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Joe Scarborough: "what makes him think he could get away with punching a blonde woman?" (Original Post) wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 OP
I know absolutely nothing about this case. johnp3907 Jul 2015 #1
Yeah, why use the "blonde" adjective instead of just "woman"? brush Jul 2015 #2
Tamron Hall was exploring that earlier this morning. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #4
Look at the video again. It's brief but you can see her knee come up between them . . . brush Jul 2015 #11
Him grabbing her arm first is the first meaningful assault. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #18
The trial will be interesting brush Jul 2015 #22
She was trying to defend herself from a man who was aggressively attacking her. BreakfastClub Jul 2015 #20
You seem to make the same sort of argument the gun nuts do. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #21
Because if he'd said "white" he might have gotten suspended. KamaAina Jul 2015 #8
Not a chance in hell Snow Leopard Jul 2015 #23
I don't think anyone should "get away with" punching *any* woman. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #3
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #5
aren't you classy wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 #6
Class isn't defined by being a punching bag because the puncher has a vagina. TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #19
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2015 #15
Scarborough's starting to sound like he's had a recent stroke. randome Jul 2015 #7
or some TBI Traumatic Brain Injury, it can show up much later after a fall or severe hit on the head uponit7771 Jul 2015 #16
What makes Joe think he can get away with covering up the death of an intern? KamaAina Jul 2015 #9
Something you will NEVER hear from the M$M.... madinmaryland Jul 2015 #10
What was the hair color of the dead woman malaise Jul 2015 #12
Dead Intern Joe would like to punch a blonde woman... Ino Jul 2015 #13
ugh...blech...he is SO disgusting CrawlingChaos Jul 2015 #14
Maybe Scarborough thinks it's ok to punch brunettes? Orrex Jul 2015 #17

brush

(53,784 posts)
2. Yeah, why use the "blonde" adjective instead of just "woman"?
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jul 2015

If she wasn't blonde he could get away with it?

And btw, I know this isn't a popular opinion, but shouldn't there be charges on both sides?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Tamron Hall was exploring that earlier this morning.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:36 PM
Jul 2015

According to the guy's lawyer, the woman kneed him in the groin at some point prior to that punch. You can't really see that (at least I can't) in the video. I would certainly hope that anyone who committed assault faced charges.

brush

(53,784 posts)
11. Look at the video again. It's brief but you can see her knee come up between them . . .
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jul 2015

while he is holding her fist. She then throws a punch and he punches back.

The fact that she punched and kneed him is going to help him when it goes to trial.

He of course, should have walked away and not have retaliated with a punch.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
18. Him grabbing her arm first is the first meaningful assault.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:02 AM
Jul 2015

Prior to that there was just rude shoving fairly common at bars. Yes she put her arm up and made a fist but she didn't strike him or was making a forward motion to do so.

He put his hands on her first.

brush

(53,784 posts)
22. The trial will be interesting
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:16 AM
Jul 2015

In some jurisdictions flaunting a fist in someone's face is considered a threat and one is not obligated to wait to be hit without trying to stop it. He tried to stop it by holding her wrist

We'll see how it plays out as she then kneed and punched him before he retaliated with a harder punch.

Neither is completely innocent. I suspect there will be charges against her too at some point now that the video has gone viral.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
20. She was trying to defend herself from a man who was aggressively attacking her.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:30 AM
Jul 2015

What in the fuck do you expect her to do? Just sit back and take it? Sick, sick, sick. She had a right to defend herself.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
21. You seem to make the same sort of argument the gun nuts do.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:34 AM
Jul 2015

And the RW Israelis. That any insult, any aggression must be met with an escalation in violence.

That the answer to violence is more violence, and any other response is 'sitting back and taking it'.

I don't agree with either of them either.

The answer to violence is NOT more violence, not escalating anger. There are almost always other options available, and there certainly were other options available in a crowded bar.

Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
19. Class isn't defined by being a punching bag because the puncher has a vagina.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:20 AM
Jul 2015

I have no idea where the concept that a woman should be allowed to do whatever terrible shit they want (or at least minimize it to about nothing) to a man.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Scarborough's starting to sound like he's had a recent stroke.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 07:21 PM
Jul 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
16. or some TBI Traumatic Brain Injury, it can show up much later after a fall or severe hit on the head
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 06:16 AM
Jul 2015

... and the patient wont even know it unless they get to a neurologist or cognitive therapist.

His outburts etc and lacks of thurough thought make me think he hit his head

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. What makes Joe think he can get away with covering up the death of an intern?
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jul 2015

Her name was Lori Klausutis.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
10. Something you will NEVER hear from the M$M....
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jul 2015

"what makes him (Ben Roethlisberger) think he could get away with punching a black woman?"

I am not saying Roethlisberger ever did that, but am just using it as an example. Though he did rape women.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
14. ugh...blech...he is SO disgusting
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 02:51 AM
Jul 2015

I don't have so much words to describe my feelings for him, as I do retching noises.

And Mika is little better, with her simpering deference.

One of the most loathsome pairs on television. Who in the hell watches this excrement?

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