Three perfectly good substitutes for the phrase "corporate whore" -- for people who would prefer

[pnwmom]

not to offend many (but admittedly not all) progressive women and men.

Corporate lackey.

Corporate flunky.

Corporate toady.



Any others you would suggest?

ON EDIT:

Several others have suggested the phrase "corporate shill." Another good choice. As is "sellout."

[marym625]

1. I like shill

[pnwmom]

5. Thank you! That's another great one that doesn't target either gender. n/t

[CTyankee]

2. I personally like "toady." It seems so nasty...and I like nasty when describing the GOP...

[Maeve]

12. Yeah, it has an extra 'slime' factor

I know toads aren't slimy but they can leave a mess on you if you're not careful (grew up in the country handling both toads and frogs)

[CTyankee]

22. me, too...excellent...

[HassleCat]

3. Yes, good

We need to back off. It's OK to call males corporate whores, but we have a woman in the race, and use of the word whore is too easily misunderstood. I am being serious here, not sarcastic. For a change.

[surrealAmerican]

4. Shill?

corporate shill?

[pnwmom]

7. I do like that one, too. n/t

[brewens]

6. Before I give a shit, let me see all the times anyone made a big stink

over calling Snot Walker and a few others Koch Whore's. Go ahead, I'll wait.

[pnwmom]

8. Both of them are men. It carries a whole extra level of nastiness when aimed at a woman. n/t

[snooper2]

14. "OK, I get it. It's ok to call people whores. n/t"

We don't have to re-invent the wheel here



Tue Oct-07-08 11:19 AM

"Palin the Political Whore"]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7344938

[pnwmom]

19. I've seen people seriously argue that there is no good substitute for the phrase.

So I thought I'd suggest a few.

And I also like "corporate shill," which was suggested by another poster.

[randys1]

27. I like your approach here.

Thank you for thinking outside the box

[snooper2]

41. corporate shill works, but it doesn't have the "sting" of corporate whore

Is some of that because of the historical usage of whore- 100% yes-

Can ALL people use it without being misogynistic "think Mark Levin", of course not-

Will it be used in the future-
yep

Will there be 200+ threads again-
yep

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. BRAVO

+ brazilion

[Go Vols]

33. +1

[NuclearDem]

49. Maybe you forget the "the Cheneys can go eat a dick" fiasco.

[XRubicon]

10. Prostitute

[pnwmom]

13. In my mind that's in the same category as whore and hooker.

When applied to a woman, it contains nasty, sexist connotations.

[XRubicon]

16. Males and females can be prostitutes... nt

[pnwmom]

17. The vast majority are females. n/t

[XRubicon]

18. not just for sex, try a dictionary

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prostitute

See 3, 5

[pnwmom]

23. The very first definition refers specifically to women.

What a dictionary won't tell you is what the connotations of a word are. And the word "whore" carries nasty associations with females who sell their bodies -- that first definition.

[XRubicon]

30. How about "human being who is not acting appropriately for a corporation"

Anyway, good luck finding the perfect word that pleases everyone.

[pnwmom]

38. There's no need for a single word that pleases everyone.

And no reason to use a word (whore, or one of its variants) that offends many women (and even many progressive men).

[XRubicon]

40. I guess not everyone is sophisticated enough to use or hear words

That have different meanings in different contexts.

[pnwmom]

43. And not everyone is sensitive enough to the word's connotations

to want to avoid using it in any context against women.

[XRubicon]

45. I usually respect peoples intelect I am talking to enough

Not to talk to them like a child.

[pnwmom]

48. But you think it's perfectly fine to call women whores.

Even though a term like corporate shill, toady, or sellout gets the meaning across without the misogyny.

[XRubicon]

50. have you no shame?

[peacebird]

11. Biting My Tongue.... Because the first word that comes to mind would get me banned.....

[pnwmom]

15. Why is it so hard to avoid being offensive? n/t

[TreasonousBastard]

24. Because sometimes you just don't know who will be offended by what.

[etherealtruth]

20. Scum sucking swine comes to mind ... my true preference is corporate shill

I do use insulting phrases (probably more than I should) ... but see no reason (and have no desire to) use phrases that are gender, racial, sexual orientation, ethnic ... slurs.

I see words that evoke painful or hateful images as having no part in a civil or welcoming environment.

[CTyankee]

26. I am fond of pond scum...but that offends ponds...

[Violet_Crumble]

25. But which substitute should I take the black marker pen to my Nirvana t-shirt with?

I don't know. Too many choices! And I fear the shirt will never look the same again...

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. thumbs up

[gollygee]

28. I believe lackey is a reference to enslaved people.

I like the others though.

[pnwmom]

34. That wasn't in dictionary.com as a definition, but thanks for your input.

If enough people thought that it would be reason to use another term.

[NuclearDem]

52. Manservant, from the French laquais (foot soldier, servant).

[HFRN]

31. K Street Walker? nt

[pnwmom]

35. That's a synonym for whore, and it's also associated with females, so it doesn't help much, IMO. n/t

[HFRN]

37. how about 'rent person' then? nt

[hifiguy]

32. Corporate bootlicker also has a nice ring to it

[pnwmom]

36. yeah, that's a good one!

[Scootaloo]

39. I stand by "sellout"

[roody]

44. +1

[pnwmom]

47. Yes! I knew I was forgetting something. I like that, too. n/t

[PowerToThePeople]

42. Corporate ass kisser? n/t

[bvf]

46. I've always been partial to

"Running-dog lackey of the bourgeoisie, " myself, although it's just an embellishment on "lackey."

[TexasProgresive]

51. None of those words fit the definition of selling oneself for money or power.

I can't think of any words that express that. It is not just the selling of body (sex) but the selling of your principles.

I'm not going to use the word but I recall it being in regular use on DU2 to define certain ones in the media, corporations and politics. I don't remember anyone getting too upset by its use. I suppose someone attributed this word to Ms. Clinton.

[cherokeeprogressive]

55. Therein lies the rub. n/t

[pnwmom]

57. What about the word "sellout"?

From Dictionary.com


Informal. a person who betrays a cause, organization, or the like; traitor.
4.
Informal. a person who compromises his or her personal values, integrity, talent, or the like, for money or personal advancement.

[TexasProgresive]

58. Not bad but it doesn't have the power, the edge of the word in question.

I have heard that word and prostitute used my whole life to describe someone who abandons their principles. i.e. an artist who forgos his/her art to seek after fame and or fortune has prostituted their art. It bothers me that we are in danger of limiting the broad range of words because some can't get past one definition.

What started all this foofaraw, and would it have caused so much turmoil if it had been directed at a man, say Trump?

[pnwmom]

59. And the word "whore" has its edge because of its association with women selling their bodies.

Which is exactly why it is especially nasty when it is applied to female politicians.

[hobbit709]

53. Person of negotiable virtue.

[sorcrow]

54. meretricious swine (n/t)

[lame54]

56. I'm ok with whore

[libodem]

60. Thank you

[Initech]

61. I just use the phrase "sell out".