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What do you think about income inequity in the entertainment field ? (Original Post) olddots Jul 2015 OP
I think it is a distraction from the real problem randys1 Jul 2015 #1
I can list several Unions that would take issue with that statement. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #10
I was not talking about working people, I assumed the OP was meant to cause derision over randys1 Jul 2015 #11
I think that the people I enjoy should be paid more el_bryanto Jul 2015 #2
I think I should be paid millions for the crummy songs I record on Friday nights. Hoyt Jul 2015 #3
Depends, do you use autotune? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #6
LOL. Naw, I sing folk, so singing in tune is not a prerequisite to success. Hoyt Jul 2015 #14
It became quite an issue here after our Women's World Cup triumph KamaAina Jul 2015 #4
The Women's World Cup Champions made $15 million. The men's champs made $575 million. underahedgerow Jul 2015 #29
Well, it's obviously just fine for some actor... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #5
Why should the Chairman of GE fly coach? philosslayer Jul 2015 #15
Because all 1%ers are spawn of the devil... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #17
You're generous philosslayer Jul 2015 #18
The gap should be closed. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #7
I think they are trying at least in TV yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #27
That is one area it doesn't bother me that much. hifiguy Jul 2015 #8
There are corporate superstars as well philosslayer Jul 2015 #16
A businessperson like Jobs hifiguy Jul 2015 #19
Back in the 40's iirc they had a division of the WPA that paid actors to do plays. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #9
1935-1939 The Federal Theater Project employed about 15,000 people and contributed greatly to Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #13
Yes Kalidurga Jul 2015 #21
It's a smashing indictment of character seveneyes Jul 2015 #12
Most entertainers tend to be more liberal, so why not give them a pass and trust ileus Jul 2015 #20
Have you seen the new Terminator movie yet? snooper2 Jul 2015 #22
For me, its hard because circumstances have changed drastically. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #23
Income inequality? Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #24
Kylie Jenner can buy a $3 million fucking mansion at 17. Initech Jul 2015 #25
none of them should get a dime Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #26
It is a symptom of the decadence and corruption of our culture. bemildred Jul 2015 #28
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. I can list several Unions that would take issue with that statement.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jul 2015

It's a very important issue to people who work in those industries and rely on them for health and retirement benefits as well as for food and a roof. As real as problems get.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
11. I was not talking about working people, I assumed the OP was meant to cause derision over
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jul 2015

highly paid actors and athletes, when in fact these are the exception.

I also know people who work in that world and so on so I dont think I meant what you think I did.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. I think that the people I enjoy should be paid more
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

while those I think are "dumb" or "lousy" should be paid less, even if they are very popular with other people. Other people are wrong.

Bryant

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
29. The Women's World Cup Champions made $15 million. The men's champs made $575 million.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:51 AM
Jul 2015

Got disparity much?

What a world, what a world!

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Well, it's obviously just fine for some actor...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jul 2015

to fly his dogs out of Australia on his private jet.

But, the chairman of GE should fly coach.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
17. Because all 1%ers are spawn of the devil...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jul 2015

and deserve nothing more than the bare minimum for survival, except maybe for sports and entertainment stars. At least that's what I hear around here.

Now, I realize that the original question was more about discrepancies within the arts and sports worlds, which do indeed suck, but why not expand the territory....

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
7. The gap should be closed.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jul 2015

There should also be opportunities to bring more diversity to entertainment & arts fields.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. That is one area it doesn't bother me that much.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jul 2015

People vote with their money to pay to see certain entertainers. If I don't like some actor, team, or musician I don't buy their product.

And athletics are exceedingly meritocratic. The skills required to star in a major professional sport are very rare, otherwise everyone could be a Serena Williams, LeBron James, Peyton Manning or Mike Trout, and their careers aren't for a lifetime. People who do something extraordinarily difficult or demanding at the highest possible level are worth what they earn, whether it's the aforementioned athletes, Leonardo DiCaprio or Lang Lang.

