Does U.S. Ignore Right-Wing Terror? More Killed by White Extremists Than Jihadists Since 9/11

[marmar]

Published on Jun 25, 2015
http://democracynow.org - As thousands head to the South Carolina state Capitol to honor church victim massacre Rev. Clementa Pinckney, a new study finds white supremacists and other non-Muslim fanatics have killed far more people in the United States since 9/11 than Muslim extremists. According to the research center New America, 26 people have been killed in jihadist violence in the U.S. since 9/11, but 48 people have been killed in attacks by right-wing groups. Despite the intense focus by the Obama administration on Muslim communities, non-Muslims have carried out 19 terrorist attacks since September 11, 2001, while Muslims have been responsible for only seven. We are joined by two guests: Mike German, a fellow at NYU’s Brennan Center for Justice and former FBI agent specializing in domestic counterterrorism; and Bud Welch, whose daughter, Julie Marie Welch, was killed in the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building on April 19, 1995.

[DetlefK]

1. Media ignores it, but the FBI is fully aware of the danger.

[Gothmog]

2. Yes, right wing terrorism is ignored in the US

[Enthusiast]

3. Clearly the US has a policy of playing down the threat of right wing terrorism.

[Maedhros]

27. American foreign policy IS right-wing terrorism.[n/t]

[Enthusiast]

29. Yes. There is that.

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[Travis_0004]

4. Somehow that study forgot about the DC sniper

For whites they managed to add a bank robbery in Tusla that killed one person, but according to that study the DC sniper attacks clearly were not terror related, I guess.

[Nye Bevan]

15. Wow. This "study" really ignored those attacks?

A series of trial exhibits suggested Malvo and Muhammad were motivated by an affinity for Islamist Jihad.[34]

Exhibit 65-006: A self-portrait of Malvo in the cross hairs of a gun scope shouting, "ALLAH AKBAR!" The word "SALAAM" scrawled vertically. A lyric from Bob Marley's Natural Mystic "Many more will have to suffer. Many more will have to die. Don't ask me why."

Exhibit 65-016: A portrait of Saddam Hussein with the words "INSHALLAH" and "The Protector," surrounded by rockets labeled "chem" and "nuk".

Exhibit 65-043: Father and son portrait of Malvo and Muhammad. "We will kill them all. Jihad."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks

[GoneFishin]

5. They downplay it. The war on terror is substantially about having a scary boogey man to soften

the public to be amenable to being spied on and having to their pocketbooks drained for expensive questionable military and security programs.

White Christians who wear the same clothes, speak, and share cultural attributes that are familiar to many Americans don't serve that purpose well. It would also create backlash from the political right, who currently are totally on board with blaming brown people for everything that goes wrong.

[LuvNewcastle]

6. RW terrorism is scarier to me,

because white people aren't setting off enough alarm bells with LEOs the way Middle Easterners do. There's a greater chance that a terror attack will occur from whites simply because they aren't generally perceived to be as dangerous as certain others.

[YoungDemCA]

22. +1

[City Lights]

7. The US definitely downplays right-wing terrorism.

Makes me very angry.

[7962]

8. Except that they dont count some crimes as "muslim attacks" when they were

I'd say hollering "alhuakbar" and stabbing people kinda should count. Re: the Oklahoma attack, among others.
The Ft Hood shooter being called "workplace violence" for YEARS. .
Read the actual cases they call "right wing"; you'll notice some are just random violence with no "right wing extremism" mentioned in the news stories.

[RandiFan1290]

12. You seem really upset

Get some bad news in the past week?






 

[Nye Bevan]

17. Would this count as Islamic terrorism?

A series of trial exhibits suggested Malvo and Muhammad were motivated by an affinity for Islamist Jihad.[34]

Exhibit 65-006: A self-portrait of Malvo in the cross hairs of a gun scope shouting, "ALLAH AKBAR!" The word "SALAAM" scrawled vertically. A lyric from Bob Marley's Natural Mystic "Many more will have to suffer. Many more will have to die. Don't ask me why."

Exhibit 65-016: A portrait of Saddam Hussein with the words "INSHALLAH" and "The Protector," surrounded by rockets labeled "chem" and "nuk".

Exhibit 65-043: Father and son portrait of Malvo and Muhammad. "We will kill them all. Jihad."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks

[RandiFan1290]

24. Poor lil fella

How you doing? Feeling any better this week?

[Nye Bevan]

25. .

[7962]

18. Yeah, my post was all caps and !!!, right? Nope.

Cant refute what I said, huh?

[Historic NY]

9. Of course it does....why because it involves white people.

they seem to get a pass.

