Whoopi is still saying Cosby innocent until proven guilty

[stevenleser]

Why Whoopi? Why? Why is that what you have to say at this point?

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/07/07/whoopi-goldberg-bill-cosby-is-innocent-until-proven-guilty/

Whoopi Goldberg is doubling down in her defense of Bill Cosby despite his admission in sworn testimony he gave women quaaludes to have sex with them.

“The View” host spoke about the most recent damning evidence against Cosby, which was revealed on Monday when previously sealed court documents were released. In a sworn deposition taken in 2005, the married entertainer admitted to purchasing quaaludes with the intention of giving them to women he wanted to have sex with.

“I think it’s, again, we’ll see what happens,” Goldberg said of the Cosby developments. “As more information comes out, people can make judgments. I don’t like snap judgments.”

The TV host added she didn’t care what critics would say of her stance.

[PoliticAverse]

1. "I don’t like snap judgments.” - I think she needs to look up the meaning of "snap judgement".

Several years and 40 women later doesn't qualify.

[Kalidurga]

3. Dear Whoopi

Even conservatives get that he is a rapist. Do you know how hard it is to convince a conservative that another conservative is guilty of anything?

[oberliner]

15. Cosby proudly voted for Obama

And said that he has always voted for Democrats.

[bettyellen]

18. But Dems don't tend to blame women and punish them for getting raped- hence their reluctance to

Believe women who are raped.

[Kalidurga]

20. Yet, that doesn't make him a liberal.

Nor does it follow that someone voting for Republicans makes a person a conservative.

[oberliner]

21. True

But for the vast majority of his public life he certainly presented himself as a Democrat. And he has donated primarily to Democrats - and spoke out in support of Obama throughout his two campaigns.

Just saying not every bad person is a right winger.

[Kalidurga]

63. There are rw democrats

the authoritarian/anti-authoritarian scale might be more helpful. Cosby is an authoritarian type and no they are not all bad we all need some structure and rules in our lives. But, the say as I do type and the my way or the highway type are almost always bad.

[brush]

60. Whoopi isn't long for that show if she keeps defending Cosby.

He admitted that he was guilty in the deposition.

[joeybee12]

2. Whoopi's celebrity worship is nauseating...

Any joe schmoe off the street she would have thrown to the wolves years ago, but Bill is famous, and of course she and he are so much better than the rest of us...Whoopi needs to go away.

[Stardust]

28. Her luuuuuve for The Donald is nauseating, too.

[joeybee12]

36. She's a mixed bag...

Very good on some issues, but as you noted, totally out there on some...like supporting The Donald.

[Stardust]

39. So true. I admired her a lot until she came up with these stinkers.

[joeybee12]

41. I always assumed she was the voice of reason on The View...

I don't assume that anymore.

[BillZBubb]

4. Wow, Whoopi has lost her marbles.

[avebury]

5. Candace Cameron Bure was just as bad

on the Oregon wedding cake issue.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

6. At this point, she reminds me of --

those folks during the Bush years who would support/believe/defend the worst of his actions despite evidence and reality.

She is, of course, correct that he is innocent until proven guilty. That doesn't mean that I cannot come to a personal conclusion based on a preponderance of available evidence. And my conclusion KILLS me, because I was a HUGE fan on Mr. Cosby from the time I was a little girl in the 60s.

[ProfessorGAC]

7. You Described Me To A "T"

Well, except for the "little girl in the 60's" part. But i too was a huge fan of "To My Brother Russel" and "200 MPH" and "Why Is There Air?" The Y chromosome prohibits me from fitting the other description!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

13. "I Spy", "Fat Albert" --

"The chicken heart that ate New York" -- that was my growing up. I got to see him perform when I was around 11 years old. He had the crowd rolling in the aisles. Seriously good times for folks like us. Totally marred, sadly.

[calimary]

29. Oh man - "Why Is There Air?" And "To My Brother Russell Who I Slept With" - I played those albums

again and again and again. LOVED 'em. Loved HIM, too!

