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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 02:40 PM Jun 2015

Amazon to pay authors in its library program by pages read

This news bit raises one very burning question, and I am curious to see how many identify it.

SAN FRANCISCO — In a move that places a new priority on 'page-turner,' Amazon on July 1 will begin paying authors in its Kindle library program by the number of pages read, and not the number of times a book is checked out.
The change appears to affect only ebooks self-published on Amazon that authors made available through the company's Kindle Unlimited and Kindle Owners' Lending Library programs.
some authors will be paid by only the number of pages the borrower has actually read. (No cheating, Amazon's got an algorithm to check for that.)

Authors also can't pad books by choosing a larger font size. Amazon's created the "Kindle Edition Normalized Page Count," which measures pages by a standard font, line height and line spacing system.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/22/amazon-pages-read-kindle-owners-lending-library-payment/29110803/
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Amazon to pay authors in its library program by pages read (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 OP
I guess they had to HassleCat Jun 2015 #1
How close an eye are they keeping on me if they even know how many pages of a book I read? herding cats Jun 2015 #2
They do it so if i switch devices they can take me to where i was! nt Logical Jun 2015 #3
So if my WiFi is disabled then the author doesn't get paid? herding cats Jun 2015 #4
Maybe, but at some point you will have it back on. Nt Logical Jun 2015 #7
That is EXACTLY the burning question. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #5
Well, this sucks. herding cats Jun 2015 #6
So I'll go from getting paid ~0$ for my downloads to ~0$ for the pages read. Johonny Jun 2015 #8
This is for self-published authors only Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #9
Right. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #10
I think you mean Hachette? Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #11
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. I guess they had to
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jun 2015

I suppose some authors were sitting at their computers, checking out books to fake persons, just to pad their paychecks.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
2. How close an eye are they keeping on me if they even know how many pages of a book I read?
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jun 2015

That's probably not what you're thinking of, but it was my takeaway as a reader.

Are they only keeping track of what my page counts on the books which meet this limited criteria, or is this more information they've been gathering about me in regards to everything I read?

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
4. So if my WiFi is disabled then the author doesn't get paid?
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jun 2015

I keep it off most of the time on my e-reader to save my battery. Actually, I only enable it when I'm downloading an item.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. That is EXACTLY the burning question.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 03:06 PM
Jun 2015

I keep thinking about the woman who had a dispute with Amazon, with the result that Amazon removed all her Kindle books from her Kindle, much to her shock.

The Kindle and the Nook ( I have the Nook) store copies of your purchased e-books in "the cloud".
They tout this as a boon to you.
Whenever you access wi-fi on your e-reader, they can "see" it, and I assume grab any info they want while you are online.
As I posted some time ago, Amazon claims you do not really own the e-book, you are paying the purchase price as a "fee" to access the copyright holder's material in the book.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
6. Well, this sucks.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jun 2015

It's just one more area of my life where I'm being mined for information that someone else is making a profit off. I'm sure there's some sort of market out there for the info of when you start a book and can't seem to wade your way past the first few chapters.

I still buy hard copies of the authors I collect. I do read all my "fluff" authors through digital media, though. I admit I would still be highly ticked off if Amazon decided to delete my books. I paid a full print copy price for many of them after all. If it's a limited license to access the material then I should be getting a substantial discount.

Johonny

(20,856 posts)
8. So I'll go from getting paid ~0$ for my downloads to ~0$ for the pages read.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 04:25 PM
Jun 2015

It makes you not want to enroll in the programs...

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
9. This is for self-published authors only
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jun 2015

who self-published through Amazon's services. (eg createspace).

Just want to point that out, because that is a vastly different scenario than if it were for all the ebooks from actual publishers.

Not saying that makes it okay by any means. I am a firm believer that art work IS work and deserves to be compensated. Amazon's self-publishing service (along with most self-publishing companies) is basically a scam for anyone who isn't doing a vanity project.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Right.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jun 2015

And Amazon would never put pressure on publishers to make a buck...

Well, except for that thing with Hatchett Publishing House, which I am sure was just a....anomaly.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
11. I think you mean Hachette?
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

And no, it wasn't an anomaly. In fact, I don't think their recent negotiations with Penguin Random House would have finished so quickly if Amazon hadn't played so tough with Hachette last year.

I think you may have misunderstood something in my post, I'm really not sure what you are getting at.

I was just pointing out that, according to the excerpt you posted, "The change appears to affect only ebooks self-published on Amazon"

Issues with contracts between Amazon and the traditional publishers is a different issue.

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