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This weeks showPope Francis slams unbridled capitalism & urges revolution by the downtrodden
Pope Francis is on a roll in his part of the world, South America. He is in Santa Cruz, Bolivia. Pope Francis had choice words for unbridled capitalism. In fact he spoke the words of a revolution by the downtrodden.
The Pope is rather consistent in his support for the poor, the downtrodden, and the middle-class more so than any other pope or religious figure in my lifetime. He makes the religious leaders of America that have made unfettered capitalism their god, look like the Pharisees they are.
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OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)that Jesus had, as have others. A powerful and charismatic and Godly leader. We need his counsel...God protect him.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)disagree with him. But on economics - absolutely.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)are on the same wavelength in that regard. Can we say "God help us?" Well, the Pope is close enough. Also he's speaking to the Greeks and the EU and Asia...quite a broad reach.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)something is happening here and we must do our best to have hope.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,949 posts)I'd go far as to say he's the most egalitarian pope ever. In the past all that was offered was a promise of 'deferred gratification' that could never be proven or disproven.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)He's more modern. Not on everything, but he's a big step in the right direction.
The papacy, and other spiritual leaders, need to be a counterweight to profit obsession. Since virtually all institutions are governed by money, including the media and the government, some leader has to balance that by voicing the concerns of the poor, who have no money to influence anything.
If he can do that and nothing else, that will be a success
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Something about materialism reducing to life to a negotiable commodity was wrong.
She gave a 'That's What I'm Talkin' About!' whoop. And though she has serious issues with the RCC, she is looking forward to see Francis skewer the GOP in September!
Gloria
(17,663 posts)more than anyone else....
Meanwhile in Bolivia, the pope is anxious because now not just Catholicism is to be taught in schools...And, ancient symbols are being used instead of the Church stuff at public events. The new government is trying to bring the place into a more modern secular approach....which is a GOOD thing for any country wanting to move forward....It's a diverse country in terms of religion and recent polling shows that while the vast majority are Catholics, most don't really participate....the folk elements and historical elements are strong...
Morales is a Catholic, is pretty OK with this pope, but is taking steps toward secularism...
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/2015/0708/Pope-Francis-insists-on-church-s-influence-in-Bolivia-amid-government-efforts-to-rebuff
"....Morales came to power championing Bolivia's 36 indigenous groups and enshrined their rights in the constitution, and under his leadership Bolivia's economy has boomed thanks to high prices for its natural gas and minerals. But Morales has roiled the local church by taking a series of anti-clerical initiatives, including a new constitution that made the overwhelmingly Catholic nation a secular country.
In his speech, Francis noted the Catholic faith took "deep root" in Bolivia centuries ago "and has continued to shed its light upon society, contributing to the development of the nation and shaping its culture."
"The voice of the bishops, which must be prophetic, speaks to society in the name of the church, our mother, from her preferential, evangelical option for the poor," he said.
Morales, for his part, recalled how the Catholic Church in the past was on the side of the oppressors of Bolivia's people, three-quarters of whom are of indigenous origin. But Morales, an Aymara Indian known for anti-imperialist and socialist stands, said things have changed with this pope and the Bolivian people are greeting Francis as someone who is "helping in the liberation of our people.""
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seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Follow the money.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Climate change and rapacious, exploitive, destructive capitalism. That is a very big deal no matter what his views on other subjects may be.
calimary
(81,337 posts)his revolutionary thinking on the two big ones.
Climate change and the destructive world-wide system of capitalism. Both are potentially extinction-level events in one way or other. While I wish he would modernize on women's issues (and maybe women priests, finally), where he is on the two big ones is where EVERY leader on earth - of EVERY kind, whether it's religious or secular or political or philosophical - should be.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)beg him not to speak about these issues, when he is going to
address Congress. They would love for him to talk only
about abortions and the gay issues, but I don't
think they can tell him to be quiet about Climate Change and
all it implies.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)if they still do and how that plays out...while championing some of their issues.