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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:13 AM Jul 2015

Whitewash: New Texas history books will downplay slavery, omit KKK and Jim Crow

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/whitewash-new-texas-history-books-will-downplay-slavery-omit-kkk-and-jim-crow/

Social studies books for Texas public schools will minimize the importance of slavery in the Civil War and omit any mention of both Jim Crow laws and the Ku Klux Klan, the Washington Post reported.

Lessons covering the Civil War will list the reasons behind the conflict as being, “sectionalism, states’ rights and slavery,” in that order.

As Business Insider noted, the new textbooks come five years after the state board of education revised the curriculum. Republican board member Pat Hardy stated at the time that he considered slavery “a side issue” in the war.

The books are set to be issued to the state’s 5 million public school students not long after the renewed debate regarding the Confederate flag, spurred by Dylann Roof’s terrorist attack inside a South Carolina church last month that killed nine people, including state Sen. Clementa Pinckney.

“It’s the obvious question, it seems to me,” Texas Freedom Network spokesperson Dan Quinn told the Post. “Not only are we worried about the flags and statues and all that, but what the hell are kids learning?”
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Whitewash: New Texas history books will downplay slavery, omit KKK and Jim Crow (Original Post) Ken Burch Jul 2015 OP
Pat Hardy should read the Texas Declaration of the Causes of Secession Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #1
I doubt he really thinks it... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #2
Actually, I think that was Josef Stalin, but I can see why that crowd Cleita Jul 2015 #4
I'm sure your right ... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #11
I was wrong. It was 1984 author, George Orwell. eom Cleita Jul 2015 #34
I've also seen it attributed to Churchill, Napoleon and Pliny the Elder. N/T Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2015 #36
Maybe Pliny the Elder was the original. n/t Cleita Jul 2015 #37
W & Dick repeatedly said that history will decide underpants Jul 2015 #47
You may be thinking of this quote from noted war criminal Karl Rove: DefenseLawyer Jul 2015 #38
I remember that one... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #43
I knew exactly what he meant underpants Jul 2015 #49
You expect him to read? He doesn't need to. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #30
Of course bluestateguy Jul 2015 #3
Some of my teachers did that back in the fifties. Said the textbooks Cleita Jul 2015 #5
They will be fired BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #6
Or at the very least a generation of oblivious voters. n/t Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #7
They want ignorant, angry, racists BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #8
Yes sir. Some fight against them, some invest in them. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #12
It's because they keep lighting the fires BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #19
Depends on how scripted the district's curriculum is. Igel Jul 2015 #9
I think any teacher that says the adopted curriculum is wrong BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #10
Which is the historical reason teachers were tenured. So they couldn't be fired for teaching truth on point Jul 2015 #20
Yup BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #21
Maybe if a JackInGreen Jul 2015 #45
How do these people get elected? betterdemsonly Jul 2015 #13
'a side issue' ??? who are these fucking aliens? spanone Jul 2015 #14
I'm still waiting for TX, MO, OK, KS, AZ and the ENTIRE South to secede so we Northerners can vkkv Jul 2015 #15
WI?? ----- where you have Walker and repugs destroying the state Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #32
I can vouch for that Kevin from WI Jul 2015 #46
Stupid Massachusetts voted for a stupid Republican as governor. valerief Jul 2015 #42
well, you cannot control and manipulate a population capable of critical thinking, and possessed niyad Jul 2015 #16
U.S.A. K-12 history textbooks are generally awful already. hunter Jul 2015 #17
In the late 1980s, one of my sons got a brand new world history textbook for 7th grade Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2015 #39
Didn't they ride the first dinosaurs? progree Jul 2015 #40
white privilege heaven05 Jul 2015 #18
Orwell comes to Texas JackInGreen Jul 2015 #22
Texas sure love's it's tall tales. lark Jul 2015 #23
Ignorance is Strength Octafish Jul 2015 #24
The head of the Texas Board of Ed is a RW homeschooler. Avalux Jul 2015 #25
In Texas, the Board of Education likes Moses so much... Ken Burch Jul 2015 #44
Yeah that whole Jewish thing gets a little fuzzy with the bible beaters. Avalux Jul 2015 #53
Jesus would not survive Texas nikto Jul 2015 #59
I love Wonkette's reviews of textbooks. geardaddy Jul 2015 #50
Yes I do too! Avalux Jul 2015 #54
All the good white folk who allow this, and the teachers who don't refuse to teach from it, jtuck004 Jul 2015 #26
Why burn them? Ezlivin Jul 2015 #27
Attention ALL non-voters (lazy, frustrated, pissed, etc.) Scalded Nun Jul 2015 #28
What does it say about a group that doesn't want the truth told about it? Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #29
HOW are the individuals who MAKE textbook decisions PLACED into their roles?? benld74 Jul 2015 #31
The Texas State School Board is elected happyslug Jul 2015 #57
What a whitewash! The Civil War was about slavery. Period. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #33
We went too soft in Reconstruction One_Life_To_Give Jul 2015 #35
Hey, that sounds like the Texas I grew up in circa 1955... CTyankee Jul 2015 #41
This nothing new. They taught me the same thing ... DuckBurp Jul 2015 #48
Here is a link to the Texas Freedom Network's executive summary... xocet Jul 2015 #51
Idiocracy is here randys1 Jul 2015 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #55
I am genuinely curious why you continue to sign up only to get banned again and again and again uppityperson Jul 2015 #64
You cannot know what you have not experienced or have not been taught... kentuck Jul 2015 #56
Sounds like Mission Accomplished nikto Jul 2015 #60
That sounds like the kind of "History" text that would include a 50-page chapter entitled ... nikto Jul 2015 #58
Jesus I wish Texas would fucking secede. IHateTheGOP Jul 2015 #61
Maybe we could do a kickstarter campaign and buy them printers, they could jtuck004 Jul 2015 #62
Pretty soon the history books will show how black people came to America... Stellar Jul 2015 #63
Just another piece of skunk works we will have to undo when we take over kyburbonkid Jul 2015 #65

