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marmar

(77,091 posts)
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:03 AM Jun 2015

Clarence Thomas generally keeps quiet after court decisions. Now we see why..........





WASHINGTON -- Justice Antonin Scalia may have penned the most colorful dissent to Friday's landmark Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality, but his colleague Clarence Thomas wrote the weirdest.

Thomas, alone among the four dissenting justices, seemed to recognize that the legal reasoning he and his fellow conservatives were bringing to bear on same-sex marriage could also apply to interracial marriage. That's a problem for Thomas, because only bigots oppose interracial marriage, and he presumably didn't want his dissent to be seen as window-dressing for hatred. Thomas tried to get around this uncomfortable parallel by arguing that Loving v. Virginia, the 1967 decision that required every state to recognize interracial marriage, wasn't really about marriage after all. Here's what he wrote:

Petitioners’ misconception of liberty carries over into their discussion of our precedents identifying a right to marry, not one of which has expanded the concept of “liberty” beyond the concept of negative liberty. Those precedents all involved absolute prohibitions on private actions associated with marriage. Loving v. Virginia, 388 U. S. 1 (1967), for example, involved a couple who was criminally prosecuted for marrying in the District of Columbia and cohabiting in Virginia, id., at 2–3. They were each sentenced to a year of imprisonment, suspended for a term of 25 years on the condition that they not reenter the Commonwealth together during that time.


.....(snip).....

Human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/clarence-thomas-gay-marriage_n_7672858.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013




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Clarence Thomas generally keeps quiet after court decisions. Now we see why.......... (Original Post) marmar Jun 2015 OP
I have been asking this since yesterday, marym625 Jun 2015 #1
Scalia, in particular, is no longer really a judge LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #6
yep. marym625 Jun 2015 #7
Yes, some kind of dementia: opus dei dementia. Raster Jun 2015 #9
couldn't agree more. eom. marym625 Jun 2015 #12
Opus Deimentia FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #20
Ding! Winnah! Raster Jun 2015 #34
Yeah, wallet dementia. He does what big money pays him to do. nt valerief Jun 2015 #17
LOL! marym625 Jun 2015 #19
Scalia is truly homophobic. His earlier decisions were all about his personal feelings about sodomy. yardwork Jun 2015 #14
He doth protest too much AwakeAtLast Jun 2015 #30
I don't get that vibe. It's because of Opus Dei, imo yardwork Jun 2015 #31
....! KoKo Jun 2015 #15
And the irony is that's exactly what he accuses the other ones of doing. NYC Liberal Jun 2015 #24
Very simply: they oppose or defend at the whim of their 'sponsers' sorechasm Jun 2015 #8
got me. marym625 Jun 2015 #11
Spoken like a man with no dignity. CincyDem Jun 2015 #2
"Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." hobbit709 Jun 2015 #3
You beat me to it by a minute! GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #5
Sometimes it's better to be quiet and thought a fool GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #4
Professor Irwin Corey writes his briefs Fairgo Jun 2015 #10
While Black Americans regained their dignity and humanity randr Jun 2015 #13
+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #27
Supreme court justices should not function as political hacks TBF Jun 2015 #16
Supreme Court Cray Thomas Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #18
I was going to start a thread asking if Thomas were the most inconsequential rurallib Jun 2015 #21
R A T S GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #22
i agree that they are scum but it is unkind to the rats restorefreedom Jun 2015 #29
Shame on the Presidents/s who appointed them! cilla4progress Jun 2015 #23
total waste heaven05 Jun 2015 #25
Did I miss it anyplace in here, that Thomas IS in an interracial marriage... SoapBox Jun 2015 #26
Yes AwakeAtLast Jun 2015 #32
Clarence "what Tony said" Thomas is a know-nothing idiot. PearliePoo2 Jun 2015 #28
Thomas must be a graduate of the Sarah Palin School of Wordsmithing. Scuba Jun 2015 #33

marym625

(17,997 posts)
1. I have been asking this since yesterday,
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:08 AM
Jun 2015

How they would justify or argue against the Loving decision. In fact I just posted that question on another post about Scalia.

