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restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:12 PM Jun 2015

anyone else losing friends over the scotus decision on marriage?

i think i just did. it was a very civil facebook exchange in which i expressed my support. but since this friend is a very conservative christian, i have a feeling her convictions will not allow her to hang out with me anymore.i have always had friends from all religious backgrounds, including atheism and areligious. i am currently agnostic but spiritual.my discussions with friends have always been interesting and civil, often ending with "agree to disagree." i rarely put political stuff on fb but felt so strongly about this as i (like most whether they know it or not) have gay friends. i know what many of you will say- i am not losing anything, good riddance to bad bigots, etc., but it still feels bad. wondering what others are experiencing.

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randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. I dont want anything to do with anyone who hates Gay people, Black people, Asian people Women
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jun 2015

people, etc.

I have lost friends, but to call them friends is just a sentimental issue.

If they have lived as long as I have and their conclusion after all this time is hate is good, then fuck em.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. Oh, I deal with them all day everyday, but when it comes to who I am going to intentionally
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jun 2015

have dinner with, go to a movie with, go on a vacation with, etc, it will NEVER be one of them unless it is a business event.

cilla4progress

(24,772 posts)
4. We have a number of "friends"
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jun 2015

and family members we've had to block. Husband just unfriended one yesterday. Normally, I will just block their news feed.

It's a case-by-case decision for me. Doesn't always follow the same template.

Yes - no loss, if they are intolerant of opposing views! Some of my favorite friends are the ones with whom I disagree politically, but we respect eachother's views (don't discuss them in any depth) and can still have a great fun time together doing our activities!

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
6. i think one has to be somewhat calculating in political discussions with friends
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:20 PM
Jun 2015

(I have have a friend, that is stepping on these land mines continuously, and it causes her great stress)

meaning, what are the odds of winning over someone you consider to be 'conservative Christian' on this issue, right now?, and is it worth losing this particular friend over an issue you are very unlikely to prevail?

and how important is it that they be won over, given that the white house was just lit up in rainbow last night? how much more marginal expense, for how much more marginal benefit?

and before you dismiss her as a friend for having a view you find unacceptable, are you sure that there wont be an issue in the future, where you could be an important ally? or just a friend when either of you need one?

i'm not saying you shouldn't dismiss her as a friend - I'm just suggesting you ask yourself these questions before you decide

my perspective comes from a situation last year (unrelated to any of this), where bridges were burned too quickly, and in my opinion, without enough thought put into it

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
10. I have asked myself these exact questions that you posed!
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jun 2015

What a GREAT post you've made.
Welcome to DU

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. great questions all
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jun 2015

actually, i do think i would be willing to stay friends, perhaps at an increased distance. we have a lot of other common interests. and the reason i posted on a political issue when i almost never do, was not with the hope of changing anyone's mind, but because i felt that i should not keep secret my happiness for my gay friends in this victory.

the ball is mostly in her court. if she can agree to disagree, then i can too (but at a greater distance than before since i find her position, while heartfelt, still bigoted). but if every conversation is going to involve an attempt to "save me" or "set me on the right path" which to them means agreeing that marriage is m-f only and that gay people are disordered, i will have to just be polite when i bump into her and leave it at that.

welcome aboard!

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
7. One of my "friends" posted a screed
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jun 2015

From some "religious" group demanding that they un-friend anyone who altered their profile pic to include the rainbow. How freaking childish. Your side lost, get over it.

TBF

(32,098 posts)
8. Courage in TX -
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jun 2015

I changed my facebook profile to a rainbow & then watched a few friends do the same a bit afterwards. I know that we are still a minority in this state but I am not giving in to the "God's wrath" crowd.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
9. None. Many straight friends have done the rainbow pic for FaceBook
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jun 2015

Support from people I wouldn't have thought supported it (eg. somewhat conservative types).

Siwsan

(26,291 posts)
12. I try to keep the haters at a far distance
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jun 2015

I did put an acquaintance on a 'restricted' list, on Face Book, because he became down right insulting. Other than him, I've heard no negative feedback, at all. I've got a couple of tea party cousins but I really don't have any contact with them, outside of family occasions, and then I usually steer as clear as I can.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Had a friend who posted positively about it
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jun 2015

and one of his friends turned out to be a wing nut and started arguing that we are doomed, liberals taking over, etc. I argued a little with her. But she's just a friend of a friend. I want to tread carefully though. For some reason, my friend is friends with her!

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