2005 deposition: Bill Cosby admits buying Quaaludes to give women he wanted to have sex with.

[pnwmom]

And admitted to giving them to at least one woman. In other words, he admitted to rape.

The higher they fall . . . .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3151522/Cosby-said-got-drugs-women-sex.html

Bill Cosby admitted in a 2005 deposition that he obtained Quaaludes with the intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with. He admitted giving the sedative to at least one woman.

The Associated Press went to court to compel the release of the documents, and they were made public Monday.

Cosby's lawyers had objected on the grounds that it would embarrass their client.

The 77-year-old comedian was testifying under oath in a lawsuit filed by a former Temple University employee. He testified he gave her three half-pills of Benadryl.

The lawsuit accused Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting the woman at Cosby's home. Cosby's lawyer argued that his client's deposition could reveal details of Cosby's marriage, sex life and prescription drug use.


SNIP

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/bill-cosby-deposition-reveals-he-806963

A decade ago, Bill Cosby admitted under oath that he gave women drugs for the purpose of sex.

In a deposition on September 29, 2005, the comedian was asked, "When you got the Quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these Quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?"

"Yes," responded Cosby.

The document obtained by The Hollywood Reporter was revealed after a Pennsylvania judge agreed to unseal old court filings in a settled case brought by Andrea Constand, who was the first woman to publicly come forward with allegations that he drugged and sexually assaulted her. The settlement happened in the midst of discovery as Cosby confronted charges that there were other women who were victims.

[SunSeeker]

1. The man had a great life and shit all over it. nt

[RadiationTherapy]

2. And, obviously, he shat on and ruined many other lives.

I refuse to make this about him.

[SunSeeker]

4. But it is about him and his actions. He is responsible for ruining all those lives.

He is the one who for years has tried to make it not about him but about the women being crazy and making it up.

[RadiationTherapy]

5. Yeah, but my first thought is not for his life.

Fuck his life. What he did to these women is far more relevant.

[SunSeeker]

7. I agree.

My point was he is not the victim here, despite his lawyer's remarks about how "embarrassing" this deposition release is for him. He did this to himself. He had a great life and ruined it, by ruining the lives of dozens of women.

[Liberal_in_LA]

24. apparently he has been a rapist all during his career, ugh

[JPZenger]

3. If a rich respected celebrity needed to use drugs to get laid, something was very wrong

[bettyellen]

6. Don't confuse rape with "getting laid". He preferred to rape and figured out a

Method. He could have easily found consenting women- some of these women had consented on prior occasions. He didn't want their consent.

[yardwork]

12. Thank you for this excellent post.

Rape is all about having power over another person.

[bettyellen]

15. It makes me nuts when people don't get it.

[NCTraveler]

40. Thank you. nt.

[bettyellen]

43. I think comparing the two is an awful mistake that leads people to think its not so awful.

Almost like punishing the guy is worse than the act itself. It's not sex! Fuck calling it sex!

[pnwmom]

9. He didn't need to. He preferred his women unconscious, which IS very wrong. n/t

[Nye Bevan]

8. OK, for those very few people who still doubt the truth of the accusations against Cosby,

this should finally and definitively remove all of that doubt.

[freeplessinseattle]

10. Oddly silent, now, aren't they? n/t

[stevenleser]

11. Were there folks on DU who doubted? I thought it was mostly RW'ers on RW sites?

[bettyellen]

14. Nope. There were doubters who assumed somehow this was a conspiracy of gold diggers....

But that's the first thing those MRA types think.

[geek tragedy]

17. Yep. Some claiming the victims were racists, others

said they were gold diggers.

[geek tragedy]

18. See this thread for the rape apologists/denialists

really showing their ass.

A couple of banned trolls, but some still here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026068546

[stevenleser]

22. Almost impossible to believe what I was reading.

[LanternWaste]

29. That was frustrating to read. "They have a legacy to destroy..."

That was frustrating to read. "They have a legacy to destroy..."