I've never had any reason to doubt any of the women who've come forward about him. I even have a friend who used to do a lot of acting and she said he came on to her a little but it didn't go anywhere in her case. And I must say I interviewed him back then, myself. He never came onto me. But then again, I was never all that physically attractive, the way these other models and actresses (including my friend) were at that time. It was weird though. I had all these preconceptions about him based on all those comedy albums I'd listened to and had come to love - and love him for. And I got there to the office at Universal where he and several male assistants were holed up. It was a very strained atmosphere. He was a cold fish. Not friendly or warm or congenial as his onstage personality showed. I was prepared for a loose, freewheeling interview filled with one-liners and bits and recollections and personality and stuff. Got NOTHING of the kind. He was cold and forbidding and closed. I was very disappointed. I was SO looking forward to some cool soundbites. Got NOTHING.

This, too, has been so disappointing. Because with an individual like him, you just don't want it to be true.

Whoopi Goldberg is still there, I'm afraid. Many of the rest of us left that place long ago. YES innocent until proven guilty. YES of course. But Sheesh - when he admits it... Whoopi, how much more is there that you'd need?

Frankly, I don't want it to be true either, and never did. Shows you how powerful branding is!!! And he had a 24-karat-gold brand there for a long time. He was "America's Dad," and with the comedy albums and tours and even the Jello commercials. But it certainly does seem to be exactly that. Especially when we now have his own admissions about it.

[Nye Bevan]

8. Wow. She also defended Roman Polanski, saying that his rape of a 13-year old was not "rape-rape".

Very weird and disappointing.

[SusanCalvin]

27. I remember that.

I don't know what goes on in her mind sometimes.

[jwirr]

9. He has been a giant to many who watched his comedy, his career and his influence on the issues

for decades. He is one of the most well known black performers to all of us regardless of race. As such it is very hard to learn that he has clay feet.

When I watch this story unfold my heart aches. There is a great lose in this story and it is not just the lose of innocence. I remember his skit from the 60s regarding "They came for the _________ first...." And there were others. And I remember much more. There was never a hint of the clay feet. He spoke across the barriers of race and we all listened.

It is sad that we did not see what was happening and I ask myself "Why didn't we see this?" It has come as a shock even now. I can understand Whoopi. She is hurting and our hero has clay feet.

[Takket]

10. which begs the question....

When is an arrest going to be made so we can get to work on the "proving him guilty" part?

[cwydro]

12. Statute of limitations

precludes that happening.

[Takket]

83. oh... ALL of them? not even one is recent enough?

[cwydro]

86. Not as yet.

Unless a more recent one surfaces, he is safe from prosecution.

[bettyellen]

92. I'm hoping he stopped because of the legal complaints against him.

[geek tragedy]

11. Whoopi Goldberg is an asshole. This is not a 'snap judgment' it's an accurate assessment of

all the wrong-assed stuff she's projectile-vomited over the years.

[LondonReign2]

14. Isn't swearing to it under oath "proven guilty"??

[HFRN]

78. it's not 'proven guilty', but it is inculpable hearsay which is an exception

to the hearsay rule of evidence 804.3(A)

which could lead to a conviction or civil judgement

[realFedUp]

16. Few Cosby posts on DU

Unbelievable. The revealed facts from hard work by a reporter of his admission he intentionally used drugs to have many unconscious women for him to rape, sodomize, whatever and There isn't more reaction or prompts for his arrest is unconscionable. I don't care if he invented electricity which at least would have improved lives. The fact that he's still hiding these crimes makes him the worst kind of human being. People defending him are indefensible in my eyes. Whoopie et al is in such a hideous denial.

[JI7]

17. She defends mel gibson and Roman Polanski also

Disappointing

[bettyellen]

19. She is from the "that's the breaks" school where any woman who wants anything from a man should take

What ever is handed to her. The kind hat judges the victims behavior more than the rapist. As if they should have expected this! Which is nuts because no one expected shit like this from
Cosby- certainly not women who befriended him. Yikes.

[Octafish]

22. Right. Who needs a trial and conviction? That's so Old School.

New School means we know who's guilty without a trial because an expert tells us so.

PS: Going from the news reports, Cosby looks guilty to me -- but he hasn't been convicted in court. Until that happens, he's innocent.

