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"I Welcome Their Hatred!" (Original Post) kpete Jul 2015 OP
From back in the good ol' days... CanSocDem Jul 2015 #1
happy days are here again n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #6
Very Telling how those words apply to the current reality of life. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #2
Yep, they're as relevant as about five minutes ago. calimary Jul 2015 #24
In our Punchbowl of democracy Big Money is... chknltl Jul 2015 #36
Hey, thanks! It's kind of a hard-core/metal site. But every vote is appreciated! calimary Jul 2015 #38
I couldn't vote, I think they maybe took it down. chknltl Jul 2015 #39
Here: calimary Jul 2015 #49
That worked, voted Acidic. chknltl Jul 2015 #50
That is a seriously respectable list to be on chade Jul 2015 #58
Awww... thanks, chade! And Welcome to DU! calimary Jul 2015 #59
k&r Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #3
FDR was a great man Gothmog Jul 2015 #4
"I welcome their financial contributions!" -- H. Clinton. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #5
^^^ L0oniX Jul 2015 #9
"I welcome their gullibility!" -- B. Sanders. nt wyldwolf Jul 2015 #14
As if. Maybe you can convince yourself hifiguy Jul 2015 #42
Funny that you would call fighting for our freedoms and liberties as gullible. I guess I would rhett o rick Jul 2015 #57
+1 BeanMusical Jul 2015 #63
So naughty! Ha, ha- appalachiablue Jul 2015 #29
"I welcome their gun nuts !" Bernie Sanders stonecutter357 Jul 2015 #61
LOL. Nice try. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #64
Todays Democrats (Wall Street etc Wing) fredamae Jul 2015 #7
Thanks for the wonderful clip HelenWheels Jul 2015 #8
On the whole? Yes, IMHO... nt jonno99 Jul 2015 #12
Yes, for a fact. My parents schooling through college emphasized much more literature, appalachiablue Jul 2015 #31
A great many of the people back then were not college educated. Most of the adults I grew up jwirr Jul 2015 #46
They had strong public educations and little propaganda. Certainly not the 24/7/365 bald faced BS Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #43
you should put the punchline in your subject line yurbud Jul 2015 #18
Rahm is a cancer tumor on legs yurbud Jul 2015 #19
The ladies were pretty tough back then also! pocoloco Jul 2015 #10
K&R N/T RR2 Jul 2015 #11
History HoosierCowboy Jul 2015 #13
It was a time when blue collar workers joined unions. Nitram Jul 2015 #15
Republicans effectively neutered labor by appealing to blue collar prejudices, but... yurbud Jul 2015 #22
You know, our education system is partly to blame. Nitram Jul 2015 #27
For sure and it's a real shame. I learned much about labor & the progressive era from older appalachiablue Jul 2015 #33
what would happen to a teacher who took it upon themselves to include it? yurbud Jul 2015 #51
Depends on the school Nitram Jul 2015 #62
DLC/Third Way/New Democrats: "We welcome their money, jobs (for ourselves), and their orders." yurbud Jul 2015 #16
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #17
Never more true than today. n/t DirkGently Jul 2015 #20
K&R azmom Jul 2015 #21
Today's dems - 'their hatred makes me pee my pants!' KG Jul 2015 #23
Today's dems, "What would Goldman think? What would Third Way think?" Enthusiast Jul 2015 #25
+1 Spot on again! You always cut right to the heart of the matter- appalachiablue Jul 2015 #35
That hurts my fee fees Facility Inspector Jul 2015 #34
War profiteering................. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #26
The companies doing the profiteering also own the media. GE for example makes the turbines that Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #44
Just as I suspected. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #45
Class traitor HassleCat Jul 2015 #28
+10 appalachiablue Jul 2015 #37
I've always found that interesting rpannier Jul 2015 #56
fantastic voyage in personal denigration polynomial Jul 2015 #30
And that is why they hate him so. Rex Jul 2015 #32
And that's why he needs a top notch 24/7 security detail AikidoSoul Jul 2015 #41
I have been afraid of that also. As long as they think he cannot beat Hillary he is safe but I would jwirr Jul 2015 #47
I'm waiting for the FDR bashers to show up.... blackspade Jul 2015 #40
Obama is no FDR lark Jul 2015 #48
He's my guy! zentrum Jul 2015 #52
"Oderint dum metuant" - Let them hate, provided they fear. DinahMoeHum Jul 2015 #53
" I will work closely with the republicans in congress.... Doctor_J Jul 2015 #54
Where's a leader like FDR when you need them? R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #55
FDR also said.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #60
Hate is never welcomed seveneyes Jul 2015 #65
 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
1. From back in the good ol' days...
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jul 2015


...when Americans could actually NAME the enemies of democracy.