Overpaid corporate schmuck leaves Yutzcorp with a golden parachute and the business keeps rolling right along with another overpaid corporate schmuck in his place; there's nothing rare or special about those "skills" and you get rewarded even for fucking up colossally and in every way. See Carly Fiorina and Clownstick Trump as Exhibits A and B. Athletes and entertainers can't do that and keep getting the big bux. Take James off the Cavaliers and they're a below-.500 team. That illustrates the difference between entertainment and the corporate world.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
16. There are corporate superstars as well
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:29 PM
Jul 2015

Contrast Apple before Steve Jobs showed up (after they kicked him out in the mid-80's), and when he came back in the late 90's. Apple was limping along before he showed up and turned it into the largest company in the world. Yes, it wasn't a one-man effort, but using your L. James example, Apple was an also-ran without him

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. A businessperson like Jobs
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jul 2015

comes along about as often as a Michael Jordan in sports. Most top corporate managers are schmucks with connections. And didn't Jobs send most of Apple's manufacturing to Foxcomm in China, a business that is about half a step up from actual slavery? That will blow up the bottom line very nicely.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. Back in the 40's iirc they had a division of the WPA that paid actors to do plays.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jul 2015

It would be great if they brought that back. So when an actor/actress is out of work and people that can't pay 300 dollars for a theatre seat can afford to go for a much lower amount say under 20 bucks.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. 1935-1939 The Federal Theater Project employed about 15,000 people and contributed greatly to
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jul 2015

the American theater. This link to the Library of Congress section on the Federal Theater Project contains all sorts of amazing material, images, posters, plays....it's pretty amazing.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/newdeal/ftp.html

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
21. Yes
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jul 2015

I would love that to come back. It allowed people to see very good plays for very little money. It employed a lot of actors that became household names as well. It could improve our culture a great deal if we had this kind of thing where writers, directors, actors, and actresses something like a training ground a place where they could really hone their skills.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
20. Most entertainers tend to be more liberal, so why not give them a pass and trust
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jul 2015

them to do what's right.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
23. For me, its hard because circumstances have changed drastically.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:09 PM
Jul 2015

Over the years.

I generally have no problem with someone gaining extreme wealth, as long as it doesn't harm others.

You take your average athlete. I mean, first off, it is a game. Putting the ball in a hole is fun, I get it. And some people get really, really good at putting the balls in the holes.

But when you start thinking about the carbon footprint of say, the past time of playing with balls, the stadiums filled with people driving to them in cars, the air traffic of teams zigzagging across the world, the networks loading planes and following them around, all to determine, year after year, who the best is at putting the ball in the hole. In the face of AGW, is either insane or incredibly ignorant and selfish, at best.

I feel much the same about Hollywood and music. As long as you aren't harming others, I am all for you. I am really excited by the developments of green screen technology and digital music. We can create amazing movies never leaving a studio, the same with music, with art. The footprint can be very small while at the same time providing great enjoyment.

I wish it didn't have to be this way, but this is the way the world is. All we can do is try to ease the assured future suffering of others and not continue to heap that pain upon them playing games.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
24. Income inequality?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:32 PM
Jul 2015

Do you mean like when some actors are paid $20 million to be in a film while other actors are waiting tables and living with five other actors in a two bedroom apartment?

Initech

(100,107 posts)
25. Kylie Jenner can buy a $3 million fucking mansion at 17.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jul 2015

All for having contributed absolutely nothing of value to society except for being the sister of a famous reality TV star that is famous for taking selfies for a living. And then there's people like me who can't afford the monthly rent for an apartment. Something is very wrong with this picture.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
26. none of them should get a dime
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:08 AM
Jul 2015

modern entertainment is recycled suckage created for one reason only: to sell to idiots who don't realize how every last song and every last movie that hits the broadcast waves is a sexually oversaturated rip-off of something done better in a previous era

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