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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 12:56 AM Jun 2015

Frank Discussions on Race Help Define Hillary Clinton’s 2016 Campaign




In one of the most striking speeches of his 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama spoke about his candidacy as evidence that the country could transcend its racially divisive roots.

“I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy,” Mr. Obama said at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. But, he said, he believed that “working together, we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice if we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.”

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On Tuesday, she will hold a community meeting at a black church in Florissant, Mo., near Ferguson, where clashes between black protesters and police officers erupted last summer after an unarmed African-American teenager was killed by a white police officer. At the meeting, she plans to discuss the massacre of nine people last week at a black church in Charleston, S.C., and “broader issues around strengthening communities,” her campaign said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/23/us/politics/hillary-clinton-embraces-racial-issues-in-departure-from-2008.html?_r=0
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Frank Discussions on Race Help Define Hillary Clinton’s 2016 Campaign (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 OP
I usually do not give a crap what politicians wear nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #1
lol JI7 Jun 2015 #3
Yeah I admit it is shallow. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #5
Nadin is entitled to offer her sartorial services, can't hurt... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #6
It was not meant in a serious manner nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #7
K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #2
Kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2015 #4
Thank you, Hillary Clinton.. mahalo DSB Cha Jun 2015 #8
Her politics on race are very good this time around. More from the article: Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #9
Who is the 'Frank Discussions"... daleanime Jun 2015 #10
Thank you for input and I am sure you join me in hoping .... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #11
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. I usually do not give a crap what politicians wear
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 01:00 AM
Jun 2015

I really do not. This is the second time I see that dress, and it is from the same event where she wore it. So I do hope HRC never, ever, like ever, wears that dress again. It really does not look good on her.

I think in a few years of covering politics this is the first time I say this OUTSIDE these four walls. We have a few of our local pols, both male and female, that do need a fashion consultant (and are a challenge just to make them look good in a photo). This dress is a challenge. Just as big of a challenge as some of our sloppy dressers.

(And yes, this is the inner photographer talking, it has none to do with policy).

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Yeah I admit it is shallow.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 01:19 AM
Jun 2015

But hey, I usually do not care. And to be honest. Unless she comes to my area of the country and I have to take photos, not really my concern.



It's just that dress...

To her policy. Will read the transcript with care. I have been known to post the full transcript when any pol makes a statement that quite frankly does not deserve a filter. We have in the past for her. I just do not post any of our political coverage here. Being a non partisan site, my coverage does not fit in a partisan site. Nor do I care for it to fit.

It would have to become partisan. That is far from my intent.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
6. Nadin is entitled to offer her sartorial services, can't hurt...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 01:22 AM
Jun 2015

With all the hate for HRC on this site it made me chuckle.


I suspect the red is meant to convey power.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. It was not meant in a serious manner
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jun 2015

was just a comment as a photog.

There are things I notice these days about superficial stuff like that, because it can affect composition. I mean we do not like to make people look bad...trust me, some are vain.

One of our local pols wears jackets that are one to two sizes too small, and ties that belong in another decade. Light becomes an issue regularly with him.

The only decent photo we got of a local Republican congressman was the day he lost. He is so woody, that it is like photographing a maniorette. One of out local women wears spandex skirts, far from flattering.

None of this has to do with policy but all to do with light, shadow and ISO settings.

Oh and red is about power. What does not set that well is the size of the collar. On one angle I saw that dress was not precisely flattering since it did draw attention from the face. It might have been the light and angle.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
9. Her politics on race are very good this time around. More from the article:
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 01:36 AM
Jun 2015

<snip>

Seven years later, in a twist of current events and politics, Mrs. Clinton has become the presidential candidate at the forefront of that discussion. And the way that racial issues have shaped her early campaign has emerged as the most striking difference between her 2016 campaign and the failed bid of 2008.

Back then, as she wrestled uncomfortably in competing against the man who would become the first black president, Mrs. Clinton appeared reluctant to make race a central issue. And her husband, former President Bill Clinton, angered many African-American leaders with off-the-cuff comments that seemed to diminish Mr. Obama’s stature, including calling his antiwar position “the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

Now, Mrs. Clinton is offering sweeping and passionate speeches on race, which was one of the subjects that first drove her interest in politics in the 1960s and ’70s.

<snip>

Making the issue broader than a Southern state grappling with racism and its Confederate roots carries some risk for Mrs. Clinton, who relied heavily on the support of white working-class voters in 2008 in critical states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. In that nominating race, in addition to her husband’s remarks that set off anger among African-Americans, an important supporter of hers, Gov. Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania, said he believed many of his state’s “conservative whites” were “probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate.”

But Mrs. Clinton appears not to have suffered any lingering resentment among black voters. In fact, some of her strongest support now comes from African-Americans. About 57 percent of black respondents said they had a favorable opinion of Mrs. Clinton, compared with 30 percent of whites, according to a New York Times-CBS News poll conducted April 30 to May 3.

<snip>

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
11. Thank you for input and I am sure you join me in hoping ....
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:24 AM
Jun 2015

Thank you for kicking my thread and I am sure you join me in hoping she continues this discussion through the primaries, the general election, and her two terms as president.

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