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
2. I doubt he really thinks it...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:33 AM
Jul 2015

... was a "side issue". It's a deliberate attempt to revise history. When one of Bush's advisors (I've forgotten which one) said "the winners get to write the history books", I should have taken it more literally.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. Actually, I think that was Josef Stalin, but I can see why that crowd
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:22 AM
Jul 2015

would quote him. He would be a secret hero to them being an iron fisted dictator and all. Also, I believe Stalin was quoting an older source yet. But my memory is fuzzy at this time of night.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
11. I'm sure your right ...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 08:23 AM
Jul 2015

... and it's an accurate statement. The textbooks I read back in the 70s were sanitized as well. But with this and the dinosaurs living with men texts, I genuinely feel bad for the children of Texas.

underpants

(182,823 posts)
47. W & Dick repeatedly said that history will decide
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:18 PM
Jul 2015

They were speaking of the history of their fiasco but with their publishing houses and their control of the over spending Texas board I knew what they meant.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
38. You may be thinking of this quote from noted war criminal Karl Rove:
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jul 2015

"That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality."

underpants

(182,823 posts)
49. I knew exactly what he meant
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jul 2015

The right has created a cadre of writers,publishing houses, and a marketing system (RW "news&quot to do just this. Completely retell the story.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Of course
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:39 AM
Jul 2015

Good teachers in Texas could just blow off what's in the state mandated textbook and just say in class that the books are wrong. And write their own exams that ignore what's in the books.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. Some of my teachers did that back in the fifties. Said the textbooks
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:25 AM
Jul 2015

were inaccurate and outdated and gave us reading assignments instead from books available in the library. However, the Texas teachers may not be as free to do so today.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
6. They will be fired
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 04:21 AM
Jul 2015

This is a very serious problem and is a very pointed campaign to raise a new generation of racists.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
8. They want ignorant, angry, racists
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 04:26 AM
Jul 2015

who will support them as they shovel more money up the ladder. It's fucking disgusting. The fact that the nation adopts Texas books should be stopped for this very reason. Ebooks with accurate historical information and science should take over. Our country is really splintering because of these evil people.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
19. It's because they keep lighting the fires
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jul 2015

and we keep running around trying to put them out. What if we took the offense for once?

Igel

(35,317 posts)
9. Depends on how scripted the district's curriculum is.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 05:16 AM
Jul 2015

In some districts, the scope and sequence is squishy. In others, it's outlined virtually day by day and common course materials are used. Still, inevitably something gets lost in the shuffle.

Typically teachers have input into the lock-step course materials, however. It's not like the districts buy a curriculum.


I'd note that the OP is talking about 5th and 7th grades, part of one unit.

It doesn't come up in high school, which I think is a bigger problem.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. I think any teacher that says the adopted curriculum is wrong
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 05:23 AM
Jul 2015

will have cause to be fired. Especially if they are defying the rw slant. I don't think teachers should have to put their careers on the line. We should make sure that lying in text books is illegal. How we do that, I don't know. If they put Holocaust denial in a textbook, would that be ok? How can we allow them to deny the fact of slavery?

