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Posted on June 28, 2015 by SouthernGirl2
President Obama is keen to introduce tough new laws which will force the KKK and other extreme right-wing groups to disclose the identities of their members, Daily Mail Online can disclose.
The President discussed the possibility of the new measures when he telephoned Charleston mayor Joe Riley following last weeks massacre.
Riley, who is into his 40th year as mayor of the city where nine people were murdered by a self-proclaimed white supremacist down in the AME church massacre, said he and the President talked about how best to set up a national council to act as a watchdog to monitor and report on race hate.
Among the ideas being looked at is legislation forcing extreme right wings groups and violent organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan to provide identities of supporters and members.
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wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)This is fantastic!!!!!!
enough
(13,262 posts)when it came out a couple of days ago.
The Daily Mail story is ambiguous at best, and probably not the most reliable source in any case.
Dr. Strange
(25,923 posts)I suspect this story is quite unreliable.
B2G
(9,766 posts)A really bad one.
shraby
(21,946 posts)to know where and who the hate is coming from. Same as the police like to know who the members of gangs in the cities are.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Why or why not?
shraby
(21,946 posts)give our real names or show our faces?
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)n/t
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Hate is such an interesting emotion. Identifying it can be very tricky. You could have two people in a room and have both of them independently identify whether some exchange, rhetoric, language or action is hateful. One would state no, it isn't hateful. The other would say most certainly it is hateful. You want an example? A preacher is reading certain passages from the bible concerning homosexuality and homosexual acts. The two people: A gay man and a devout Christian.
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If we look at democratic underground, how often do we see rhetoric and language which is reactionary and grossly encompassing of entire groups? How often are republicans lumped together into a gigantic pile and then described with extremely harsh language? Have we not seen this over the last week with gross generalizations about the south? Republicans do the exact same thing. They band together and lump all liberals into a pile and then describe us as socialists, communists, deviants etc etc etc. We believe that our way isn't hate; its truth and "tolerant" (even though our tolerance has conditions). They believe their way isn't hate, its patriotic.
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Do not misunderstand me. I am most certainly a liberal. I have yet to find a social progressive cause that doesn't cause me to want to take a week off and picket. I do believe however that language is important and something to consider before communicating... lest we become hypocrites and dishonorable.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)First Amendment
Freedom of Assembly definition: The right to hold public meetings and form associations without interference by the government. Freedom of peaceful assembly is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution.
Freedom of assembly - Dictionary.com
dictionary.reference.com/browse/freedom+of+assemblyDictionary.com
Not sure that hate groups can claim they assemble peacefully, however.
Or could it violate Freedom of Speech? Maybe one of our DU constitutional scholars could weigh in? Thanks!
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Therefore this is a gigantic hoax destined for Snopes.
JustinL
(722 posts)In 1928, the Supreme Court upheld a New York law requiring the KKK to file a membership list (New York ex rel Bryant v Zimmerman, 278 U.S. 63).
In NAACP v Alabama ex rel Patterson, 357 U.S. 449, Alabama tried to rely on the Bryant case to support its requirement that the NAACP file a membership list. Instead of overruling the Bryant case, the Supreme Court distinguished it, as follows (p. 465):
". . . constitution, by laws, rules, regulations and oath of membership, together with a roster of its membership and a list of its officers for the current year."
N.Y.Laws 1923, c. 664, §§ 53, 56. In its opinion, the Court took care to emphasize the nature of the organization which New York sought to regulate. The decision was based on the particular character of the Klan's activities, involving acts of unlawful intimidation and violence, which the Court assumed was before the state legislature when it enacted the statute, and of which the Court itself took judicial notice.
Spatened
(31 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)In the vein of this idea, perhaps Klan members should be required to wear clear plastic hoods. If you are a Killer Klan Klown, why not let your neighbors know how proud you are by showing your face?
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)It's absolutely UnConstitutional.
All this does is feed into Right Wing paranoia, the same as if you were spreading a message about Obama confiscating everybody's guns.
As for "...set up a national council to act as a watchdog to monitor and report on race hate.", the SPLC already does a damn good job of exactly this and has done for decades. There's no need to re-invent this wheel.
The Daily Mail is a British tabloid, and they habitually pull their "news" out of their ass. And I don't believe your "3chics" know what the hell they're talking about.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)That made me laugh.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Apparently 3chicsPolitico fell for it or they're trolling, too.
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ncjustice80
(948 posts)Strip anonymity from any Reich-wing group, and let the FBI track those a-holes. Shouldn't the KKK be on terrorist watch lists in any case???
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Then this law might not be quite so amazing.
ncjustice80
(948 posts)However, with our recent victories and the laughably weak candidates the the rethugs are putting forth, I don't see that hapepning any time soon