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What Class Warfare Looks Like (really good chart) (Original Post) annabanana Jul 2015 OP
K&R! nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #1
Why aren't all the Dem candidates and politicians using this info against the GOP? nt procon Jul 2015 #2
I figure if enough of us tweet, face & email this thing annabanana Jul 2015 #3
Didn't Obama push for extending the bush tax cuts? hughee99 Jul 2015 #7
irrelevant now. . . .n/t annabanana Jul 2015 #10
It's relevant to this specific argument. Nt hughee99 Jul 2015 #11
Which explains the no link or context given for a 2011 produced graphic. Who needs context? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #31
not exactly if you were paying attention. publikkkalns DEMANDED it. HOW obama got unemployment pansypoo53219 Jul 2015 #44
Yes, but if you're going to push the idea hughee99 Jul 2015 #48
Because they're complicit? corkhead Jul 2015 #43
Thanks! Xyzse Jul 2015 #4
Well... ananda Jul 2015 #5
Amen.... daleanime Jul 2015 #20
Best post of the week. Ignore the divisive distractions - eyes on the prize for The People. canoeist52 Jul 2015 #6
Thanks for posting! hamsterjill Jul 2015 #8
Dems voting for this stuff zipplewrath Jul 2015 #9
Kicking this up JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #12
Oh how true. padfun Jul 2015 #17
The rich are eating us cutroot Jul 2015 #13
Interesting chart, thanks for posting. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #14
Only One I Don't Like ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #15
#GreenMoneyMatters (n/t) Moostache Jul 2015 #16
excellent, but do you have a link to the source? magical thyme Jul 2015 #18
Making stuff up and comparing apples to oranges on the Internet? When does that ever happen? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #19
Expert analysis is always appreciated...... daleanime Jul 2015 #21
found the link in post 25. magical thyme Jul 2015 #28
I noticed that. I remember how hard Obama, we all, fought to finally get these cuts to expire. Some "forget". Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author snot Jul 2015 #26
where is this information from? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #22
here Skeeter Barnes Jul 2015 #25
Thanks! snot Jul 2015 #27
Kick! SoapBox Jul 2015 #23
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2015 #24
The need for some of these programs would decrease if Skeeter Barnes Jul 2015 #29
Additionally, these programs are perfectly reasonable in a civilized society. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #46
this is a very contrived list hill2016 Jul 2015 #32
you are, of course, free to compile your own list niyad Jul 2015 #35
Are you saying ALL deductions must be eliminated if ANY are? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #38
k and r niyad Jul 2015 #33
Yikes. Kurovski Jul 2015 #34
Why did I suddenly picture this? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #37
Wont someone think of the out of work estate planners if we eliminate that deduction? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #36
That is a clear cut graphic of class warfare. Kick midnight Jul 2015 #39
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #40
Excellent. K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #41
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2015 #42
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #45
Note- needs a correction James48 Jul 2015 #47

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
7. Didn't Obama push for extending the bush tax cuts?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jul 2015

If I recall correctly, they were supposed to have ended at the end of 2010.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
44. not exactly if you were paying attention. publikkkalns DEMANDED it. HOW obama got unemployment
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:51 AM
Jul 2015

coverage extended. still more TIT that tat. at least the bottom got something.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
48. Yes, but if you're going to push the idea
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:40 AM
Jul 2015

That the bush tax cuts are all the republicans fault, you should be prepared to explain how this happened with a Dem president, House, and Senate, and respond when someone posts quotes of the president pushing FOR it.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
8. Thanks for posting!
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:30 AM
Jul 2015

I love comparative charts. I think they are one of the ways even the people who vote Republican can understand! I will be sharing.

Appreciate it!

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. Dems voting for this stuff
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:32 AM
Jul 2015

It might be surprising to find out how much of this stuff was either supported by Dems, or worse, written by dems.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
12. Kicking this up
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jul 2015

Excellent visual annabanana! It will only get worse if we give the WH to a Republican in 2016.

ProfessorGAC

(65,081 posts)
15. Only One I Don't Like
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jul 2015

The alcohol fuel tax break being compared to community health center cuts. Now, let's be clear, the cuts are a bad thing.

But, not all the alcohol breaks benefit the big fuel companies or agribusiness. And, i support finding some ways to increase renewable fuel usage. In this case, i understood this to be "carrot and stick". In the short term, the incentive was tax breaks, until the mandate takes full hold and then fuel companies have to supply some percentage of their volume as renewable fuel stocks and the tax breaks go away. So, it's a phased in mandate that incentivizes early adoption.

Everything else on the list are beyond valid and open to criticism. The encouragement toward renewables, not so much.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
18. excellent, but do you have a link to the source?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jul 2015

without a source, it's easy for anybody to claim the figures are made up.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. Making stuff up and comparing apples to oranges on the Internet? When does that ever happen?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jul 2015

Links are for sissys.

Instant Outage is a reliable best-seller on the Internet, why dilute this perfectly good potion with more information?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
28. found the link in post 25.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jul 2015

Center for American Progress, dated 2011.

I was pretty sure that Obama quietly let those Bush tax cuts expire.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
30. I noticed that. I remember how hard Obama, we all, fought to finally get these cuts to expire. Some "forget".
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jul 2015

Response to magical thyme (Reply #18)

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
22. where is this information from?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jul 2015

(i'm not doubting the veracity of the info, just want to know where the original numbers are from)

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
32. this is a very contrived list
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jul 2015

why doesn't it include things like state and local deductions, mortgage interest deductions on primary homes, amt, pease limits, personal exemptions phaseout, ira tax free accounts, 529 plans, etc?

it just says that any tax policy it doesn't agree with is a tax break.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
34. Yikes.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jul 2015

As a nation, we really should stop putting the wealthy on a pedestal and disengage from our own self-loathing.

James48

(4,437 posts)
47. Note- needs a correction
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jul 2015

The ethanol fuel tax credit was eliminated on January 1, 2012.

It no longer exists.



Just sayin'....

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