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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:35 PM Jul 2015

If Bill Clinton was the First Black Prez, Was Jimmy Carter the First Woman?

Serious question. Jimmy Carter was excoriated in the media for his refusal to send the military into Tehran after the Embassy was attacked. He preferred peace and diplomacy to a show of force. He negotiated a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt that has lasted (more or less) to this day. His "rose garden campaign" was the exact opposite of the macho posturing of the Hollywood Cowboy who came after him---and many Americans applauded the false machismo of Ronald Reagan---his pathetic but successful invasion of Granada, his massive military spending that bankrupted the nation and had all of us in fear of a nuclear war. Reagan got a pass on Iran-Contra and Contra-Cocaine because he claimed to be fighting communism in order to keep us safe---even though we had never been more frightened.

So, my question, was Jimmy Carter ridiculed by the press, because he did not act like an angry Hulk? Because he showed restraint? And, are the qualities of restraint and negotiation and peacemaking considered "feminine characteristics" in this country, making the job of Secretary of State ideal for a woman but leading Americans to long for someone more macho as their Commander in Chief?

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If Bill Clinton was the First Black Prez, Was Jimmy Carter the First Woman? (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 OP
Say wha? I must have my LSD filter on DU again. NightWatcher Jul 2015 #1
I believe that would be James Buchanan. n/t WinkyDink Jul 2015 #2
He was the first Jewish President. onehandle Jul 2015 #3
No, that would be co-President Eleanor Roosevelt. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #4
I never got that one treestar Jul 2015 #5
They weren't the first to use the phrase, truebluegreen Jul 2015 #6
thanks treestar Jul 2015 #7
They meant that he fit into the bullshit stereotypes of black males. craigmatic Jul 2015 #11
What the hell? Aerows Jul 2015 #8
This OP smells like pizza. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #9
Bill clinton was an asshole please stop calling him the first black president. craigmatic Jul 2015 #10
Is he transracial CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #12

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. Say wha? I must have my LSD filter on DU again.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:41 PM
Jul 2015

I was 5 at the time but I have not read or heard that he was treated like a woman for not warring more. He did take flack for the failure of the Delta Force mission however.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. He was the first Jewish President.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jul 2015

Hillary will be the first woman in January 2017.

'Jimmy Carter was the first president who officially recognized Hanukkah, when in 1979 he walked from the White House to Lafayette Park to deliver brief remarks as he lit the new National Menorah erected by the Jewish group, Chabad-Lubavitch. Based on his sensitivity to Hanukkah, his next annual Christmas message was carefully worded, with greetings "to those of our fellow citizens who join us in the joyous celebration of Christmas". Since then, every president has participated in a menorah-lighting ceremony to recognize Hanukkah, and directed the Christmas message to those citizens who celebrate that holiday.[4] Joshua Eli Plaut's book A Kosher Christmas: 'Tis the Season to Be Jewish," (Rutgers University Press, 2012) cites President Jimmy Carter's daily diary entry detailing his lighting of the shamash candle on the menorah in the presence of the Chabad Rabbi.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Hanukkah_Party

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. I never got that one
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

what did the idiot right wingers mean when they said Bill Clinton was the first black president?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. thanks
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

I had not known of that! Very interesting.

Note this:

this is our first black President. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children's lifetime.


Little did they know it was only going to be 10 years.
 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
10. Bill clinton was an asshole please stop calling him the first black president.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:55 PM
Jul 2015

He did nothing for blacks except send more to prison.

 

CTBlueboy

(154 posts)
12. Is he transracial
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 03:56 AM
Jul 2015

Bill Clinton will never be black anything

He would never and I mean ever understand what its like to be black.

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