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
45. Maybe if a
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 02:21 AM
Jul 2015

Majority did and weren't tarred and feathered for their trouble. Id love to see it but I think it'd turn out poorly.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
13. How do these people get elected?
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

What is wrong with TX voters? It is shitty so many businesses move their operations to Tx and force their employees to put up with this.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
15. I'm still waiting for TX, MO, OK, KS, AZ and the ENTIRE South to secede so we Northerners can
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jul 2015

finally get going on that BORDER FENCE.

The North has enough sensible, leftist voters to rule over any WI, MT, NV, NE, ME or UT Wingnuts.

Kevin from WI

(184 posts)
46. I can vouch for that
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:29 AM
Jul 2015

All that will be left when Walker's done is smoldering ash... and that is what he hopes to share with the nation. If Walker becomes president you will see the death of a nation. The country will go up in flames and the Koch brothers will supply the fuel.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
16. well, you cannot control and manipulate a population capable of critical thinking, and possessed
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jul 2015

of accurate information and knowledge.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
39. In the late 1980s, one of my sons got a brand new world history textbook for 7th grade
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

I started leafing through it, and quickly found an error of fact. I looked at it more closely, and found over a dozen, many of them quite stupid (the poet Byron's name was not "George Gordon Byron"; nor are "Shogun" and "Mikado" synonymous).

I had a biology textbook in high school that did not mention the names Charles Darwin or Gregor Mendel.

progree

(10,908 posts)
40. Didn't they ride the first dinosaurs?
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 06:02 PM
Jul 2015
I had a biology textbook in high school that did not mention the names Charles Darwin or Gregor Mendel.


 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. white privilege
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jul 2015

at it's starkest hatefulness. What a joke texas is but hell didn't a majority vote for cruz? What can be expected. The kids will continue to be ignorant of truth, therefore can't challenge lies and they'll learn Orwellian think-speak.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
22. Orwell comes to Texas
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jul 2015

Or "How I learned to stop worrying and love hating everyone else". The levels of absurdity are mindblowing.

lark

(23,102 posts)
23. Texas sure love's it's tall tales.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jul 2015

Guess that even extends to history books now? Aren't they the state that also added Creationism to all their science books statewide? Is there no room for the truth in that giant state?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Ignorance is Strength
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jul 2015

Wonder if they'll skip the bits about America's presidents lying America into war, especially the big batch outta Texas.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
25. The head of the Texas Board of Ed is a RW homeschooler.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jul 2015

In the new state issued history book, Moses and the ten commandments are tied to our founding fathers and the beginning of the United States. It's insanity, and no one can do much about it with people like these in charge of the state. This excerpt from the wonkette article is old, these have since been adopted:

"And so, here are some of the things that Texas textbooks will teach Texas schoolchildren, if they’re adopted by the SBOE in November:

In a section titled “Where did the Founders get their ideas?” one text lists Moses first (the others are John Locke, Charles de Montesquieu, and William Blackstone), and explains what Moses contributed to the Constitution: “A nation needs a written code of behavior.” Also, too, kids will learn this important American History Fact:
During their years of wandering in the desert of the Sinai, Moses handed down God’s Ten Commandments to the Hebrews. These commandments now form the bedrock on which the Jewish, Muslim, and Christian codes of behavior are based. The full account of Moses’ life can be found in the Bible’s Book of Exodus.

Not that “God’s Ten Commandments” is at all an endorsement of religion — it’s just history!

Another text provides a “Biography of Moses” and explains that Moses was “a lawgiver and a great leader. Like the founders of the United States, he helped establish a legal system to govern his people.” Not that the Founders talked much about Moses, but kids have to know this stuff.
And then there’s the world history text that explains that Jesus is where we get the political notion of equality under the law:
Because one of Jesus’s basic principles was the equality of all people in the eyes of God, equality before the law became a central belief within the Judeo­-Christian tradition.

That’s pretty much exactly what nobody said during the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, you know."


http://wonkette.com/560133/new-texas-schoolbooks-moses-wrote-the-constitution-for-slavery-segregation

There's more at the link, if you can keep from screaming your head off.
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
44. In Texas, the Board of Education likes Moses so much...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:20 PM
Jul 2015

...they can ALMOST forgive him for being a Jew...they still wouldn't let him live there, though...

