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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:38 AM Jun 2015

5-4 SSM WIN!!!!.SCOTUS--OBERGEFELL---OPINION...

http://www.scotusblog.com/

Oh, please....


WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kennedy Reading Majority.....four dissents to be read.....

HERE's THE OPINION...rests on Equal Protection and Fundamental Rights!!!



(2) The history of marriage is one of both continuity and change. Changes, such as the decline of arranged marriages and the abandonment of the law of coverture, have worked deep transformations in the structure of marriage, affecting aspects of marriage once viewed as essential. These new insights have strengthened, not weakened, the institution. Changed understandings of marriage are characteristic of a Nation where new dimensions of freedom become apparent to new generations.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

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5-4 SSM WIN!!!!.SCOTUS--OBERGEFELL---OPINION... (Original Post) msanthrope Jun 2015 OP
Kick---will stay on this. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #1
18 minutes....no word if it is being released today. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #2
13 minutes....still no word, SCOTUSBLOG is live and answering questions. msanthrope Jun 2015 #3
10 minutes, people. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #4
If decision is read today, SCOTUSBLOG predicts Kennedy will read it. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #5
Pobbible Glossip decision--Oklahoma death penalty use of midazolam. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #6
FOUR BOXES!!!!! nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #7
Four Boxes should mean four decisions....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #8
Sorry didn't see this thread I'll stick to it. Agschmid Jun 2015 #9
No problem....all hands on deck....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #11
Other remaining cases.... msanthrope Jun 2015 #10
You think SSM will be the fifth and will be Monday? Agschmid Jun 2015 #12
It's entirely possible SCOTUS makes us wait the weekend.....gets rid of msanthrope Jun 2015 #14
Yup! Agschmid Jun 2015 #15
I miscounted--it's four left, including SSM.....fingers crossed.....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #17
Wow it's first! Agschmid Jun 2015 #16
I really want to go to a wedding this weekend herding cats Jun 2015 #13
It is! nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #25
I'm so excited! herding cats Jun 2015 #37
SSM is legal! steve2470 Jun 2015 #18
Wooohoooo!!! Agschmid Jun 2015 #19
Off to the Greatest page for you! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #20
What an incredible path to marriage equality! So happy today. morningfog Jun 2015 #21
5-4 Kennedy reading the majority.....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #22
Excellent! Thought they were going to make people wait longer. mmonk Jun 2015 #23
12 years ago, Lawrence v. Texas!!! nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #24
WOO HOOOOO! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #26
The opinion is stunning.....just stunning. msanthrope Jun 2015 #27
That says it all. The concept of marriage has evolved over the years. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #28
No more coverture.....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #30
And conservative heads are exploding! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #31
Free Republic has gone insane--they are looking for the plagues to start...nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #33
I bet the Cavers are too. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #34
Ah--the Cavers. Those poor, sad bastards who couldn't handle Freeperdom....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #35
Yep. mmonk Jun 2015 #29
Beautifully stated! bettyellen Jun 2015 #32
Some Friday's in this office are better than others. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #38
Take your concern trash to another thread. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #39
It's a form of marriage in some places. Igel Jun 2015 #45
I would appreciate your thoughts as regards DURHAM D Jun 2015 #40
I think we see a heightened scrutiny in this decision.....and I think by the invocation of msanthrope Jun 2015 #41
YES! YES! YES! William769 Jun 2015 #42
Tears in my eyes, William. Happy ones. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #43
Same here. William769 Jun 2015 #44
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. Other remaining cases....
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:58 AM
Jun 2015

Arizona redistricting (argued in February sitting), Clean Air Act (Utility Air Group v. EPA, argued in March sitting), Johnson v. US (Armed Career Criminal Act, re-argued in April), SSM (April), and Glossip v. Gross (lethal injection, April).

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
14. It's entirely possible SCOTUS makes us wait the weekend.....gets rid of
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jun 2015

the rest, and leaves SSM for Monday. WAIT----no--four decisions.....four bpxes....we may have the answer today....

That would be some serious judicial trolling, IMHO....to make us wait.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
13. I really want to go to a wedding this weekend
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jun 2015

They've been waiting for so long. Please, let it be today.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
27. The opinion is stunning.....just stunning.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jun 2015
The history of marriage is one of both continuity and change. Changes, such as the decline of arranged marriages and the abandonment of the law of coverture, have worked deep transformations in the structure of marriage, affecting aspects of marriage once viewed as essential. These new insights have strengthened, not weakened, the institution. Changed understandings of marriage are characteristic of a Nation where new dimensions of freedom become apparent to new generations.


http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

Response to msanthrope (Original post)

Igel

(35,356 posts)
45. It's a form of marriage in some places.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jun 2015

And if marriage evolves and changes--presumably only in one direction--then you may have to wait for civil rights for polygamists for longer than 3 years, but there's no reason to think that there's any real moral principle that currently denies it won't be corrected.

Unless, of course, it's continued to be considered immoral, in which case the universe's moral arc continues to be ours. (That's sort of the problem with saying that our moral evolution is really a great, cosmic change towards ultimate justice. It confuses a small group of primates with some sort of anthropomorphized deistic universe. Not only are we the world, we are the deistic universe, lock, stock and barrel.)

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
40. I would appreciate your thoughts as regards
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jun 2015

our issues such as housing, employment, public accommodations, etc.

What are the implications after this decision?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
41. I think we see a heightened scrutiny in this decision.....and I think by the invocation of
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jun 2015

both EP, and fundamental rights, I think Kennedy has opened the floodgates, legally.

I want to read more erudite commentators, but I think the legal worm has finally, irrevocably, turned.

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