Tea Party historian says Bible commands humans to work until death: ‘God did not design us for retir

[DonViejo]

Tea Party historian says Bible commands humans to work until death: ‘God did not design us for retirement’

Another conservative has pushed the idea that retirement went against biblical teachings.

David Barton, a Tea Party activist and Oral Roberts University-educated historian who promotes the idea that the United States was founded by evangelical Christians, told a religious right broadcaster that God opposed retirement, reported Right Wing Watch.

“Retirement is not a biblical concept,” Barton said during an appearance Monday on Kenneth Copeland’s “Believer’s Voice of Victory” television program.

“That is a pagan concept that comes from the Babylonian system,” Barton continued. “If you want to live in Egypt, you want to live in Babylon, great — retire. (For) God’s people that is not a model.”

Barton – lauded by Glenn Beck and GOP lawmakers such as Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and former Rep. Michele Bachman (R-MN) – echoed similar claims about the Bible and retirement made by right-wing Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Pastor Rick Warren, and Greg Gianforte — a Koch-backed likely candidate for Montana governor.

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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/tea-party-historian-says-bible-commands-humans-to-work-until-death-god-did-not-design-us-for-retirement/

[Siwsan]

1. Retirement is not a biblical concept? Most things we do aren't a biblical concept.

People didn't LIVE long enough to retire because they worked themselves into an early grave. Honestly, if these people held "true" to everything that's in the Bible, they'd have to split themselves in half to accommodate all of the contradictions!!

[CanonRay]

2. "Oral Roberts edducated"

Stop right there. That is all I need to know.

[PaddyIrishman]

10. Oxymoron

You can go to Oral Roberts or you can be educated.

BTW what kind of idiot calls their son "Oral"? Even Johnny Cash didn't go that far.

[KamaAina]

15. As is "Tea Party historian"

[NorthCarolinaL]

40. I was thinking that too.

Attention spans are so short these days, that 10 years ago is somehow considered some long term history. Article should have said something like Tea Partier AND historian; however, these websites are so desperate for business that they'll skew things for business. Or, the writers are often very horrible to the point of being sloppy and/or not knowing style elements like punctuation.

Anyway, the idea of working in older age is not a monopoly of so-called evangelicals. Doing some type of work when older gives on purpose. Sitting back and doing nothing leads to decay, especially when you stop moving.

My wife is from another country. Her family members are mostly sustenance farmers. My father-in-law worked well into his eighties. Their labor is valued. Their wisdom is valued. They are not shelved in retirement homes like in the US. They are still an integral part of the family.

Industrial society, mobility, etc. has resulted in us throwing away older people. It's the force of history sometimes, but people still need to have purpose in their older ages. People here are thrown away and forgotten and given a check. It's like the parent who does not want to spend time with his kids, but gives him material objects.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

32. Oxymoron? Is that someone who says stupid shit because they're hooked on Oxycontin?

I thought the ReichWing preferred meth and alcohol.

[hifiguy]

20. No shit. Just another reichwing diploma mill.

"Joe's Bar/Grill and College" has more academic cred.

And wasn't life expectancy in the Iron Age only about 35-45 years.

Whatta maroon.

[DetlefK]

3. Well, God DID design us in a way for us to walk around naked and without shame.

Which is why we should all do this.




And AFAIR diapers are also no biblical concept... Let 'em little shitters roam free!

[ljm2002]

4. See,that's the great thing about religious freedom...

...he is free to live his beliefs, and I am free to live mine.

Since his beliefs do not include retirement, he is free to work until he drops dead.

My beliefs, on the other hand, do not preclude retirement, so I am free to retire.

Funny how that works.

Oh, yeah, and: this country is not a theocracy, you unAmerican jerkoff!

[d_r]

27. Being a right wing

Historian doesn't really sound like hard work.

[earthside]

5. Work in heaven/paradise, too.

Oh yeah.

If you are obedient enough, faithful enough and good enough ... you get to work in the right-wing Christian heaven, too!

http://www.lifeway.com/Article/pastor-Questioning-heaven

Will we work?

The idea of working in heaven is foreign to many people. Yet Scripture clearly teaches it. When God created Adam, he "took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it" (Genesis 2:15). Work was part of the original Eden. It was part of a perfect human life.

God Himself is a worker. He didn't create the world and then retire. Jesus said, "My Father is always at His work to this very day, and I, too, am working" (John 5:17). Jesus found great satisfaction in His work. "‘My food,' Jesus said, ‘is to do the will of Him who sent me and to finish His work'" (John 4:34). We'll also have work to do, satisfying and enriching work that we can't wait to get back to, work that'll never be drudgery. God is the primary worker, and as His image-bearers, we're made to work. We create, accomplish, set goals, and fulfill them - to God's glory.

What kind of work will you do in heaven? Maybe you'll build a cabinet with Joseph of Nazareth. Or with Jesus. Maybe you'll tend sheep with David, discuss medicine with Luke, sew with Dorcas, make clothes with Lydia, write a song with Isaac Watts, ride horses with John Wesley, or sing with Keith Green.

[hifiguy]

21. Proof: They ARE Ferengi. nt

[NightWatcher]

6. I love when religious types expect non-religious types to be impressed by "bible says".

Not only do I think your deity is made up in people's imagination, I also believe that your book was written by many men who used it to control the gullible.