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
53. Yeah that whole Jewish thing gets a little fuzzy with the bible beaters.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:23 PM
Jul 2015

If Jesus from the bible showed up here in Texas, they wouldn't recognize him, they'd call him names and they'd run him out too.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
50. I love Wonkette's reviews of textbooks.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jul 2015

I think their reviews should be a required appendix for any whacky textbook.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
54. Yes I do too!
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jul 2015

They're very well done. I'm glad I don't have kids in school anymore, since I live in Texas. Not all of Texas is horrible though, I actually like where I live, good Democrats running the show here.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
26. All the good white folk who allow this, and the teachers who don't refuse to teach from it,
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:15 PM
Jul 2015

are no less racist that the people who are sending them the book. Sometimes people get too comfortable.

Besides, it takes a village to screw up an education.

That's ok, however. I know a couple of HR folks, and I am sure there are others who have a little game they play, and if you were educated in Texas or Kansas in the past few years, just assume your resume went in the trash. This won't help that. ;rofl:

Wonder if they will remember back on who failed them, and try not to fuck up their own kids?

benld74

(9,904 posts)
31. HOW are the individuals who MAKE textbook decisions PLACED into their roles??
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:42 PM
Jul 2015

WHO appoints them?
HOW can they make textbook decisions for the ENTIRE state of Texas?
How long has this been going on? WHat is the history on this?

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
33. What a whitewash! The Civil War was about slavery. Period.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jul 2015
Lessons covering the Civil War will list the reasons behind the conflict as being, “sectionalism, states’ rights and slavery,” in that order. 


The "sectionalism" was that the South was the section that wanted to keep slavery, and opposed the section of the country that did not. The "state's right" they were fighting for was the "right" to keep slaves. The Civil War was about SLAVERY. And the South fired the first shot at Fort Sumter.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
35. We went too soft in Reconstruction
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 05:34 PM
Jul 2015

Just like Germans learning about the Holocaust. Our kids should be learning what really happened and what all the fighting was about. The whitewashing of our past has been going on for far too long. We can't learn from our mistakes if we refuse to admit what we really did.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
41. Hey, that sounds like the Texas I grew up in circa 1955...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 06:04 PM
Jul 2015

I was in segregated schools all throughout my school years, went East to college and never came back to live there...

DuckBurp

(302 posts)
48. This nothing new. They taught me the same thing ...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:18 PM
Jul 2015

when I was a kid growing up in Texas. That the civil war was all about states' rights. That it was a war of northern aggression. Fortunately most cities in Texas (e.g., Houston, Dallas, San Antonio) are not as slanted as the rural areas.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
51. Here is a link to the Texas Freedom Network's executive summary...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jul 2015
Writing to the Standards:
Reviews of Proposed Social Studies Textbooks
for Texas Public Schools


Reports from the

Texas Freedom Network Education Fund
September 2014


EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Full reports available at tfn.org/TextbookReview

...


Findings
Our reviewers’ broad findings noted below are followed by a listing of specific examples of problems they identified during their examination of the textbooks up for adoption in Texas:

• A number of government and world history textbooks exaggerate Judeo‐Christian influence on the nation’s founding and Western political tradition.

• Two government textbooks include misleading information that undermines the Constitutional concept of the separation of church and state.

• Several world history and world geography textbooks include biased statements that inappropriately portray Islam and Muslims negatively.

...

http://www.tfn.org/site/DocServer/FINAL_executivesummary.pdf?docID=4625

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
64. I am genuinely curious why you continue to sign up only to get banned again and again and again
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jul 2015

Seriously, why? if you'd channel that energy somewhere positive, think of the impact you could make.

I don't expect an answer as that rarely happens, but please think about it.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
56. You cannot know what you have not experienced or have not been taught...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jul 2015

I saw an excerpt on TV yesterday where a black college student in Texas was asked about the Civil War and he did not know what it was? That's scary.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
58. That sounds like the kind of "History" text that would include a 50-page chapter entitled ...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jul 2015

"The Greatness of Reagan".











How much ya' wanna' bet?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
62. Maybe we could do a kickstarter campaign and buy them printers, they could
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:02 AM
Jul 2015

work with any of several orgs and write their own god damn textbook.

I bet it would outsell the ones they buy from the "authorities".

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
63. Pretty soon the history books will show how black people came to America...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:05 AM
Jul 2015

on the mayflower with the rest of the pilgrims and seeking jobs as unpaid laborers.

kyburbonkid

(251 posts)
65. Just another piece of skunk works we will have to undo when we take over
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:16 PM
Jul 2015

Bullshit will eventually rot away. This is where good teachers make a difference.

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