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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:05 AM Jul 2015

Giuliani Defends Trump: His Remarks Don't 'Reflect' On Trump 'As A Man'

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During an interview with MSNBC at the Hank’s Yanks Golf Classic at Trump Golf Links, Giuliani called Trump "a very good man" and "an unbiased, unprejudiced man." Giuliani said he believed Trump meant to say that most undocumented immigrants just come to the U.S. to work.

"But then, because people can come in illegally, terrorists, drug dealers, rapists, murderers, all of whom I’ve prosecuted at one time or another, are able to get in," he added. "I would have said it differently, but I do think he’s gotten onto an issue that’s important, which is making our border secure."

"We’ve failed at it for quite some time and we need to have a plan so that we stop people from coming into this country without identifying themselves. Even if most of them are good people, if a few of them can set off bombs, if a few of them can kill people like one did over the weekend, if a few of them can rape people, then what are we doing?” Giuliani continued.

The former mayor said Trump "hit on the right point."

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Giuliani Defends Trump: His Remarks Don't 'Reflect' On Trump 'As A Man' (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
That's convenient el_bryanto Jul 2015 #1
Well, 9iu11ani too madokie Jul 2015 #3
They do reflect on him as a Fascist. Octafish Jul 2015 #2
The fuck they don't. Adrahil Jul 2015 #4
I was going to say, "Oh, yes... 3catwoman3 Jul 2015 #8
Rudy is still holding out hope for the Veep slot. bullwinkle428 Jul 2015 #5
Can't happen with a Trump presidency leftynyc Jul 2015 #6
Unbiased and unprejudiced? LOL! City Lights Jul 2015 #7
Two assholes ... GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #9
I agree with Giuliani... brooklynite Jul 2015 #10
two peas in a pod. giuliani is as despicable as trump spanone Jul 2015 #11
With all the talk about immigration, I always wonder what today's American Indians are thinking. Frustratedlady Jul 2015 #12
"a few of them can rape people" aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2015 #13
Oooh. I see the confusion now. The GOP thinks racist speech is code for love and understanding. Solly Mack Jul 2015 #14

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. That's convenient
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:08 AM
Jul 2015

Does the theory that saying stupid hurtful racist things don't reflect on the character of a person apply to everybody, or just to Trump?

Bryant

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
4. The fuck they don't.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jul 2015

My Dad was pretty old fashioned. But he did have words of wisdom.

People cannot see inside you. They determine who you are by what you say and what you do. Make sure you presenting yourself as you wish to be known, because to the world, that is who you are.

3catwoman3

(24,006 posts)
8. I was going to say, "Oh, yes...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jul 2015

...they do," but I like your wording much better.

As a counter to the old saw, "You can't judge a book by its cover," I have long thought that if I see a book with a virile man clasping a buxom woman to his chest, I can be pretty certain it is not a math book, a how-to-do-your-taxes book, or a cook book.

I think it was Maya Angelou who said, "When people show you who they are, believe them."

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
12. With all the talk about immigration, I always wonder what today's American Indians are thinking.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jul 2015

After all, they were the first people who experienced immigration in the US.


Many of us seem to have a short memory.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
13. "a few of them can rape people"
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jul 2015

Giuliani cannot salvage what Trump said. Trump never said it was just "a few" illegals committing rape. His comment made it seem like most if not all Mexicans coming over the border were rapists:

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said. "They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists."

It sounds like Trump was saying they are all potential rapists in the absolute. To compound the problem, Trump said some Mexicans MAY be good people. That doesn't sound like he's convinced that any of them are good people.

I think there are very valid arguments to be made in favor of controlling our borders. Every country on Earth has a right to inspect who is entering that country. It's the will of the American people, through its government that has decided that no single nation can exceed 7% of total annual immigration through legal immigration (with certain limited exceptions). By ensuring limits on immigration from any one nation, it keeps the United states as a melting pot with peoples coming from all over the world. It's unhealthy for a nation to have too many immigrants of any one single foreign culture or foreign national background. But what Trump said was racist and ugly. I think Trump's inflammatory comments will prevent any rational debate of the important issue of immigration.

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