[stevenleser]

23. .

[Octafish]

24. And you call yourself a Democrat?

Ever hear of the Constitution? The Bill of Rights? Civil Rights? That's the Old School I'm talking about.

PS: Really nice emoticon. So profound.

[stevenleser]

25. .

[Octafish]

53. Not the words I'd use, but, what the heck.

[stevenleser]

55. You can't accuse me of anything. I haven't been convicted. nt

[Octafish]

58. That's why I put in a photo and everything.

Unsettling in a way to read so many DUers don't understand my point by stating that, in the United States of America, one is innocent until proven guilty.



Then, again, some don't want to understand what I wrote if it presents an opportunity to smear.

ETA: Forgot picture.

[stevenleser]

59. Doesn't matter. You shouldnt even be making the accusation according to your own principles

that supposedly have you calling 48+ women likely liars.

[Octafish]

61. Where did I call ''48+ women likely liars''?

Straw man.

This is the fallacy of refuting a caricatured or extreme version of somebody's argument, rather than the actual argument they've made. Often this fallacy involves putting words into somebody's mouth by saying they've made arguments they haven't actually made, in which case the straw man argument is a veiled version of argumentum ad logicam. One example of a straw man argument would be to say, "Mr. Jones thinks that capitalism is good because everybody earns whatever wealth they have, but this is clearly false because many people just inherit their fortunes," when in fact Mr. Jones had not made the "earnings" argument and had instead argued, say, that capitalism gives most people an incentive to work and save. The fact that some arguments made for a policy are wrong does not imply that the policy itself is wrong.

[Ino]

102. PRESUMED innocent...

not the same as BEING innocent.

[realFedUp]

26. Statute of limitations

Is the only rule standing in the way of justice and punishment finally for this man.

[Octafish]

57. Other posters have pointed out out-of-court settlements got people to drop charges, too.

Personally, I think men CONVICTED of drugging and raping unconscious women should be given life terms.

[pnwmom]

45. Ever hear of sworn testimony? Do you understand the legal implications of his deposition?

He gave a sworn deposition, under penalty of perjury, that he had acquired quaaludes a number of times for the purpose of having sex with women; and on at least one occasion gave them to a woman.

He convicted himself with his own sworn testimony.

[Octafish]

52. Thanks for the legal lesson. He has not been convicted in a court of law.

Are you in law school, pnwmom? You sure know your stuff.

[stevenleser]

54. And so now you have a lot of apologies to make. To all the folks who you have accused of stuff who

haven't been convicted.

I'm sure the list is long as you have accused me of many things in the past, heck many things just under this OP.

[Octafish]

62. Stick with the BFEE, stevenleser. You say they're innocent until proven guilty.

Show where I've accused any Bush or BFEE crony -- or anyone, for that matter -- of anything that I have not backed up by fact.

Show where I've intentionally lied or presented information that was not true on DU.

Go through my Journal on DU3 or DU2.

Show, stevenleser.

[pnwmom]

65. He avoided a court of law by paying off women he swore he raped. Are you fine with that?

And don't tell me we don't know. We do -- because of his sworn deposition.

[onenote]

56. Giving quaaludes to someone and then having sex with them isn't illegal

any more than smoking a joint with someone and then having sex with them is illegal.

The issue is whether the woman he gave quaaludes to knew she was be given the drugs or were they given without her consent. That isn't answered in the sworn testimony. There are a host of possibilities. He slipped her the quaalude without her knowing -- unlikely. He gave her the quaalude but didn't tell her what it was or its effects. He gave it to her and she knew what it was. And probably several other scenarios.

I think there is plenty of evidence that Cosby drugged women and had sex with them. There are credible claims that in some if not all instances, the drug was administered without the woman's knowledge. But is there sworn testimony from Cosby admitting to a criminal act (apart from possession and distribution of a controlled substance)? Not from this transcript.

[pnwmom]

66. Actually, it is illegal to give quaaludes to someone, unless you're a medical person . nt

[onenote]

71. Which is why I said other than possession or distribution he hasn't admitted to a criminal act.

I guess you missed that part. And I took your statements that he had made a sworn admission of criminality to refer to having sex with women against their will not to possessing and distributing drugs.

