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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo matter who ends up in the WH from the Democratic Party,
unless the teabaggers are eliminated from Congress, we will see similar obstruction. The state houses and all levels of government need to be cleaned out. The Koch brothers agenda needs to be stopped at all levels, not just the presidency. And people need to vote. This election must be a collective pushback.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Republicans have been winning at local and state levels for years, and when democrats don't get out and vote in those elections, they only help republicans. I agree with you, it has to be on ALL levels, and it needs to be done as soon as possible.
madokie
(51,076 posts)we need to call the teabillies out to the point that they're ashamed of who they are otherwise we're stuck with them. As long as they win elections that is. God, Gun, Gays and Abortions is the only things that they get elected with. Its all about God. Don't touch my guns, God is against gays and God is against abortions.
I don't do God
I don't do Guns
I did pay for an abortion
I love a dear friend and his friend who I know for a fact were gay from the day they were born. No choosing this for either of them. Born Gay. Friends both
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)of DU and we can't allow RW talking points here to influence anyone not to vote. The GOP is doing anything and everything to suppress the vote and yes DU is a target.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)You cannot be paid for registering voters. I plan on registering as many as I can in the poor neighborhoods! I would like to see at least some of the local Teapublicans voted out, though we will have to recruit Progressive candidates who previously have not had a chance. Hope it will help Bernie in the Primary as well. I still need further education on what I would be allowed to say while registering though. I am hoping there are no restrictions on what I can say, but it is Texas!
merrily
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Here's the reality. The House at least is gerrymandered because the Republicans held it in a census year. Besides that, the saying is that everyone hates Congress, but loves their representative. The incumbent advantage and the gerrymandering means that getting even a simple majority in the House is going to be tough. However, if we don't get it soon, Republicans will hold it until 2020, another census year.
Getting 60 Senators again is going to tough, too. Getting both, OY.
We HAVE to register voters, especially in cities. Republicans are very astroturf organized on this issue. Meanwhile, Democrats voted ACORN into oblivion and did not replace it. So, it really is up to us. We must START now.
Don't overlook people in senior housing or nursing homes, either. Get them absentee ballots, if they need them.
Another thing to start now: badgering your state for paper ballots. We've had them since the 2004 Pesidential. If Boston can vote on paper ballots, so can your town.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I love to read reasonable posts on DU. It's getting harder and harder.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)I don't care about Third Wayers or Blue Dogs. They aren't Republicans.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)That plan has worked reasonably well...now, they want to take over local governments...
This cancerous evil must be stopped...before it devours everything...
Another part of their agenda is electoral college vote splitting, already making its way through some Republican held states...the reality is the electoral college has passed its sell-by date, should be relegated to its rightful place in the dust-bin of history...One person, one vote...with that the John Birch Society (aka, Teabaggers) will never win another election...
And, of course, we need to go back to counting paper ballots...
7962
(11,841 posts)Some estimates give the Dem presidential candidate over 200 electoral votes before the votes are even cast, because of reliably blue states with large electoral votes, like California. I doubt we ever see Ca vote GOP for President again.
Texas is the only reliable Red state with a large number of Electoral Votes.
Putting 2000 aside, the electoral college method still gives the Dems a better chance than total votes. Even in California, the GOP would get millions of votes. Under the current system, those votes mean nothing for the GOP since the state will go Dem.
if Republicans manage to pass enough state laws to split the electoral votes, where does that leave Dems?
7962
(11,841 posts)Even changes to a state constitution would require a vote.
And to change it at a national level would require the 2/3 ratification of the states, right? Or could electoral law be changed without that?
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)the election of the electoral college electors is the business of each state...not all states award all electors to the winning party on a winner-take-all basis...they split them according to the votes in their states...Kochs believe they can get more states to split their electors..
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)He got 530,000 more popular votes than Bush, but you know the rest of the story.
In fact, 3 presidential candidates have actually won the popular votebut were kept out of the White House by the Electoral College: Samuel Tilden (1876), Grover Cleveland (1888), and Al Gore.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)It is any legislator who takes the corporate dollar that must be voted out.
The Tea Party grassroots is our ally against TPP, TAA, etc. They are silly on social issues, and ignorant about most everything else, but they are aggrieved and will make common cause against Corporate takeover of the globe.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Go Peddle that in Charleston. They are not ever going to be allies of mine.
lastlib
(23,233 posts)Agreed, they don't like the idea of corporate takeover, but they swallow every policy that facilitates it.
Cha
(297,240 posts)notice that.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)And succinct too. You really said it all.
BumRushDaShow
(128,989 posts)People have to stop this mentality of only voting "every 4 years" or maybe only a couple times in that 4 year period. There is usually some election (whether a primary, general, or special election) pretty much EVERY YEAR - where you may have federal one year, state another year, local/county/school board, perhaps judges, etc., another year - and these positions very much impact someone's the day-to-day life.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)GOTV on all levels.
4dsc
(5,787 posts)our history has been pathetic when it comes to standing to the teabaggers. When we see more candidates like Warren, Sanders, and Grayson then we can and will defeat the teabaggers.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Why hasn't anyone thought of this before???????
R. P. McMurphy
(834 posts)You crazy DU'ers make me so proud of y'all sometimes.
lastlib
(23,233 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)It is what it is. You can't elect progressives in certain parts of the country.
At least 47% of this country will vote for the Republican nominee.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)We need to focus on what's in front of us and what we have the power to change. And it matters what Democrat ends up in the White House...
Hillary Clinton is not going to change a dysfunctional, corrupt economic system that is based on entitlement and the disparagement of the American workforce. We're working longer hours, for less money, with less time off while spending more for healthcare and college than any industrialized nation in the world.. And the only candidate that's talking about the radical changes necessary to change the system is Bernie Sanders.
Hillary Clinton, the current front running Democratic candidate is being funded by the very establishment that benefits from our current corrupt system and that is who she represents. That's the problem..
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and now is the time to start replacing these batshit crazy and/or sellout politicians we currently have with people who will represent OUR interests and not those of the .001%. The local Democrats here (mostly the PDA) picketed Costa's office after he voted for fast track for the TPP. There's serious talk about recruiting someone to run against him in 2016.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)we have 60 votes in the Senate.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... Bernie Sanders is elected President.
I will not make that mistake. ~ Bernie Sanders
Only Bernie is in position to use the bully pulpit to change the makeup of Congress.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Elect a "Democrat" who works with Republicans to pass RW legislation, and you won't see much obstruction from them. As we can see with the TPP, they'll work with people they've proclaimed undying hatred for, as long as the job at hand is passing RW legislation.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Teabaggers are way ahead of us when it comes to the less "sexy" elections.
FSogol
(45,485 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)to us, but what will the Democratic candidates do to us. Obama has screwed us and we can expect the same from DLC Clinton.
We need Democrats that will fight for the 99% and it isn't HRC.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)who make plenty of nice noise on the social issues but are still surviving on big corporate cash.
underahedgerow
(1,232 posts)"ran' for office and the debacle that followed there, I am desperate to think that most people realize that the outcome of the next Presidential election is already a foregone conclusion. It happened twice, and it can happen again.
I'll spell it out; the bush regime is going to rig the election process again. Jeb is going to be appointed President.
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