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kpete

(72,028 posts)
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:23 PM Jul 2015

The Founders Re: Religion - Speak For Themselves:

“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
- George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia (1789)

“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr (1787)

"In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and both by precept and example inculcated on mankind.”
- Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists (1771)

“Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law. Take away the law-establishment, and every religion re-assumes its original benignity.”
- Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man (1791)

“Congress has no power to make any religious establishments.”
- Roger Sherman, Congress (1789)

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."
- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack (1758)

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people build a wall of separation between Church & State."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Danbury Baptists (1802)

"To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V (1776)

“Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.
- Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom (1779)

"Christian establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects."
- James Madison, letter to William Bradford, Jr. (1774)

"There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness."
- George Washington, address to Congress (1790)

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
- James Madison, General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia (1785)




Agree with their sentiments or not, you simply cannot say that the founders thought they were explicitly founding a Christian nation.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/07/qotd-bunch-of-founders.html
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The Founders Re: Religion - Speak For Themselves: (Original Post) kpete Jul 2015 OP
More and more Americans Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #1
if there was no societal / family pressure Skittles Jul 2015 #3
They could not possibly have been much more clear about the issue, hifiguy Jul 2015 #2
Ha. +1 to that. nt raouldukelives Jul 2015 #4
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
1. More and more Americans
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jul 2015

are breaking away from tyranny in the form of religious dogma.

Let freedom ring!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. They could not possibly have been much more clear about the issue,
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

could they?

Paine's "To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." is probably my favorite just because of the 180 proof snark.

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