[Nye Bevan]

30. Are Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld all innocent too?

Court of law and all that....

[Octafish]

37. That is a problem. Maybe if I just ignore it, then it will go away.

How's your future doing? More wars without end for profits without cease?

[stevenleser]

43. No, there were apparently no wars for profits because no one was convicted. You shouldnt be

saying that, according to your own principles as you have articulated them here.

[Octafish]

50. Do you know what ''sophistry'' means?

Cover art by Gary Trudeau for Lies Of Our Times - A Magazine to Correct the Record, published between 1990-1994.

[stevenleser]

51. Do you know what "hoisted by your own petard" means? nt

[Octafish]

69. Tell me about it.

Oh wait.

[stevenleser]

31. The BFEE has never been convicted of anything. So now I expect you will argue anytime they are

accused of anything that they are "innocent until proven guilty!"

Shout it to the rooftops!!!

[Octafish]

40. Where did I say we should ignore criminality?

Is that the only way you can "win" an argument, by creating a strawman, stevenleser? Shows what you know.

[stevenleser]

44. There is no strawman, you are undone by your own principles as you have stated them.

If there is a strawman, explain it to us.

[NCTraveler]

34. That is a legal construct.

Not one for personal lives. If you truly attempt to bring that process into your personal life, you are setting yourself and those around you up for pain. No one in society brings "innocent until proven guilty" into their personal lives. It is not possible and would be foolish.

[Octafish]

38. Thanks. I was brought up different, I guess.

I remember "Innocent until proven Guilty."

If that's not your thing, I've got no problem with you.

If you were on TV claiming to represent Democrats, though, that's another thing.

[stevenleser]

46. You were brought up with a courtroom in your parent's house? Were you never punished for anything?

I mean, your parents must have been really busy having to haul you to a courtroom everytime they suspected you of taking a cookie to which you weren't entitled.

[pnwmom]

47. Octafish, Cosby swore, in a legal deposition, that he had acquired quaaludes

so that he could give them to women he wanted sex with; and that he did give them to at least one woman.

He convicted himself with his own words.

[bettyellen]

73. Lol- you don't apply it to the banksters and Cheney- or whoever you think killed Kennedy!! Lol

Full of baloney, you are.
Rape apology is disgusting- but not surprising though.

[Octafish]

75. Where did I ''apologize for rape'' or a rapist, bettyellen?

You are smearing me.

73. Lol- you don't apply it to the banksters and Cheney- or whoever you think killed Kennedy!! Lol

Full of baloney, you are.
Rape apology is disgusting- but not surprising though.

I just showed where you're full of balloney.

So, if I'm full of baloney, show where.

[Octafish]

77. FYI: There's nothing funny about the assassination of President Kennedy. Ask Poppy Bush.

Poppy Bush warned FBI -- AFTER -- JFK assassinated.

In the hour of the death of President John F. Kennedy, Texas oilman George Herbert Walker Bush named a suspect to the FBI in a "confidential" phone call. He then added he was heading for Dallas. Skeptics need not take my word for it, that's what Poppy told the FBI:



Here's a transcript of the text:

TO: SAC, HOUSTON DATE: 11-22-63

FROM: SA GRAHAM W. KITCHEL

SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT;
ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT
JOHN F. KENNEDY

At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas.

BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks, the day and source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston.

BUSH stated that PARROTT is possibly a student at the University of Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Mrs. FAWLEY, telephone number SU 2-5239, or ARLINE SMITH, telephone number JA 9-9194 of the Harris County Republican Party Headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding the identity of PARROTT.

BUSH stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on 11-23-63. His office telephone number is CA 2-0395.

# # #

Gee. Why was Poppy Bush in Dallas when JFK was assassinated?

Could it be, he was on official business? I suspect he was on Secret Government business. After all, his eldest son bragged during his Texas Air National Guard and Harvard grad school days that his daddy was CIA.

Here's an FBI document from the same week of the assassination in which FBI Director J Edgar Hoover briefed one "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency." Some strange coincidence there, wot?