They're all nuts

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
6. Scalia, in particular, is no longer really a judge
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jun 2015

He feigns consistency but is quite the opposite, contradicting even his own previous decisions in his twisted rationalizations for his desired partisan outcomes. It's a lifetime appointment and he no longer gives a flying fuck about the law, he merely wants to wield his power to shape the country in his own vile image and he knows there is nothing anyone can do about it. I think that is why he becomes so unhinged when he loses a decision -- someone is actually curtailing his unbridled power and it sends him into a furious rage.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
7. yep.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:24 AM
Jun 2015

I really do wonder if he is suffering from some type of dementia. With him, it could go unnoticed for a while.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
9. Yes, some kind of dementia: opus dei dementia.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:32 AM
Jun 2015

Fat Tony is a disgrace to the bench and along with Thomas and Roberts should have NEVER been appointed.

yardwork

(61,711 posts)
14. Scalia is truly homophobic. His earlier decisions were all about his personal feelings about sodomy.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jun 2015

He can't get over the sex. Scalia is not well. He has issues. Hang ups.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
8. Very simply: they oppose or defend at the whim of their 'sponsers'
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:28 AM
Jun 2015

That is the only justification I can find why he is defending his position so awkwardly. I don't understand Thomas' argument. Is he stating that slavery is somehow 'dignified'?

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
3. "Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:11 AM
Jun 2015

When Clarence speaks he proves that statement every time.

GoneOffShore

(17,341 posts)
4. Sometimes it's better to be quiet and thought a fool
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:12 AM
Jun 2015

Than to speak and prove it.
(Paraphrasing someone else)

randr

(12,415 posts)
13. While Black Americans regained their dignity and humanity
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 10:04 AM
Jun 2015

slave owners and their supporters lost their dignity and humanity forever.

TBF

(32,098 posts)
16. Supreme court justices should not function as political hacks
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 10:25 AM
Jun 2015

and yet that is what we repeatedly get from Scalia and Thomas. It's embarrassing. I'm sure they'd love to overturn every decision made during the Warren Court years and set this country back by decades.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
18. Supreme Court Cray Thomas
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 10:32 AM
Jun 2015

Thanks for posting his legal reasoning. He is off the charts when it comes to understanding that inalienable rights for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are directly related to dignity issues.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
21. I was going to start a thread asking if Thomas were the most inconsequential
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 10:55 AM
Jun 2015

justice ever.

I am not that deep into SCOTUS history, but Thomas' record seems to be that of agreeing with almost no one on anything. I have heard he often writes dissents to point up some strange twist he sees on laws.

He has been a justice damn near 30 years and has almost nothing of value for that time.

GoneOffShore

(17,341 posts)
22. R A T S
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 10:55 AM
Jun 2015

Seen in a comments section somewhere

A little re-ordering makes it clear:

Roberts Alito Thomas Scalia

R A T S

That's what they are.

And even that is giving rats a bad name!


restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
29. i agree that they are scum but it is unkind to the rats
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:04 PM
Jun 2015

domestic rats are actually loving, kind, and peaceful.

completely opposite of these haters.

but your point is well taken.

cilla4progress

(24,772 posts)
23. Shame on the Presidents/s who appointed them!
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jun 2015

Much like the selection of GWB for President, the true powers behind the bench must just look for tools, in coming up with these nominees. They should have never made it through the confirmation process.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. total waste
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jun 2015

total waste. GWB's father showed extreme cynicism and hate toward POC in putting this.........decayed desolation called a human being on the Supreme Court. Especially as a replacement for someone as eloquent and principled as Justice Thurgood Marshall. Chimps father knew exactly the statement he was making.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
26. Did I miss it anyplace in here, that Thomas IS in an interracial marriage...
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jun 2015

I almost had forgotten anout that, until a neighbor of mine reminded me.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
28. Clarence "what Tony said" Thomas is a know-nothing idiot.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jun 2015

He's an embarrassment and total disgrace to the bench.
Hang your head in shame H. W. Shame...shame...shame

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