FBI Agent: The CIA Could Have Stopped 9/11

[eridani]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/30838-fbi-agent-the-cia-could-have-stopped-911

Rossini, who was assigned to the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center (CTC) at the time of the attacks, has long maintained that the U.S. government has covered up secret relations between the spy agency and Saudi individuals who may have abetted the plot. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers who flew commercial airliners into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon, and a failed effort to crash into the U.S. Capitol, were Saudis.

A heavily redacted 2005 CIA inspector general’s report, parts of which had previously been released, was further declassified earlier this month. It found that agency investigators "encountered no evidence" that the government of Saudi Arabia "knowingly and willingly supported" Al-Qaeda terrorists. It added that some CIA officers had “speculated” that “dissident sympathizers within the government” may have supported Osama bin Laden but that “the reporting was too sparse to determine with any accuracy such support.”

Over 30 pages relating to Saudi Arabia in the report were blacked out. The Obama administration has also refused to declassify 28 pages dealing with Saudi connections to the hijackers in a joint congressional probe of the attacks.

As has been previously reported, Rossini and another FBI agent assigned to the CTC, Doug Miller, learned in January 2000 that one of the future hijackers, an Al-Qaeda operative by the name of Khalid al-Mihdhar, had a multi-entry visa to enter the U.S. By mid-summer of 2001, the CIA was repeatedly warning President George W. Bush and other White House officials that an Al-Qaeda attack was imminent. But when Miller and Rossini attempted to warn FBI headquarters that al-Mihdhar could be loose in the U.S., a CIA supervisor ordered them to remain silent.

[grasswire]

1. release the 28 pages now nt

[Enthusiast]

17. +1 a huge bunch!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

53. Why is the White house not de-classifying this?

The American people want to know. If the Saudis carried out the attacks why is this country still friends with them.

[sabrina 1]

69. Yes and it's way past time to end all this secrecy. Coleen Rowley and other FBI agents ALSO

found it impossible to warn about possible danger from people who were here in the US.

How about this, IF they refuse to release the information, then we the people have the right to assume that crimes were committed by people in our government and in Saudi Arabia.

[longship]

2. Tick,tick, tick,...

[nationalize the fed]

3. And we are supposed to accept major changes to our very way of life

while a critical piece of history is being censored?

No Sale.

Yet people that demand answers are mocked as "Truthers" - as if seeking truth is somehow to be ashamed of.

http://28pages.org/

FACT: 28 pages documenting specific indications of foreign government support of the 9/11 hijackers are being hidden from the American people.

Congressman Thomas Massie described the 28 pages as “shocking” and said, “I had to stop every couple pages and…try to rearrange my understanding of history. It challenges you to rethink everything.”

Concealing these 28 pages:

Prevents the American people from reaching informed judgments about the nation’s foreign and defense policies—past and future

Shields the sponsors of extremism from consequences for their actions—encouraging their continued sponsorship and endangering countless lives at home and abroad

Undermines the ability of 9/11 family members to achieve courtroom justice against governments who aided and abetted the deaths of their loved ones..

[Duppers]

5. "Truthers"

Great post, nationalize the fed.

The term "Truthers" unfortunately is used in a pejorative way to describe wild conspiracy theorists and so, in using that mode of propaganda, the PTB can taint and marginalize those seeking to expose the full and *real* truth.

There have been great crimes if not treason committed. The facts are leaking out bit by bit but where's the political will to make the full truth very public? And if it would be made public in headline news fashion, half the country would choose not to believe It, even with documented truth.

We've been fucked and the rape continues. Help us, Bernie.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

55. Has Obama read the pages? If not maybe he should?

[JDPriestly]

11. Good points!

[Enthusiast]

18. PLUS ONE, a whole bunch!

[Betty Karlson]

74. Hear hear! (eom)

[JDPriestly]

4. The movie, The Green Prince, shows how double agents are used.

The Bush administration was inattentive, but maybe the CIA did not want to betray a source in the Saudi government.