.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
24. Yep, they're as relevant as about five minutes ago.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jul 2015

STILL with the same enemies, though. Big Money. Which genuinely is shit, now that I look at what I just typed. Look at the initials there! Those Big Money people are telling you, by their very name, exactly what they are.

Well, how 'bout that.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
36. In our Punchbowl of democracy Big Money is...
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jul 2015

...definitely the turd.

(BTW clicked on your link to show more support for your kids band but couldn't find anything there relatable. Did learn that Ritchie Blackmore is considering putting something together where he will be playing some of his old Deep Purple songs which is fine by me.)

calimary

(81,322 posts)
38. Hey, thanks! It's kind of a hard-core/metal site. But every vote is appreciated!
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jul 2015

I think we're gonna start easing off there. ACIDIC has been holding its own for TWO MONTHS now!!! Whooda thunkit? We've held our own against Slipknot and Marilyn Manson and Butcher Babies and Disturbed and Lamb of God forcryingoutloud. I notice Nickelback is in there this week. That's an oddity, too.

But THANK YOU for the vote! Btw - I loved Deep Purple back in the day. There was another girl at the college station who got a show and we became friends. She was a groupie. "Specialized" in British bands. She had special "targets" in both Deep Purple and Procol Harum, but Deep Purple was IT for her. Jon Lord. OMG. She was stuck on him!!!! Obviously, she was more - er - um - shall we say - intimately involved than I ever was or would want to be. But I loved their music, and I played some of it on my own radio show. I sent her condolences when he died, three years ago. (Sheesh, just looked it up, that was almost exactly three years ago. July 16th 2012 - he was 71.)

THANK YOU for the vote! Hoping they stick it out for another round, that ends this Friday. Then we're gonna ease off. Besides, the song itself, "Chicago," has now pretty much peaked on the radio, so we're looking ahead to what the next single release will be. (Hint: track 9, "Beautiful" is really moving the meter with industry insiders to whom we've auditioned it. We're getting some stunning reaction to it! So I think that's the next one. Taking a risk here - it's a ballad, not a full-on rocker. It's definitely a "chick song". But hey, Styx broke it wide open with "Lady" once upon a time, and they were hard rockers, too. And they did JUST FINE after that!)

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
39. I couldn't vote, I think they maybe took it down.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 01:39 PM
Jul 2015

When I clicked on your link, instead of being able to vote, (which you already know I would enthusiastically have done), I found this:


This is somewhat embarrassing, isn’t it?



Sorry, we couldn't find what you were looking for, but please enjoy these articles from Loudwire


Read More: Nothing found for Battle-royale-lamb-of-god-slipknot-video-countdown - | http://loudwire.com/battle-royale-lamb-of-god-slipknot-video-countdown/-?trackback=tsmclip


Let me know if I screwed up and I'll go back and vote for your kid's band. They are THAT GOOD and I've no problem voting for them on their talent alone. Hanging in there with the likes of Slipknot, Marilyn Manson and Disturbed is proof of their abilities and such talents deserves a world stage.

Regarding Deep Purple, as a teen I got hooked on them when their 'IN ROCK' album came out. I saw them shortly after. I LOVE 'Sweet Child In Time', especially the guitar solo by Ritchie Blackmoor-(sp?). I've come to appreciate many other types of guitar styles since but that song still moves me.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
49. Here:
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jul 2015
http://loudwire.com/battle-royale-lamb-of-god-slipknot-video-countdown/

I'll post this and then try it. And then I'll report back.

Okay, I just tried it. It took me straight there. I'll have to check my sig line and make sure I have it correctly there. Thanks for the heads-up!

