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RandySF

(58,935 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:02 AM Jul 2015

FL-SEN: Alan Grayson does NOT support progressive taxation.

He's pledged to make income inequality and other progressive priorities a focus of his bid. And Grayson told NBC he'd like to make eliminating the income tax for the poorest Americans a key priority. But he seemed more reluctant to tackle the tax rate for top income-earners like himself.

"One way that you could try to address [income inequality] is through the tax system, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you tax people who make more money more," he said.

"At the top end, it's a complicated situation," he added. "I can tell you, in fact, there are repercussions and second order effects that come from modifying the tax rates at the top."


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/alan-grayson-dems-would-crawl-over-hot-coals-naked-back-n389436

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FL-SEN: Alan Grayson does NOT support progressive taxation. (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2015 OP
So who do you support? Murphy? n2doc Jul 2015 #1
Who values fiscal responsibility? yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #4
Yes, consider the source LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #7
Your title doesn't match his statement zipplewrath Jul 2015 #2
Article does not support thread title tkmorris Jul 2015 #3
His opponent is literally a DINO - was GOP until 2011, votes with the GOP, djean111 Jul 2015 #5
A rather radical interpretation of Grayson's record. DirkGently Jul 2015 #6
He should clarify his position at one point naoya6161 Jul 2015 #8
Is he taking campaign advice from Nelson, then? n/t Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #9

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. So who do you support? Murphy?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:11 AM
Jul 2015

Murphy was a Romney-supporting Repub until 2012. He ain't raising taxes on the rich either.

Murphy was described in The Huffington Post as a "pro-choice, pro-LGBT rights but 'not ultra-liberal' Democrat who values fiscal responsibility."[5] The top five contributors to Murphy's campaign committee for the 2013-2014 time period were his family's construction company, Deloitte, Suntech Plumbing, Goldman Sachs, and J Street PAC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Murphy_(Florida_politician)

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
7. Yes, consider the source
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jul 2015

A conservadem dissing an actual progressive. And with false framing no less.

Standard fare from those that want the party to keep moving to the right.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Your title doesn't match his statement
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:25 AM
Jul 2015

Look, I think his run for the Senate is a mistake, but none the less, his statement doesn't match your title. All he said was that modifying the top rate is complicated. He's advocating no income tax for the "poorest", which is a progressive tax system. But he is correct about top rates. Just changing the rate doesn't necessarily accomplish anything if you don't manage the tax code. Folks at the top end already have many ways to avoid income taxes. You can get greater revenues by changing the code, without actually changing the rates.

I'd tend to disagree with him in that one needs to in essence do both, change the code AND change the rates. But that doesn't mean that what he said in anyway suggests he doesn't support a progressive income tax system. It is ALREADY a progressive system and can be made MORE progressive through code changes alone. It can be made even MORE progressive through rate and code changes. Just changing the rates can have the effect of not particularly improving the progressive features, but merely affecting how and where the top rate payers invest and handle their wealth.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
3. Article does not support thread title
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jul 2015

Furthermore, Grayson's opponent is a Repub in sheep's clothing. Obvious hit piece and I would like to know what motivates it.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. His opponent is literally a DINO - was GOP until 2011, votes with the GOP,
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:20 AM
Jul 2015

belongs to that New Democrat Coalition. DINOs. I will be voting for Grayson. Even if he is not on the ballot. Unless there is someone besides Murphy.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
6. A rather radical interpretation of Grayson's record.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015

Supports increasing tax rates.

Grayson supports the CC Voters Guide question on tax rates

Christian Coalition publishes a number of special voter educational materials including the Christian Coalition Voter Guides, which provide voters with critical information about where candidates stand on important faith and family issues. The Christian Coalition Voters Guide summarizes candidate stances on the following topic: "Increasing federal income tax rates"
Source: Christian Coalition Voter Guide 12-CC-q11a on Oct 31, 2012

Opposes eliminating the inheritance tax.

Grayson opposes the CC Voters Guide question on the inheritance tax


http://www.ontheissues.org/FL/Alan_Grayson_Tax_Reform.htm

As others have pointed out, Grayson's primary opponent says he voted for Mitt Romney, and holds the record for the most votes against his party, and with the Republicans, in the state of Florida, and has made "bipartisan" SS "reform" the centerpiece of his candidacy.

naoya6161

(147 posts)
8. He should clarify his position at one point
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:42 PM
Jul 2015

If he does want to run a super progressive campaign, he should explain why he said that it's complicated, since it seems like all the other progressives believe in progressive taxation.
But given his recent responses to questions as of late...

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