Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:51 PM Jul 2015

The candidate that controls the "social media" will win the presidential election.

It happened with Barack Obama in his last two presidential elections. The Republicans had the money but they did not have the organization on the Internet.

The M$M is highly over-rated, in my opinion. There is a new means of communication and those that fail to see it are doomed to lose.

Facebook has become especially popular, even since the last election. This is the future. Those that lag behind will be lost.

33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The candidate that controls the "social media" will win the presidential election. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2015 OP
So far, Sanders appears to be dominating that arena. arcane1 Jul 2015 #1
Really? How so? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #5
I see his quotes and memes shared more often, by people and organizations, than any other candidate. arcane1 Jul 2015 #6
odd. I see virtually none. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #7
You're missing some great stuff! arcane1 Jul 2015 #8
what I do see is Hillary's folllows and buzz dwarfing that of Sanders wyldwolf Jul 2015 #10
I never see anything Clinton-related arcane1 Jul 2015 #11
yet their accounts plainly show numbers and buzz wyldwolf Jul 2015 #13
They do indeed! arcane1 Jul 2015 #14
hillary up 2.8 % from last week, bernie up 10.5% from last week virtualobserver Jul 2015 #15
which doesn't come close to "dominating" by Sanders. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #16
agreed....but facebook is just the tip of the iceberg virtualobserver Jul 2015 #17
well, what's below the tip? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #18
the iceberg is growing. n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #19
But not as you're hoping wyldwolf Jul 2015 #20
I'm quite content virtualobserver Jul 2015 #21
He actually doesn't wyldwolf Jul 2015 #22
Are you sure about that? kentuck Jul 2015 #23
Yeah I'm sure. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #25
That is what everyone is banking on in every election virtualobserver Jul 2015 #24
Different with a candidate like Sanders wyldwolf Jul 2015 #26
that is true only in your imagination- unless you have that time machine working again virtualobserver Jul 2015 #27
There are a lot of states that do not have murielm99 Jul 2015 #32
I'd be willing to bet that Hillary had most of those numbers Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #28
I never see anything Hillary related either. Tons of Bernie though. Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #29
HRC has almost 4 million tweeple following her and underthematrix Jul 2015 #30
Only if social media = GOTV. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #2
Bernie has mastered the use of social media! Bellower Jul 2015 #3
does that mean he can tweet and retweet? underthematrix Jul 2015 #31
I see it as social media being part of a melange ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #4
People tweeted and retweeted PBO because he is underthematrix Jul 2015 #33
I hope you're right olddots Jul 2015 #9
Hillary left a comment at a Humans of New York post on Facebook shireen Jul 2015 #12
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. So far, Sanders appears to be dominating that arena.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jul 2015

I've even seen conservative former classmates share his memes. True, they may not have known who he was, but the message is getting out!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
6. I see his quotes and memes shared more often, by people and organizations, than any other candidate.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jul 2015

Granted, that's just my experience, but it's the only experience I have

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
11. I never see anything Clinton-related
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jul 2015

With Facebook's algorithms, we're all seeing what we want to see to some extent

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
15. hillary up 2.8 % from last week, bernie up 10.5% from last week
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:10 PM
Jul 2015

a lot like the polls in Iowa and NH

Good info!

wyldwolf

(43,868 posts)
18. well, what's below the tip?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:24 PM
Jul 2015

Go to the candidate's pages, click on their social media pages, look at the numbers. There's your iceberg.

wyldwolf

(43,868 posts)
22. He actually doesn't
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

7 months is what he has. His campaign and followers are banking on Iowa and, to a lesser degree, New Hampshire. He HAS to win one of them because the rest of February and March look like disasters for him.

wyldwolf

(43,868 posts)
25. Yeah I'm sure.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jul 2015

Saturday, February 20: South Carolina (open primary)
Tuesday, February 23: Nevada caucus

March[edit]

Tuesday, March 1: Alabama (open primary); Arkansas (open primary); Colorado caucuses; Georgia (open primary); Massachusetts; Minnesota caucuses; North Carolina (open primary); Oklahoma; Tennessee (open primary); Texas (open primary); Vermont (open primary); Virginia (open primary);
Saturday, March 5: Louisiana
Tuesday, March 8: Mississippi (open primary); Michigan (open primary)
Tuesday, March 15: Florida; Illinois; Missouri (open primary); Ohio[45]
Tuesday, March 22: Arizona; Utah caucuses [46]
Saturday, March 26: Washington caucuses;Alaska caucuses[47] Hawaii caucus[48]

I don't see him racking up many delegates with that schedule.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
24. That is what everyone is banking on in every election
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jul 2015

If Hillary had won Iowa, she would have been President

If Obama had won New Hampshire, Hillary would have been immediately on the ropes.

