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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe candidate that controls the "social media" will win the presidential election.
It happened with Barack Obama in his last two presidential elections. The Republicans had the money but they did not have the organization on the Internet.
The M$M is highly over-rated, in my opinion. There is a new means of communication and those that fail to see it are doomed to lose.
Facebook has become especially popular, even since the last election. This is the future. Those that lag behind will be lost.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I've even seen conservative former classmates share his memes. True, they may not have known who he was, but the message is getting out!
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Granted, that's just my experience, but it's the only experience I have
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)With Facebook's algorithms, we're all seeing what we want to see to some extent
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)For example:
arcane1
(38,613 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)a lot like the polls in Iowa and NH
Good info!
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)and the trend on Facebook is encouraging.
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)Go to the candidate's pages, click on their social media pages, look at the numbers. There's your iceberg.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Bernie has all the time in the world.
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)7 months is what he has. His campaign and followers are banking on Iowa and, to a lesser degree, New Hampshire. He HAS to win one of them because the rest of February and March look like disasters for him.
kentuck
(111,106 posts)That the rest of February and March look like disasters?
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)Saturday, February 20: South Carolina (open primary)
Tuesday, February 23: Nevada caucus
March[edit]
Tuesday, March 1: Alabama (open primary); Arkansas (open primary); Colorado caucuses; Georgia (open primary); Massachusetts; Minnesota caucuses; North Carolina (open primary); Oklahoma; Tennessee (open primary); Texas (open primary); Vermont (open primary); Virginia (open primary);
Saturday, March 5: Louisiana
Tuesday, March 8: Mississippi (open primary); Michigan (open primary)
Tuesday, March 15: Florida; Illinois; Missouri (open primary); Ohio[45]
Tuesday, March 22: Arizona; Utah caucuses [46]
Saturday, March 26: Washington caucuses;Alaska caucuses[47] Hawaii caucus[48]
I don't see him racking up many delegates with that schedule.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)If Hillary had won Iowa, she would have been President
If Obama had won New Hampshire, Hillary would have been immediately on the ropes.
National polls shift radically based on IA and NH.
It is all about momentum.
wyldwolf
(43,868 posts)A win for him in Iowa and/or NH won't do much to move voters with this schedule of mostly southern and western states:
Saturday, February 20: South Carolina (open primary)
Tuesday, February 23: Nevada caucus
March[edit]
Tuesday, March 1: Alabama (open primary); Arkansas (open primary); Colorado caucuses; Georgia (open primary); Massachusetts; Minnesota caucuses; North Carolina (open primary); Oklahoma; Tennessee (open primary); Texas (open primary); Vermont (open primary); Virginia (open primary);
Saturday, March 5: Louisiana
Tuesday, March 8: Mississippi (open primary); Michigan (open primary)
Tuesday, March 15: Florida; Illinois; Missouri (open primary); Ohio[45]
Tuesday, March 22: Arizona; Utah caucuses [46]
Saturday, March 26: Washington caucuses;Alaska caucuses[47] Hawaii caucus[48]
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)we will know after NH
murielm99
(30,754 posts)open primaries. Will Sanders be able to get on the ballot in those states? He is an independent, not a Democrat.
Why should we put an independent on our ballots, when we work so hard to get Democrats elected?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)since about, oh, 2008. She's probably picked up a few here and there since, but probably not at any great rate.
Bernie's probably exploded over the last few months.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)If fact I know that most of my acquaintances/Friends will not vote Hillary either. Either 3rd party or not at all.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Bernie has 115 thousand.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)there still needs to be a registration and Election Day GOTV ground game and organization. But social media does replace a lot of m$m ad buys.
Bellower
(52 posts)GO Bernie GO!
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)I see it as social media as part of a melange of ways to supplement traditional campaigning.
I think it will be the personal connection of Sanders supporters, who are connected electronically to the campaign, to non committed voters that will be crucial.
The Obama campaigns spread like wildfire over the social media, absolutely, and Sanders needs a lot of that. But the situation Sanders is in dictates a lot of face to face time from the candidate and his supporters. The early primaries are somewhat more crucial for Sanders than they were for Obama, imo. Though Sanders does have the opportunity for winning more kinds of victories than is traditionally expected.
The media lives in a bubble of predetermined outcome regarding Senator Sanders. Once decidedly burst, and their lack of prescience exposed, Sanders will have gained a lot of ground, just from that.
P.S. The thread title was evocative to me and so I had to work "melange" into my reply.
He who controls the spice controls the universe.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)attractive, charismatic, smart, has mega FLAVA and is a great communicator.
olddots
(10,237 posts)I remember Ronny Raygun and watch Trump being a pop star .
shireen
(8,333 posts)It's a touching photo and the responses are heartwarming. Hillary was one of the commenters. She did good.
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