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
50. That worked, voted Acidic.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jul 2015

Was that the right band? Listened to them all again and that's how I voted anyway. I liked Slipknot quite a bit, probably could have voted for that one instead but...well it's doubtful I'll be getting tickets from you to see Slipknot next time they come to my area.

I saw that I could vote again and again, once per hour. I'll try calimary but truth be told my eyes are growing weary after these past few hours doing my 'Tour of Duty' here at DU KnRing everything Bernie*

*(That bit of sarcasm stems from a thinly veiled complaint directed at DU members who vote for things they think need KnRing around this place, who do so lately with much enthusiasm! Lost on the complainer is the fact that DU is ten to one in favor of the one getting all those KnRs....or maybe that's why the 'complaint' was posted.)

Edited to add: Probably need to cut this off-topic subthread short because it aint even remotely close to the topic in the OP.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
59. Awww... thanks, chade! And Welcome to DU!
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:30 AM
Jul 2015

Glad you're here! Thank you! I am hoping we don't fall out of the Top Ten this week - heavy new influx of strong challengers! YOIKS!!! Your help is much appreciated!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
57. Funny that you would call fighting for our freedoms and liberties as gullible. I guess I would
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:14 AM
Jul 2015

rather be gullible and free than a slave to the billionaires.

Sen Sanders is the people's choice and not the billionaires'.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
7. Todays Democrats (Wall Street etc Wing)
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jul 2015

"Hate Progressives"

Remember Rahm Emanuals little Freudian Slip? (paraphrasing) "The Liberals are Eff'n Retarded"?

Oh, Yes, I Welcome Their Hatred!

At Least Progressives/Populist Wings are Finally Getting Some Response from The Arrogant Democratic Elitists!

Here is the Tape from FDR:

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
31. Yes, for a fact. My parents schooling through college emphasized much more literature,
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

reading, classics and humanities for sure. And they walked much more, didn't sit on computers or watch TV for hours and eat mass amounts of sugar and processed toxic food in suburbia. So they were much more active naturally, healthy and connected to nature. Also their generation wasn't besieged by non stop commercialism and consumerist culture or shopping mall mania although they appreciated nice things. What a difference a generation and a president make, namely Ronald 'Dutch' Reagan.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
46. A great many of the people back then were not college educated. Most of the adults I grew up
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jul 2015

around had quit school in the eighth grand to help out on the farm during the depression or like my mother after a few years of high school to get married. Their link to the outside was the radio and newspapers. But they had a very real education on economics during the depression. Most of them lived what we have forgotten today. They also did not have faux news. What they were reading in the newspapers was about the real situation - not some made up fantasy. When they were in school they were taught to use reason and logic to think things through.

They were far from dumb. 98% of them were rural and 2% urban. They had a different type of knowledge. And when the depression hit they worked together. The small banker in their community was not like what we have today - he was their cousin and their neighbor and if his community was in trouble so was he.

They were just ordinary people who realized that the trouble they were in was nationwide and economic. When FDR came along he talked sense to them and told them the truth.

And in every community was someone who was hogging all the money and cared little about anyone else. My dad told the story about the young farm boys who were hired to work on the big farm owned by a neighbor - who was the richest man in the area - he paid all of them $1 a day. In the 50s all of them who had worked for him were small struggling renters while he was buying up one failed farm after another. When FDR talked about welcoming their hate - it was this man they were thinking of.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
43. They had strong public educations and little propaganda. Certainly not the 24/7/365 bald faced BS
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jul 2015

we have today!

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
13. History
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jul 2015

repeats itself, because the same forces that create history have always been with us. Greed, arrogance, and the notion that the ends justify the means.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
15. It was a time when blue collar workers joined unions.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 10:54 AM
Jul 2015

Then the right used the red scare to frighten workers and make them believe communism was the greatest threat to America. Reagan took it one step further to make them believe liberals were communists and therefore evil, subversive and hated America. that's why people vote for the GOP and against their own economic interests.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
22. Republicans effectively neutered labor by appealing to blue collar prejudices, but...
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jul 2015

a lot of those prejudices are much weaker in younger generations.

Labor just has to make the pitch in terms those younger people can understand.

