Blood lust in response to shooting

[HassleCat]

COLUMBIA, S.C. — (Associated Press) Two days after the shooting deaths of nine people during a Bible study at a Charleston church, Republican Gov. Nikki Haley made a bold public statement: The gunman "absolutely" should be put to death. But her state, though largely pro-death penalty, can't secure one of the drugs needed for lethal injections and hasn't executed an inmate since 2011.

Yeah, that's right! Our first concern should be revenge... oh, excuse me... "justice" for the victims. The governor has not even admitted the shooting was racially motivated, which indicates she hasn't though about it very seriously, and she's calling for Roof to be executed. Before he's been convicted, by the way. Maybe it would occur to her to hold her tongue for a couple weeks, maybe talk with the victims' families and find out how they feel. You know, all that rational sort of stuff. But, no. She just has to get her mug on TV and show how "tough" she is.

OK, governor, here's a deal for you. You can show everyone you are just one bad ass woman. When they convict Roof, we'll march him out into the middle of a sports stadium and you can shoot him in the head, in front of thousands of people. In fact, we'll let you knee cap him first, and dance around joyously, while cheered on by 20,000 bloodthirsty admirers. Would that do it for you?

[Romeo.lima333]

1. i never saw it as revenge or justice but a consequence of your actions

although someone doing something as awful as this probably has some mental issues and may not really be responsible for himself

[HassleCat]

2. What she could have said

"We will make sure the person who did this will see the consequences of his actions. Justice will be served, and there will be an appropriate punishment." See the difference? This still leaves open the possibility of the death penalty, but it doesn't sound quite so Johnny Rambo.

[Romeo.lima333]

3. at least she didnt say "we'll smoke 'em out, dead or alive"

[malaise]

9. NO - it is revenge

fed by a an old testament vengeance interpretation of religion

[Romeo.lima333]

19. i dont see it that way

[1handclapn]

4. i have problems with another "lone gunman" assassination.. tried and convicted by the media before

the bodies are cold. the Commonality in nearly all the mass shootings seem to be Antidepressants, and related drugs with the same symptoms, including the same media hype.. it was said the shooter had to ask who the Senator was.. so he seems have been the target. that is too weird for me. he walked in with a target's name but not knowing who he was.!! a kid with a reputation for living only to stay high.. and the Target was an unpopular political person working to help the underclass, with financial, medical assistance and voting rights..? do you have to live in the South to figure that out.?? did they take a blood sample and test it.?

http://www.ibtimes.com/what-drugs-was-dylann-roof-suboxone-powerful-narcotic-found-charleston-shooter-1973919

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list-of-drug-induced-killers/

don't all these guys look doped out of their skulls.??

[HockeyMom]

5. Roof Drug Possession

http://www.wistv.com/story/29353220/police-dylann-roof-arrested-for-trespassing-drug-possession-at-columbiana-centre

I read somewhere else that this was a Felony Charge which had not yet been litigated. Would this have shown up on a Background Check if he had tried to purchase a gun himself? It certainly wouldn't for his father buying him a gun.

[-none]

6. If his father bought it for him, that very well could have been a straw purchase.

But we have heard very little about his father. Very little. Why?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

7. Maybe because his father didn't buy him the gun ...

... and maybe his father didn't go on a shooting rampage.

Or are the iniquities of the son visited upon the father?

[HockeyMom]

8. His Uncle identified him

and was the family member cooperating with the police. He was the person who said his BIL gave Roof gun for his 21st Birthday. Any of his criminal charges are a matter of public record, which reporters could easily find out, and interview the people involve, as in Security at the Mall in the link.

[sendero]

10. it's been widely reported that the gun..

.. was a gift from a relative. I would not want to be that relative at this point in time.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

12. That would be a problem, if ...

... if the relative had knowledge of convictions for violent crimes or any felonies. Knowledge of drug problems could be a problem as well, maybe.

DU seems generally forgiving of drug use "offenses". More so than the "zero tolerance" right.

It might be an interesting case.

[-none]

13. There still seems some confusion as to which one actually bought the gun.

The question is still open for some of us. That comes from paying attention to past nefarious happenings in this country.

[Romeo.lima333]

20. aiding and abetting is a crime

[jwirr]

15. Do we even know his father's name? We know his grandfather - Joseph and his uncle but I have

seen nothing mentioning his father and mother by name. And I wonder why also.

[-none]

16. Someone will dig that information out.

And DU will take sides again on whether it is true or not.
Too many people make their minds up too soon.

[sendero]

11. I literally could not care less..

... what they do to that guy. He's not going to last long in prison anyway. He made his choice and now he can reap the consequences. Tough shit, sucks to be him, probably before but especially after he decided to slaughter 9 people.

[vankuria]

14. Prison would by far be the worst punishment for him

He would probably need to be kept away from other inmates given the racial motivation for his crime. And you're right, he won't last long whether in the general population or in isolation.

[hifiguy]

18. Yep. Life in the slammer plus 100 years.

Let him stew in his own idiocy, inhumanity and criminality.

[romanic]

17. That's how I feel

about Roof and Dzarnev and other maniac gunmen before him. Death, isolation, a hole in the ground; I just don't give a shit. Just put him away like the garbage that he is.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

21. Yes, this tests the "no death penalty" position

"I'm against the death penalty, but ..."

Nobody will care if this guy gets a needle in 20 years, after all appeals.
Nobody will care if this guy gets knifed in the prison yard.
Nobody will care if this guy drops the soap in the shower.
These all seem to be rightist, repub feelings.
And at times like this, they tug at us.

No death penalty. No exceptions.

[sendero]

22. You are so right...

.... I don't care about ANY of those scenarios. Some people are like hydrophophic dogs, there is simply no saving them. But luxuriate in your assumed mantle of moral superiority, one that is false on every level.