[shanti]

30. and at least one of the trolls was a woman

[Starry Messenger]

31. And *crickets*

[geek tragedy]

32. well, one of them was a zombie troll and another was banned for calling

Hillary the C-word.

So, fortunately, we are spared their wisdom

[Starry Messenger]

35. Yes, there are a few who are still here though.

Jill Scott admitted she was wrong, it would be nice to seem the same integrity displayed on DU by Cosby's erstwhile defenders here who still are posting.

[stevenleser]

38. Well, at least one of the folks is insisting to me that he is "innocent until proven guilty"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6948993

[Starry Messenger]

41. That one is all kinds of ironic.

I thought he was against the wealthy using their money and prestige to avoid justice. The "BFEE" has never been convicted of anything either...

[stevenleser]

42. Good point, I'll have to mention that... nt

[Octafish]

55. Yours is a very sophisticated smear, Starry Messenger.

I thought he was against the wealthy using their money and prestige to avoid justice. The "BFEE" has never been convicted of anything either...

By your reasoning, I'm disqualified to write about Cosby or the BFEE.

What do you have to say about what I actually have written? Please show where I've intentionally lied or presented information that was not true on DU. Go through my Journal on DU3 or DU2.

If I'm mistaken anywhere, I'll apologize. So, show, otherwise all you are doing is smearing me.

[Octafish]

48. Besides in your mind, where was Cosby convicted, stevenleser?

As far as I know, not in a court of law.



While it may work for Roger Ailes, calling someone a rapist based on what you read in the papers or saw on tee vee doesn't pass for journalism, either.

[stevenleser]

49. Ask the women in this thread that Octafish, if you dare. nt

[Octafish]

50. I asked you.

Do you think a court transcript, quoted in a newspaper, is good enough to state someone is a rapist?

[stevenleser]

51. Ask the women who are at risk for being raped what they think of your position. nt

[Octafish]

53. You don't know the difference, do you?

Understanding the point about being convicted in a court of law is an important distinction for a journalist.

[stevenleser]

54. Here is your chance to argue with people about it. I created a poll to see if folks think what you

and others are saying is acceptable: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026951237

[Octafish]

56. Cowardly way out, stevenleser, having to hide behind another's writing.

Do you think it's proper for a journalist to call a person a rapist who has not been convicted of rape?

[stevenleser]

57. If you are not a coward, face the women who are affected by what you are saying. Simple. nt

[Octafish]

58. I'm asking you.

Do you think journalists should call people "rapists" who have not been convicted of rape?

[stevenleser]

59. I've answered your question 50 different ways. Now face the women you are insulting. nt

[Octafish]

60. Where? Do you think a journalist should call a person a rapist without a conviction in court?

Where did you answer the question? I don't see your answer.

Stating something is so when it is not true is called what?

Do you think journalists should report things that are not true, stevenleser?

[stevenleser]

61. You are the one who brought up cowardice upthread. Face the women whose concerns you are dismissing

if you think you are so brave compared to me.

[Octafish]

62. Wrong, as anyone who can read will see. So, where did you write your answer?

Should a journalist call a person a rapist without a conviction in court?

Your evasion makes it easy for me to call you a lot of things. Journalist isn't one of them.

[kcr]

13. You would think.

I thought of all the people who doubted those women, even after so many came forward.

[restorefreedom]

16. there were still people who doubted?

wow.

[Brickbat]

19. It's good to know what the formula is.

The word of dozens of women, the word of one man.

[cwydro]

20. Sadly, I doubt he was the only one during that time.

Women were just objects in those days.

I bet he learned the Quaalude thing from his show-biz friends.

[yardwork]

26. In those days?

[cwydro]

27. Feel free to disagree. nt

[herding cats]

21. Money and fame won't get him out of his own testimony.

He's a rapist, by his own admission.

The poor man, he was worried about "real, specific threat of serious embarrassment" if his words were made public. I wonder where his worry was for the women he was drugging and raping? I mean beyond their making a fuss and embarrassing him, of course.