Having been involved in the labor movement, that might be harder than it sounds.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
27. You know, our education system is partly to blame.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jul 2015

We do not learn anything about the labor movement, or the role labor played in America's history.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
33. For sure and it's a real shame. I learned much about labor & the progressive era from older
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jul 2015

friends, reading, films and documentaries. But I always knew the labor mvmt.'s importance and allied with workers.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
62. Depends on the school
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jul 2015

But if the state tests kids on SOLs, parents could very well complain about it because it is not a topic on the test.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
26. War profiteering.................
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jul 2015

Why has war profiteering been completely ignored by the media?

There were some instances of war profiteering reported on during the Iraq War. But mostly they have been downplayed. Is this one of the newly acceptable crimes, like Wall Street fraud? Used to be war profiteering was considered a very serious offense.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
44. The companies doing the profiteering also own the media. GE for example makes the turbines that
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jul 2015

power our Navy, among other things. They also own a majority of our national politicians!

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
28. Class traitor
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jul 2015

As FDR was climbing his political ladder, corporate interests failed to take note of his policy direction. They assumed he was one of them because he came from wealth. Later, when they realized he was a class traitor, they branded him a socialist and a communist. Too late, boys. My personal opinion is he was our greatest president. When you consider the challenges he faced when he took office, it's stunning. Sure, Obama had to fix the wreckage of GW Bush, and we see that as pretty challenging, but it pales in comparison to the depression and the rise of fascism facing FDR. Not to mention WWII.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
56. I've always found that interesting
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jul 2015

as it showed a total disconnect on the part of the monied classes
His cousin Theodore Roosevelt also had little sympathy for the uber rich
I'd have thought they'd have been a little more aware
But, as a friend of my father's often said, "Bankers and people in finance are not the brightest of bulbs."

polynomial

(750 posts)
30. fantastic voyage in personal denigration
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jul 2015

Our current political common sense appears to be rhetorically lopsided with in a media zoo favoring the rich.

The more reading about Roosevelt the more impressed, whereas many have a difficult time to admit that history. Franklin was a Mason, or Grand Master of this secret society.

From my reading Masons are relational to the Illuminati. Read Dan Brown the “Da Vinci code”, or Marc Goodman the “Future Crimes”.

Yet Wiki delivers some interesting comments that appear to be true.

Especially, about Eleanor Roosevelt in her passionate endeavors for Human Rights. Including Doris Kerns Goodwin implications Eleanor was Gay.

There is a radiance in the disappointment suggested by Eleanor of the Democratic support for William Averell Harriman, from the largest inherited fortune in America.

Harriman's main properties included Brown Brothers & Harriman & Co, and the Union Pacific Railroad. Notable employees included George Herbert Walker and his son-in-law Prescott Bush.

War seizures undertaken, The Trading With the Enemy Act (enacted October 6, 1917) classified any business transactions for profit with enemy nations illegal, and any funds or assets involved subject to seizure by the U.S. government.

The declaration of war on the U.S. by Hitler led to the U.S. government order on October 20, 1942 to seize German interests in the U.S. which included Harriman's operations in New York City.

With that said is our media that corrupt to skip over important commerce and safety violations with business partnerships in wars that seem to be the methods of operandi of the Bush to include business partnerships with the Bin Laden family via Herbert Walker Bush and George Bush now can be categorized as real felons.

Ground zero, or from an incident planned and held open to action leaves America to honest proof the Bush family are criminal, and too is the media that support them…

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. And that is why they hate him so.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jul 2015

People love to pretend he was a monster with fangs and blood dripping claws (DUers have such imaginations) but the real reason FDR is hated, is because he was anti-monopoly.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
41. And that's why he needs a top notch 24/7 security detail
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 02:00 PM
Jul 2015


I wish I could pay for it. I'm in love with Bernie and so are many others, with numbers growing rapidly. That spells danger for the ruling class who would think nothing of hiring covert ops to erase him from the picture.

Bernie -- please get yourself top protection!!!!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
47. I have been afraid of that also. As long as they think he cannot beat Hillary he is safe but I would
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jul 2015

not put it past the Corporations and their stockholders to want him gone.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
54. " I will work closely with the republicans in congress....
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jul 2015

Yep, the ones with the 12% approval rating"

- Hillary Clinton

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
60. FDR also said....
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:46 AM
Jul 2015

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward."

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