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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 09:23 AM Jun 2015

What's in a name? "Trey Gowdy"

You may have heard that "Jeb!" is slowak for "Fuck!"



Well "Gowdy" sure sounds like the german word "Gaudi", which translates to "spectacle" or "party".
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If a Benghazi-commitee calls in a witness and then only 24 out of more than 525 questions (that's 5%) are about anything Benghazi-related, I would call that a spectacle.

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What's in a name? "Trey Gowdy" (Original Post) DetlefK Jun 2015 OP
I would just call it a bullshit witch hunt. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #1
The Slavic root is sometimes written "jeb-". Igel Jun 2015 #2
Colloquial use is a bit different. DetlefK Jun 2015 #3

Igel

(35,359 posts)
2. The Slavic root is sometimes written "jeb-".
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jun 2015

But Slavic transcription norms and Slovak orthography are vaguely German, and the root is pronounced "yeb-". But I'm not done.

Slovak has word-final obstruent devoicing. /b/ is an obstruent.

What's spelled "jeb" is pronounced "yep."

Except that you can't really say it in isolation. It's an imperative, not an exclamation. And it's singular, meaning you can't say it to more than one person (one that you know well, because it's also familiar).

You say "jeb" and people will wait for you to say who or what the person you're ordering to fuck is supposed to be fucking, unless it's already clear. Your mother, his girlfriend, the neighbor's goat. There aren't many contexts in which I say "fuck" as an imperative. "Now, son, you go in there and fuck!" "Here, daughter, I brought home a friend. Fuck!" Really?

So everytime you say "yep" a Slovak would think you're telling him to fuck something or someone. If you have a Slovak over to visit your family and as you leave the room he asks you for something, do not answer "yep" and leave him alone with your wife, daughter, or possibly son. Or have some common sense.

"Gowdy ~ Gaudi" is a shoe-cabbage. "Jeb" is not, but somebody's proposed a similar kind of thing for "same orthographies"; this was found to be a ridiculous proposition by all. Anyway, a shoe-cabbage is a string of identical or very similar sounds that means one thing in one language and another in a second language. In French "chou" (pronounced very much like English "shoe&quot means "cabbage." Most require that the pronunciations be fairly similar. German Fuchs 'fox' is not considered a shoe-cabbage with "fucks," even though I've heard some classical music announcers get Fuchs (as in "Johann Joseph Fuchs", a Baroque composer) wrong in precisely that way; then again, the same dolt pronounced Mozart to rhyme with Beaux arts, so we can see his level of cultural attainment. Qui savait que le M. Mozart etait francais?

"Bach" and "bock" are shoe-cabbages, although both, oddly, are from German.

While I wanted to suggest "Gaudi" in German, like "gaudy" in English, might come from Antoni Gaudi, a famous architect and builder, that's most likely wrong. Probably it's from Latin gaudium 'joy' or even more probably gaudeamus 'let's be happy'. Das Gaudi is more like "fun", btw, so that fits. The geographical distribution of das Gaudi, down in Catholic country (S. Germany, Austria) fits a more Latin origin, as does its gender. " target="_blank">Gaudeamus is a song. Or if you prefer words, there's Wiki.

Apparently the "Gaudie" is a jocular British way of referring to Gaudeamus.

Pointing out the similarly between Gowdy and das Gaudi strikes me as saying, "Benghazi committee? We'll have a great time!" I don't see the embarrassment in Gaudi and I don't center my life around contempt to a great enough degree to force the facts to fit.

Not sure where the stress is for the German word and I don't much feel like going upstairs to my dictionary collection to look it up or verify the typical usage for "das Gaudi."

DetlefK

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3. Colloquial use is a bit different.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jun 2015

"Gaudi" is most likely from "gaudium". I think "Gaudi" is mainly used in Bavaria (colloquially with a female gender!) and as Bavarians are hard-core Catholics and as the Catholic Church used lots of Latin in the Middle-Ages, it's not that far off to speculate that the Bavarians co-opted and germanized the word.

"Gaudi" does mainly have positive connotations when coming to spectacle/party/fun, but it may also be used to describe a party that gets loud and out of control. (Though "Gaudi" is never used when something bad actually happens/happened.)

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