[malaise]

10. Does the sun rise in the east?

Rec

[alcina]

11. A summary table of the attacks

http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html

And a related article based on Canadian research says this is not just a US trend:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/06/28/right-wing-extremism-a-greater-threat-in-north-america.html

[raouldukelives]

13. Ignoring it might be a nice change, instead we foment it.

Corporate shareholders with eyes full of dollar signs don't care that they are helping people like Huckabee win elections. They don't care they are funding ALEC.

They don't care they are funding right wing racist websites that sow hate and indoctrinate our youth.

Heck, they don't even care they are making the world inhospitable for all the lifeforms that have taken millions of years to evolve.

All they care about is money, and that is fine, for them. It is a free country.

I just hate it when they turn around and pretend to care about things like racism, climate change and democracy after they spend all day expanding the power and reach of those who wish nothing to change and in fact, make things even worse.

[vlyons]

14. Let me tell you what REAL terror is

* Real terror is your job manager telling you that the factory is closing, and you can go home immediately.
* Real terror is the governor of your state telling you that the state will default on your pension fund because he cut taxes for the top tax brackets.
* Real terror is having a very sick child, spouse, or parent ar home, but you can't leave work to care because your emplyer doesn't provide sick leave.
* Real terror is watching your kid get on a school bus that you know travels over a bridge in serious need of repair, but your Republican congress refuses to adequately fund transportation.
* Real terror is being inflicted by an industrial accident because your employer repeatedly refuses to address job safety issues.
* Real terror in seeing an out of control forest fire coming your way because Congress refuses to do anything about climate change.
* Real terror is have the aquifer that waters your reservoir collapse because fracking drained the water.
* Real terror is having your kids' school close early, or close permanently, because your governor cut school funding.
* Real terror is having 10s of thousands of $$$ in student loan debt, and no job interviews or prospects.
* Real terror is being homeless.

Need I list more?

The highest value of Republican ideology is the acquisition on wealth. People are seen as natural resources to be exploited for profit, as corporations race to the bottom in worker compensation and benefits. They have an Ayn Randian view that selfishness is a virture. So the more money you have, the more virtuous you are. In their ideal world, everything is privitized for profit. They are immoral.

[7962]

19. There ya go!

[giftedgirl77]

26. So is that a yes, or just a deflection?

[Maedhros]

28. I think he's pointing out that "terrorism" is a manufactured fear,

designed to keep us in line.

The things he lists are all many orders of magnitude more likely to affect my life, or yours, than is "terrorism".

[giftedgirl77]

30. This OP was referring to the white washing of...

Labeling something an act of terrorism when it is carried out by a white person not of the Islamic faith or POC.

There are numerous events that have been carried out by white Americans that if carried out by Muslims or even a POC that would have been labeled as terrorism in a split second.

Can you imagine the hysteria that would be going on right now if 6 white churches had been burned down?

[Maedhros]

31. We would have martial law if that were to have happened.[n/t]

[vlyons]

33. The Republicans fear-monger us about Moslem terrorism

but completely ignore the very real and terrorfying situations that Americans face every day. They use it to justify a defense budget that is larger than the armies of the next 40+ largest armies in the world. The War machine, that is the Defense budget, IS the GOP jobs plan. But spend money on infrastructure, education, healthcare, the environment -- forget about it.

[Maedhros]

35. It's not just the GOP.

Fear mongering is a bipartisan effort.

[Nye Bevan]

16. I love how they pick a starting date of 9/12/2001 for this "study" (nt)

[YoungDemCA]

21. There were a lot of right-wing domestic terrorist attacks in the 90s

And in America, they happen more often than attacks committed by Muslims.

Attacks of the magnitude of 9/11 are exceedingly rare in American history.

[YoungDemCA]

20. Does a bear shit in the woods?

nt

[Jamastiene]

23. Yes, it does.

They need to do something about it. I wonder how many people even know how many black churches have been burned down since that terrorist killed those 9 innocent people who were simply in their church praying. It doesn't seem like a lot of people even know about the church burnings. They have been happening for decades too. Not to mention all of the other crimes white supremacists have committed through the years.

[DiverDave]

32. I think the word "Why" should start the headline

Because I know why.
Go damned republicans and the scare mongering
to get votes.
Why? They cant win without the crazies they create.

[Wounded Bear]

34. Not necessarily...

FAUX Noise, Limbaugh, et al tend to blame it on leftists. All evil is liberal, you know.

Notice that they never say that anybody in the middle east is a rightie, even though the place is shot through (sorry for pun, well maybe not ) with right wing extremists, whether they be religious extremists, political authoritarians, or the more recent RW neo-liberal economists imported from our own fucked up Chicago school based whackjob mills.

Apparently, everybody who hates us is a liberal leftist.