Here's a transcript of the above:

Date: November 29, 1963

To: Director
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Department of State

From: John Edgar Hoover, Director

Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
NOVEMBER 22, 1963

Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.

Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.

An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.

The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.

# # #

I do remember that GHWB was head of the CIA when the Church Committee was looking into the CIA assassination programs. He made things all friendly-like and turned what had been a serious hunt for truth under previous DCI Colby into another dog-and-pony show that was big on show and light on facts.

Regarding Dallas: Now I don't know if Poppy was a trigger man, was only there to watch what happened or what just happened to be there. I do know Poppy Bush has never explained these memos. He's never even admitted where he was the day JFK was killed.

Seeing how he would go on to become President, as would his dim son, I believe it's vitally important that we learn the Truth.

Why? The United States and the world haven't been the same since November 22, 1963. And not a single major player in the nation's mass media have stepped up and demanded a real investigation. So, it's up to us, We the People.

What's more, Poppy Bush sheltered mass-murdering jet-bombing terrorists like Luis Posada Carriles.

The guy is a player in what criminologists see as a crime family. His father, for the record, was into business with the NAZIs before becoming a big shot in the Senate. And his idiot son was selected 5-4 by a fascist Supreme Court to "serve" as pretzeldent. Show me where I'm wrong about any of that and I'll apologize, bettyellen. Until then, so long.

[bettyellen]

84. Lol- I get it! It's okay for YOU to write pages about who's guilty in conspiracies too numerous to..

Mention and THAT is okay.
But when Cosby admits to details of how he planned to incapacitate women - making his plan serial RAPE for fucks sake!!- were supposed to thinks hey maybe it wasn't.
Sorry dude. He admitted it. Go home with any other theory- it's OVER.

[Octafish]

88. No, you don't get anything about me. Otherwise you'd write about what I wrote.

As a journalist, I support the idea one is innocent until proven guilty in court.

As a citizen of the United States, I support holding the government accountable for its crimes. That's why I write about the crimes of the national security state, in particular.

Reading your interesting replies shows me that you don't have much of an understanding of either point.

[bettyellen]

90. The "crimes" you write about weren't proven in a court of law.

But Lordy you do go one and on (and on and on) about them, don't you? But Cosby gets a pass.

Isn't that special?

[Octafish]

91. Well, when the people breaking the laws make them, all I'm left with is a pen.

Thanks for showing me where you stand on the issues!

[bettyellen]

94. No- you're just using inconsistent logic. I'm guessing you think most criminals shouldn't be

Behind bars unless they're part of the BFFE or 1%?
I seem to remember that from some threads about the prison industrial complex.

[Octafish]

95. What logic? Responding to you?

You never quote what I say, just what you think I said.

bettyellen

73. Lol- you don't apply it to the banksters and Cheney- or whoever you think killed Kennedy!! Lol

Full of baloney, you are.
Rape apology is disgusting- but not surprising though.

That doesn't leave much room for discussion, let alone analysis. Good luck with your logic.

[bettyellen]

96. no one has to quote you because we've all read the endless posts indicting Bush and Cheney....

Over and over and over again. They are burned into our collective brains.
It is notable the extra courtesy you are willing to extend someone who admits he drugs women to rape them. Yeah- he called it sex, but lawfully that makes it rape.

[Octafish]

97. So, you can smear me by accusing me of supporting rapists.

bettyellen (27,622 posts)

73. Lol- you don't apply it to the banksters and Cheney- or whoever you think killed Kennedy!! Lol

Full of baloney, you are.
Rape apology is disgusting- but not surprising though.

But you can't show me where I say anything you say.

[pnwmom]

42. He hasn't been in court because he was rich enough to buy off his accusers.

That case that we KNOW he settled, for example.

But he admitted in his sworn deposition that he gave quaaludes to at least one woman for the purpose of sex.

That is rape, by his own admission.

He isn't innocent.

[lame54]

64. but that's the point...

he will never see the inside of a court room

opinions are not verdicts and he has no immunity from opinions

[Octafish]

68. The problem: The law treats the rich differently from everyone else.

I never wrote you or anyone couldn't voice an opinion.

I wrote Cosby has not been convicted of anything.