"Bible says" gives your argument no credibility, power, or truth. It's a book. So are Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Horton Hears a Who, and Madonna on Sex.

[Populist_Prole]

11. Great post

Every word.

[yellowcanine]

25. Not only that, when most of these dudes say, "The Bible says...." if one actually reads it

one finds out it does not say what they say it says at all.

[Orsino]

7. It's as though God designed David Barton for retirement. n/t

[Archae]

8. Barton has zero credibility...

And is still falling.

Not only has his "history" been discredited, he claimed to be on the champion Oral Roberts basketball team.
He wasn't.

He claimed to be a translator for the 1976 Russian gymnastics team.
He wasn't.

He claimed to have smuggled Bibles into Russia.
He didn't.

[yellowcanine]

26. He claimed to have smuggled Bibles into Russia. Maybe he took them to Sarah's house in Alaska.

Almost the same thing, right?

[Gothmog]

9. David Barton is a joke and is not a historian or a scholar

[WillyT]

12. LOL !!!

& Rec !!!

[CTyankee]

13. just when you think he republicans can't get more ridiculous...

hey, idiots, way to make yourselves popular with the voting public! Please proceed...

[lpbk2713]

14. Yup. Says it right there in English.

Sure enough. They all spoke Amurkin 3000 years ago.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

16. So when will the 1 percenters start working?

Or do they contend that sitting around the pool. sipping martinis, and waiting for their stock investments to come in constitute work?

[jwirr]

18. Of course that is work - they are networking.

[jwirr]

17. Oral Roberts is a so called faith healer. When you got old Oral around you can't get old. He heals

you.

[yellowcanine]

23. Unless you retire. Than you die within 3 years, according to David Barton.

Or maybe turn into a pillar of salt.

[jwirr]

28. LOL

[yellowcanine]

33. An example of Joe Barton's Scientific Reasoning....... No comment necessary.

"I would point out that if you're a believer in the Bible, one would have to say the Great Flood is an example of climate change and that certainly wasn't because mankind had overdeveloped hydrocarbon energy," Barton added.

A former chairman of the full House Energy and Commerce Committee and a leading Republican voice on energy policy, Barton has expressed skepticism about man-made global warming in the past. In 2009, he tried to argue that carbon emissions are harmless to the environment, noting how prevalent carbon dioxide is in everyday life.

"CO2 is not a pollutant in any normal definition of the term," Barton said in an interview on C-SPAN.

"It's in your Coca-Cola, your Dr. Pepper and your Perrier water. It's necessary for human life," he continued. "It's odorless, colorless, tasteless, doesn't cause cancer, doesn't cause asthma."

[yellowcanine]

35. Oops, wrong Barton. Never mind.

[blue neen]

19. Unfortunately, it seems that God designed some people to be sanctimonious morons.

David Barton included.

[yellowcanine]

22. He is not a historian. He is a "history author." Not the same thing.

He has a B.A. in Religious Education from ORU. His claim to fame is writing revisionist history about the origins of the separation of church and state. Basically he makes up shit.

[Baitball Blogger]

24. The more they open their mouths, the more they reveal their

twisted agendas.

[arcane1]

29. This is a perfect example of corporate-funded "religious" instruction.

It's not about the bible at all.

[Avalux]

30. No - the powerful command the rest of us to work to death.

God - at least what I think of as god, wants us to play and create and cooperate and take care of other - ENJOY our short lives and this amazing planet.

What are we striving for anyway...we spend all our days working to survive, yet when we die, none of it matters, and we don't get a redo.

There is a better way, and it's NOT working until we die. Our current economic and social belief systems must change.

Barton and his ilk can f*ck off.

[Sparhawk60]

31. For Every Thing There Is a Season

To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under the sun. A time to sow and a time to reap.


A time to work, a time to retire (if you are lucky)

[ProfessorGAC]

34. Now You've Done It

Quit turning his own deal around on him. You'll have to repent, or something. Not sure what folks like him really want everyone else to do.

[Vinca]

36. So that's why every GOP POTUS ruins the economy.

Thanks to 43 I imagine I will be working until I drop dead . . . and I'm an atheist.

[yellowcanine]

37. Barton also believes life begins before conception. Bad news for all of you monkey spankers.

You know who you are. Mass murderers!

12. Life Begins Before Conception

Barton has said that life doesn’t begin at conception, but actually “life begins before conception.” Not surprisingly, Barton believes that abortion rights will lead to socialism and that abortion is banned under the Seventh Amendment. The Seventh Amendment reads: “In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise re–examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.”

- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/15-things-you-need-know-about-david-barton-man-who-could-be-texass-next-senator#sthash.8c0fFPhS.dpuf

[yellowcanine]

38. David Barton should team up with Donald Trump to smuggle Bibles to Mexico!

His Russian would come in handy.

[yellowcanine]

39. Mike Huckabee thinks all Americans should have to listen to David Barton at gunpoint.

Not the Onion.
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/3/30/155256/894

[tanyev]

41. So he wants the GOP voting base to get off their duffs, stop watching FOX news, and go find a job?

[B Calm]

42. What kind of hard work does this asshole do!

[awoke_in_2003]

43. Yet slavery and polygamy

are biblical concepts. I guess he wants to bring those back.