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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 07:33 AM Jul 2015

US jets intercepted Russian bombers off the California and Alaska coasts on July 4

On July 4th, two pairs of Russian Tupolev Tu-95 bombers approached the US West coast, causing the Air Force to scramble to intercept the planes before they breached US airspace.

Fox News reports that the first incident occurred at 10:30 am ET off the coast of Alaska, when NORAD identified the Russian planes and two F-22s hurried to intercept them. Another incident occurred at 11 am ET off the coast of central California, and was responded to by two F-15s.

The Russian bombers they intercepted are capable of carrying nuclear weapons, but sources do not indicate whether or not they were armed.

The Air Force intercepted the bombers before they entered America's sovereign air space, which extends 12 miles out from the coast, but the presence of the bombers is an ominous sign during the heightened tensions between Russia and the US.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-jets-intercepted-russian-bombers-off-the-california-and-alaska-coasts-on-july-4/ar-AAcDwdA

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US jets intercepted Russian bombers off the California and Alaska coasts on July 4 (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jul 2015 OP
IOW: Russians add sense of realism to wildly jingoistic national celebration HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #1
LOL: Russians do something bad is an excuse for you to criticize the U.S.! stevenleser Jul 2015 #2
What was bad? The US does surveillance too. Most recently the stories are HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #3
Not with Russia Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #4
" " " " " n/t MBS Jul 2015 #6
IIRC Russia has been doing this off and on since Putin ascended... HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #8
Surveillance? Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #12
In part, but the story about why the story was told is another significance HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #13
The Russian Bears were there to be provacative. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #15
Tu-95s are not surveillance aircraft. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #17
And like the B-52's ... lpbk2713 Jul 2015 #20
uggh. MBS Jul 2015 #5
Be afraid, very, very afraid. Scuba Jul 2015 #7
That's what I was thinking. -none Jul 2015 #11
Saber rattling. mmonk Jul 2015 #9
Russia can see... peace13 Jul 2015 #10
Russia is well ahead of us in that particular race. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #14
FOX News reports. eom GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #16
testing how far they can get before intercept. data collection. Takket Jul 2015 #18
This is propaganda generated by the Pentagon. Sam_Fields Jul 2015 #19

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
1. IOW: Russians add sense of realism to wildly jingoistic national celebration
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 07:41 AM
Jul 2015

I am quite sure the MIC appreciates the Russian presence. Without them we'd have to invent an enemy like ... a threat of Chinese participation in international finance.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. What was bad? The US does surveillance too. Most recently the stories are
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 08:04 AM
Jul 2015

about the US flying surveillance against China and having ships near N Korea.

Nations, including us, push aircraft and naval vessels up against exclusion zones regularly.

This isn't new or particularly scary; it's pretty routine.













 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. Not with Russia
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 08:06 AM
Jul 2015

We both stopped that decades ago. Russia restarted that last year around the USA and NATO members.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. IIRC Russia has been doing this off and on since Putin ascended...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 08:21 AM
Jul 2015

so nothing new there. It's been more regular since the Ukraine land grab as one might expect.

The US relies heavily on remote sensing, and that helps keep costs down, but we still engage in these activities.

What the Russians did is pretty typical. Reconnaissance tactics have always included options for tripping a response to force exposure of deployment, capability and signals capacity.







HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. In part, but the story about why the story was told is another significance
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:11 AM
Jul 2015

and perhaps the one that as a people we should be paying attention to...

since it was constructed for our consumption and rather likely for the benefit of some someones with a financial interest in promoting the MIC.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
17. Tu-95s are not surveillance aircraft.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

They're the Russian equivalent of the the B-52, strategic bombers.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
20. And like the B-52's ...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jul 2015




Some are being flown by the grandchildren of pilots who flew the same aircraft many years previous.

Yes, the airframe is that old.

-none

(1,884 posts)
11. That's what I was thinking.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 08:55 AM
Jul 2015

More of the same old thing. Why do we go out of our way to make enemies so we can fight them? "We" being our government.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
10. Russia can see...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 08:54 AM
Jul 2015

...that the U.S. is a careening toward becoming a third world country with nuclear weapons. We are held hostage by Senators, Congress people and a media who are largely ignorant and focused solely on lining their own pockets. This is done at the expense of not only Americans but the entire planet. You can bet that we have done the same to protect ourselves from Russia recently and in times past. They practice to send a message to the clowns in DC. They practice because like it or not we appear to be run by an unstable bunch of lunatics!

When we attacked Iraq the gloves came off. We have no right to complain about what other countries do to us or others. It is so sad to see how far things have gone. When we were on the peace line and calling senators about Iraq it would have been nice to have a few more Americans doing the same. There were a handful who tried to stop the madness to no avail. I hope that things can be put right and do not wish ill on this nation but if we get scared when Russia flies near, so be it. If we can't bring sense and reason to DC there will be more of this type of display!

Sam_Fields

(305 posts)
19. This is propaganda generated by the Pentagon.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jul 2015

The US flies along the Russian borders all the time also. This is no big deal and means nothing except to scare the gullible to think that Russia is somehow a threat.

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