[AndreaCG]

23. Went to freeperville to see what they had to say about Cosby

Other than one person who said many people use alcohol to get people to have sex with them, they were not on Bill's side. Not a really big thread though so don't know if it's representative of past ones.

[Hekate]

25. He's not a nice cuddly doctor or a hero/sidekick; he just played them on TV.

What he is is a serial rapist, and all the rest was fake.

I'm so sorry for his victims.

[Stuart G]

28. And every single word on this subject was/is a lie..

I also feel very sorry for his victims..

[Blue_In_AK]

33. I'm sure most rapists are embarrassed when they're caught.

Why should Cosby be spared "embarrassment"?

[realFedUp]

34. His wife's silence

I wonder what their life together is like? Silences, pretending, acting like everything is great? I feel like she is complicit.

[Le Taz Hot]

69. Not any better than when Maria Shriver Schwartahoozits

did. Got up and defended her lying, cheating, scumbag of a husband claiming all those women who told how her Arnie sexually harassed them were liars. And Oprah gave them a whole hour on her show during the recall election but didn't do the same for Gray. It's when I started seeing Oprah for what she really is.

[realFedUp]

36. The victims

There is little in depth coverage of how any action against them affected the rest of their lives.

[Vinca]

37. The thing I really don't understand is simply: why?

He was a celebrity and usually celebrities have to fend off admirers who are more than willing to have sex with them. Why did he become a serial rapist? Very strange.

[bettyellen]

44. It's not sex. stop equating it with sex for fucks sake!!!

[Vinca]

45. Well, it's not checkers.

Instead of being snarky, why don't you offer an answer to my question?

[JTFrog]

63. Because the way we talk about rape is important.

Rape is a crime.

Rape is not sex.

Sex requires consent.

You don't have rape with someone.

[bettyellen]

64. Rape is not sex. If you truly understood that, you'd be able to answer the question yourself.

Sad that you can't figure it out.

[Vinca]

65. It's sad you're so nasty to someone who is definitely not sympathetic to Cosby.

[bettyellen]

66. I'm just straight up correcting the sick and dangerous idea that rape=sex.

That idea is a million times nastier than my responses. It's minimizing rape and you don't seem to even realize it. Jokes about checkers? What the fuck?

[Vinca]

67. My question was about Cosby's motives.

I think you must be a closet Republican . . . you're downright mean.

[bettyellen]

70. You asked why rape when he could easily have sex- as if they were the same thing.

It hasn't dawned on you yet how wrong- and hateful to rape victims- that sounds?
Seriously?

[Vinca]

72. Well that's amusing. I was alerted.

I pondered whether to alert you and then decided people should see what causes people to leave DU.

[Reter]

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[PoliticAverse]

52. Because it is about power and control. Having lots of people want to have sex with you...

isn't the same as being able to force any woman you want to have sex with you.

[Initech]

39. I heard a good solution to the Cosby situation: bankrupt him.

The guy has an estimated net worth of something like $400 million. That money should be divided among his 40+ victims that have come forward since the initial accusation. Then he should be blacklisted from performing stand up comedy again. That would be a fitting and just punishment for what Cosby did.

[HFRN]

47. with records unsealed, that may become possible

as his own words and acts (taking a public hypocritical stance) caused those records to become unsealed (Cosby didn't keep his end of the implied bargain)

i wonder what the effect of unsealing records has on any statute of limitations, ie could the sealed period be added to the length of the statute of limitations?

[HFRN]

46. when you benefit from legal silence, or people just forgetting

you put a sock in it, whenever anything close to that topic comes up, if you want to keep those skeletons in the closet

[Le Taz Hot]

68. After the 4th or 5th accusation

at some point you have to conclude that not ALL of these women were out for money/out of notoriety/crazy/lying and whatever else they accused these women of being/doing.

And I remember PLENTY of DUers accusing the accusers of exactly those things I named and more.