What I should have posted on each and every one of the replies in this piece of shit OP:

[font size="7"]I have no respect for sexual predators.[/font size]

[bettyellen]

72. No one is discussing whether he can be convicted - we all know it's impossible....

Funny that that bothers you about Cheney and Wall Street bankers but not one whit about rapists.
Women everywhere thank you a fuck ton for doubting their word- even when forty tell the same story- you enjoy casting doubt.

You have plenty of other opinions about who is guilty- search your conscience to figure out why this is an issue for you.

[Octafish]

74. What do you know about me? You don't even bother to quote what I actually wrote.

What you did was attribute to me things I did not say:

Funny that that bothers you about Cheney and Wall Street bankers but not one whit about rapists.
Women everywhere thank you a fuck ton for doubting their word- even when forty tell the same story- you enjoy casting doubt.

You have plenty of other opinions about who is guilty- search your conscience to figure out why this is an issue for you.

-- bettyellen

Doing so is a smear.

[bloom]

98. I agree with several others.

You normally seem pretty reasonable.

When it comes to what we know about Cosby - I think it is as reasonable to consider him guilty as it is to consider any of the Bushes guilty.

Perhaps you haven't read much about the many reports against him. How many victims does it take? How much of his own corroborating testimony do we need?

And why, all of a sudden do you think the justice system works so well in convicting famous, celebrity rapists - yet you think it is reasonable to proclaim former presidents and others guilty because you decided they were - whether any justice system says so or not?

[benld74]

32. Oh S-N-A-P Whoopie!!

[NCTraveler]

33. It appears as though she is correct with respect to a court of law.

Where she is wrong is in public opinion. It is a distinction few take the time to understand. Innocent until proven guilty is a legal construct. It has no bearing outside of the legal system unless put in place by some group as their own guidelines for finding fault. At this point, it also isn't a snap judgment. The guy is clearly guilty.

[AngryAmish]

35. Then Whoopi has shit for brains

[Snobblevitch]

49. I'm pretty sure Goldberg is paid to make snap judgements

about people every single day that television show she has been on.

[restorefreedom]

67. is she helping o.j. find the real killer?

no one wanted to believe this but at some point, good grief.

[HFRN]

82. oj has checked every golf course in the country

before he went to prison for something else

[KamaAina]

70. Whoopi twang.

[GeorgeGist]

76. Whoopi fucking do.

Why should I care what she thinks?

[Major Nikon]

79. Pill Cosby

[BreakfastClub]

87. LOL good one. nt

[bullwinkle428]

80. She probably still views Mike Vick as an innocent victim too.

[HFRN]

81. maybe it's because he never made an advance on her

and she feels that if he were really 'on the make' he would have

[Katashi_itto]

85. The usual cutting edge, investigative journalism we have come to expect from

our noble poster.

Awesome work.

[davidpdx]

89. As I said in the other thread, I don't think there is any amount of evidence that would lead

Goldberg or others who support Cosby to believe he raped the women. The whole thing has been so thoroughly covered up by Cosby and everyone else involved, which is why he was able to avoid being charged before the statue of limitation. I still think the key to getting some of these people (including Cosby) is the cover-up.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

93. and once proven, she'll probably still say "it wasn't rape rape"

like she did for Polanski.

She's an imbecile, like pretty much everyone to ever appear on that Barbara Walters trainwreck (except Joy Behar).

[Tatiana La Belle]

99. Technically, legally that is true: Cosby hasn't been proven guilty in a court of law

At this point, though, there are just too many of these stories to keep her head in the sand. Eventually Whoopi is going to have to look at things the way they are.

[SidDithers]

100. Kick, for shits and giggles...

Sid

[randys1]

101. A "Comic Relief" performance by Jeff Ross (toastmaster) included his observing Whoopi rudely

yelling at one of the producers during the show.

Jeff told the story to someone,, Whoopi got word and sent Jeff a gift basket with a note

"Dear Jeff, you dont have to be a fan but you do have to get your facts straight, I did not and never have chewed out a director or producer"

He sent a gift basket back "Yes you did, right in front of me"

Personally I havent liked her for a while now.