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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:21 PM Jul 2015

Rachel Dolezal: "I wouldn't say I'm African American, but I would say I'm black"

http://www.colorlines.com/articles/rachel-dolezal-vanity-fair-‘i-wouldn’t-say-i’m-african-american-i-would-say-i’m-black

It’s not a costume. I don’t know spiritually and metaphysically how this goes, but I do know that from my earliest memories I have awareness and connection with the black experience, and that’s never left me. It’s not something that I can put on and take off anymore. Like I said, I’ve had my years of confusion and wondering who I really [was] and why and how do I live my life and make sense of it all, but I’m not confused about that any longer. I think the world might be—but I’m not.


Dolezal also said that she doesn’t feel she lied about who she is:

It’s taken my entire life to negotiate how to identify, and I’ve done a lot of research and a lot of studying. I could have a long conversation, an academic conversation about that. I don’t know. I just feel like I didn’t mislead anybody; I didn’t deceive anybody. If people feel misled or deceived, then sorry that they feel that way, but I believe that’s more due to their definition and construct of race in their own minds than it is to my integrity or honesty, because I wouldn’t say I’m African American, but I would say I’m black, and there’s a difference in those terms.


She goes on to talk about the things she lost when the controversy hit, including her position at the NAACP, her spot on the police oversight commission and her part-time job teaching in the Africana Studies program at Eastern Washington University. “I’ve got to figure it out before August 1, because my last paycheck was like $1,800 in June. [I lost] friends and the jobs and the work and—oh, my God—so much at the same time,” she told writer Allison Samuels. She says she is making money by doing hair, and she averages three appointments a week for braids and weaves.
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Rachel Dolezal: "I wouldn't say I'm African American, but I would say I'm black" (Original Post) gollygee Jul 2015 OP
she is back! ROFL snooper2 Jul 2015 #1
When she was a teenager, her parents adopted three African-American children and one Haitian child oberliner Jul 2015 #8
yep, from her earliest memories snooper2 Jul 2015 #9
Maybe something traumatic happened in her youth oberliner Jul 2015 #10
When I was a kid, cwydro Jul 2015 #13
So why did she pretend to be native American before Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #19
+1000 Sissyk Jul 2015 #21
Pass the butter please! Initech Jul 2015 #2
I wonder if someone who actually is black finally told her fine, she can be Jamastiene Jul 2015 #3
I guess everyone has the right, or at least the ability, to self identify as... Walk away Jul 2015 #4
"From my earlierst memories, I've been the Queen of England..." LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #6
Well, at least that's believable Your Majesty! Walk away Jul 2015 #14
I feel Armenian Chirpio Jul 2015 #7
Good for you...your planet isreally small! Walk away Jul 2015 #15
How long before she heckles Bernie Sanders? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5
Do white-people-pretending-to-be-black lives matter? oberliner Jul 2015 #11
How do you know that it wasn't her????? nt Walk away Jul 2015 #16
I saw this yesterday on Twitter tammywammy Jul 2015 #17
that's about right nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #18
Ms. Dolezal, this is the operator. Your fifteen minutes are up. KamaAina Jul 2015 #12
I put my finger on what also bothers me about her. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #20
The results are in...... Fla_Democrat Jul 2015 #22
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. she is back! ROFL
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

" from my earliest memories I have awareness and connection with the black experience,"



Lincoln County, Montana

The racial makeup of the county was 96.09% White, 0.11% Black or African American, 1.20% Native American, 0.31% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.39% from other races, and 1.86% from two or more races. 1.44% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 23.6% were of German, 12.0% English, 10.2% American, 9.8% Norwegian and 9.4% Irish ancestry according to Census 2000. 96.5% spoke English, 1.7% German and 1.3% Spanish as their first language.



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. When she was a teenager, her parents adopted three African-American children and one Haitian child
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

For what that is worth.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
9. yep, from her earliest memories
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jul 2015

LOL-

Ironic thing is, I actually read the whole article, since losing her jobs the only money she is making is from doing hair for black women.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Maybe something traumatic happened in her youth
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:56 PM
Jul 2015

And so she has blocked out the time in her life before she became a teenager?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. When I was a kid,
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jul 2015

I was convinced I was an American Indian. I told my parents I was sure they had adopted me. (I'm very white lol).

My British parents gently explained to me that I was not, but they encouraged me to read and learn about American Indians. They took me to historic Indian sites and bought me books.

But I knew I really wasn't an Indian, no matter how much I wanted to be.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. So why did she pretend to be native American before
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jul 2015

Becoming black?

She's a grifter, plain and simple

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
3. I wonder if someone who actually is black finally told her fine, she can be
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:35 PM
Jul 2015

an "honorary" black person, if that would make her STFU and go away. What a weird way to get her 15 minutes of fame.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
4. I guess everyone has the right, or at least the ability, to self identify as...
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:36 PM
Jul 2015

absolutely anyone or anything they please. The problem starts when you expect anyone else to share your concept of your self. Unless it somewhat matches up reality, you may find yourself alone on your own planet!

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
17. I saw this yesterday on Twitter
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 08:20 PM
Jul 2015
Danielle
Danielle – ?@abradacabla

#BernieSoBlack Rachel Dolezal claimed he's her grandfather

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
20. I put my finger on what also bothers me about her.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:29 PM
Jul 2015

I can't speak to her inner life, but she didn't just pretend to be Black. She created a whole character of a particular female activist of Black consciousness, who explores how race theory and her life intersects. I notice she didn't "feel" like a Black person who works at Jimmie Johns and takes shit from the boss all day.

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