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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:17 PM Jun 2015

How Hillary outperforms a generic Democratic presidential candidate

Here's another important dynamic to understand: Hillary Clinton outperforms a generic Democratic presidential candidate. While she leads Bush/Rubio/Walker between 8-14 points, a generic Democratic presidential candidate barely beats a GOP generic candidate, 39%-36%. And the difference comes from the key Democratic-leaning demographic groups. A generic Democrat has a 16-point lead among those 18-34 (46%-30%), but Hillary's average lead over Jeb and Rubio here is 29 points (58%-29%). A generic Democrat has a 62-point lead among African Americans (69%-7%), but Hillary's lead against Bush/Rubio here is 87 points (91%-4%). And a generic Democratic candidate holds a 9-point lead among Latinos (40%-31%), but Hillary's average here against Jeb/Rubio is 42 points (65%-23%).



http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-most-important-number-nbc-wsj-poll-n380181




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rock

(13,218 posts)
7. "Really well liked" is not an exageration
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:33 PM
Jun 2015

Many of us are not ashamed to say we love her (don't tell Bill).

Tarheel_Dem

(31,240 posts)
2. Thanks for pointing this out. Proof that not just any "Democrat" can win. I am more convinced....
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:23 PM
Jun 2015

than ever that HRC is our best chance to hold the White House for another term. Too much is at risk with a Republican WH, legislature, and USSC. I don't know what's so hard to grasp.

elleng

(131,111 posts)
4. Well, how many 'generic' Democratic candidates do we have, really?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jun 2015

Bernie Sanders- Now A FACEBOOK INFERNO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026884347

Martin O'Malley on TPA cloture vote in Senate: "What have we come to?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026888190

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. Bernie would be an inferno as a general election candidate all right. As in a disaster.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jun 2015

He's getting crushed in head to head matchups against Repug candidates in all but the bluest of blue states where he is running even against them (i.e. California). And their name recognition is similar so its not a name recognition issue.

With Bernie making California a toss up state, we could expect a very bad night on election night.

elleng

(131,111 posts)
12. because the election that's happening now tells you so?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:36 PM
Jun 2015

have I missed something? Last I checked, the election doesn't occur until 2016, and primaries and caucuses don't begin until around then, like Iowa, February, 2016.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. Yes I know, the polls are skewed or wrong or whatever. We're supposed to ignore them because your
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:37 PM
Jun 2015

candidate isn't doing well right now.

Whenever you are in the position where you have to attack or discount poll results, you are in a bad place.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. That's an interesting data point. Of course, the real problem may be that the Democratic brand
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jun 2015

is in really, really rough shape.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Not that, but the party wouldn't be well-served by ignoring fundamental
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:53 PM
Jun 2015

problems regardless of who the candidate is.

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