National polls shift radically based on IA and NH.

It is all about momentum.

wyldwolf

(43,868 posts)
26. Different with a candidate like Sanders
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

A win for him in Iowa and/or NH won't do much to move voters with this schedule of mostly southern and western states:

Saturday, February 20: South Carolina (open primary)
Tuesday, February 23: Nevada caucus
March[edit]
Tuesday, March 1: Alabama (open primary); Arkansas (open primary); Colorado caucuses; Georgia (open primary); Massachusetts; Minnesota caucuses; North Carolina (open primary); Oklahoma; Tennessee (open primary); Texas (open primary); Vermont (open primary); Virginia (open primary);
Saturday, March 5: Louisiana
Tuesday, March 8: Mississippi (open primary); Michigan (open primary)
Tuesday, March 15: Florida; Illinois; Missouri (open primary); Ohio[45]
Tuesday, March 22: Arizona; Utah caucuses [46]
Saturday, March 26: Washington caucuses;Alaska caucuses[47] Hawaii caucus[48]

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
27. that is true only in your imagination- unless you have that time machine working again
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jul 2015

we will know after NH



murielm99

(30,754 posts)
32. There are a lot of states that do not have
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:49 PM
Jul 2015

open primaries. Will Sanders be able to get on the ballot in those states? He is an independent, not a Democrat.

Why should we put an independent on our ballots, when we work so hard to get Democrats elected?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. I'd be willing to bet that Hillary had most of those numbers
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jul 2015

since about, oh, 2008. She's probably picked up a few here and there since, but probably not at any great rate.

Bernie's probably exploded over the last few months.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
29. I never see anything Hillary related either. Tons of Bernie though.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jul 2015

If fact I know that most of my acquaintances/Friends will not vote Hillary either. Either 3rd party or not at all.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. Only if social media = GOTV.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:00 PM
Jul 2015

there still needs to be a registration and Election Day GOTV ground game and organization. But social media does replace a lot of m$m ad buys.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
4. I see it as social media being part of a melange ...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:18 PM
Jul 2015

I see it as social media as part of a melange of ways to supplement traditional campaigning.
I think it will be the personal connection of Sanders supporters, who are connected electronically to the campaign, to non committed voters that will be crucial.

The Obama campaigns spread like wildfire over the social media, absolutely, and Sanders needs a lot of that. But the situation Sanders is in dictates a lot of face to face time from the candidate and his supporters. The early primaries are somewhat more crucial for Sanders than they were for Obama, imo. Though Sanders does have the opportunity for winning more kinds of victories than is traditionally expected.

The media lives in a bubble of predetermined outcome regarding Senator Sanders. Once decidedly burst, and their lack of prescience exposed, Sanders will have gained a lot of ground, just from that.

P.S. The thread title was evocative to me and so I had to work "melange" into my reply.

“He who controls the spice controls the universe.”

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
33. People tweeted and retweeted PBO because he is
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jul 2015

attractive, charismatic, smart, has mega FLAVA and is a great communicator.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
12. Hillary left a comment at a Humans of New York post on Facebook
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

It's a touching photo and the responses are heartwarming. Hillary was one of the commenters. She did good.

Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/humansofnewyork/photos/a.102107073196735.4429.102099916530784/1010497585691008/?type=1&theater

Time article:

Street photographer Brandon Stanton — better known as the creator of Humans of New York — posted a picture Friday of a tearful boy with the caption, “I’m homosexual and I’m afraid about what my future will be and that people won’t like me.”

The post garnered 498,000 ‘Likes’, about standard for a HONY post, but what Stanton may not have expected was a comment from Democratic presidential candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Clinton wrote, “Prediction from a grown-up: Your future is going to be amazing. You will surprise yourself with what you’re capable of and the incredible things you go on to do. Find the people who love and believe in you – there will be lots of them.”


More at
http://time.com/3945811/hillary-clinton-humans-of-new-york-gay/

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The candidate that contro...