.....
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:50 AM
Jul 2015

......the audio isn't.

They don't track.
They are extensively altered.
Someone has tampered with evidence.


madville

(7,412 posts)
14. How can you really trust any video or audio
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:28 AM
Jul 2015

No matter what there will always be doubt.

In the end, I seriously doubt the jailers or person managing the video at the DPS post have the technical expertise to edit either video in a way that the FBI will not be able to detect. If there was foul play I would be confident that they can identify it.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
18. We can't. The police are not trustworthy. The FBI is not trustworthy.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jul 2015

The entire criminal justice system has been compromised.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
19. Totally....
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jul 2015

But I bet that some digital forensic folks could spot whether there is a discontinuity in the video by using noise statistics, stuff like that...

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. Reminds me of the stuff Putin releases if its that obviously fake.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:21 AM
Jul 2015

They do stuff like that all the time

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