[Duppers]

8. Is any souce worth protecting at the cost of

how many lives and trillions of dollars?
Strange theory ya got there.

[JDPriestly]

10. Very good point in restrospect. But they probably did not see it that way prospectively.

Very sad. Very corrupt.

I did not mean to apologize for this. Just saying it might be what happened. Still a criminal error in judgment.

[Duppers]

12. Yes, thanks.

We can guess at their motivations.
It could've been a criminal error in judgement or just criminal?
Bush's joking about his "hitting the trifecta" still bothers me immensely.

[Enthusiast]

19. Criminal (treasonous) all the way.

[marmar]

6. How long before he wakes up with a horse head in his bed?

[Octafish]

14. Same day he dropped a dime.

NSA started "monitoring" Sen. Frank Church at least since 1975. War hero who did a great job for Idaho from Washington didn't make it through reelection in 1980.

[Man from Pickens]

7. connect some dots

At this point we all but know for certain that the 28 pages that some want declassified tell a tale of the Saudi government playing a critical role in the attack.

This guy's dad was CIA director before he was President:



Do you really have to be a crazy conspiracy theorist to put two and two together here?

[NightWatcher]

16. Pappy Bush will turn out to be one of the worst mosters in US history if we last long enough

He was in Dallas when JFK was shot and has not told of his actions that day.
He ran the CIA and was involved in the Iranian hostage/Carter/arms trade and dealings.
Central America. Cocaine. Juntas, Slaughter...
He was behind Reagan when he was out of his mind due to dementia.
His buddy, Dick, handled his kid in the white house and continued acting on his behalf.

We know what one of his kids did, with help from daddy's cronies.


I wonder if Jebbie will settle old scores in Central America for his daddy or take on the Iranians

[Enthusiast]

20. +1!

[yardwork]

26. If Jeb gets in the White House, there will be wars in Central America and the Middle East.

There will be another 9/11-type attack and it will be used as an excuse to open up some more wars.

And the reason is not complicated at all. It's purely profit. Going to war is extremely profitable for some people. The Bushes figured that out three generations or more ago.

[PeoViejo]

35. You can be sure JEB would be issuing a lot of Pardons, just like his Poppy did

with Iran-Contra, which, by the way included himself.

[SixString]

51. +2

A true wretch.

[Enthusiast]

21. Many of us put two and two together long ago.

So dirty, so criminal.

[MissDeeds]

25. And how do you dismiss a memo

that says "Bin Laden determined to attack inside US"? To me, that is either gross negligence, total incompetence, or "let it happen on purpose". Any of those options should result in inquiry and prosecution.

[yardwork]

27. IIRC, it said something like "bin Laden planning to fly planes into buildings in U.S."

C. Rice admitted this during the congressional hearings. I heard her say it.

They didn't dismiss it. They saw it as a way to make a whole lot of money.

[MissDeeds]

28. That's even worse than

I thought. Thanks for the clarification. It's unconscionable that they were able to get away with it. All of it.

[Enthusiast]

29. The investigation was a whitewash, obviously.

And imagine, no one in the media seriously questioned Bush and Cheney testifying together while not under oath. Does that sound like a responsible media? Hell, no!

The more you think about it the more obvious it becomes. If you are a new administration and they present you with a memo that says, "Bin Laden determined to attack inside US" it would be scary as hell. Something is rotten in Denmark. Stinky—big time.

[MissDeeds]

32. Yeah, they scared the crap out of everyone

and people willingly followed their lead. Remember the plastic wrap and duct tape advisory, not to mention the color coded threat levels that changed ever so often? It was all orchestrated to scare the bejesus out of the public so they would abandon common sense for the promise of national security.

The old "you're with us or you're against us" BS. They played the people and the media, and, for the most part, it worked.

[Enthusiast]

33. It was a huge well developed plan

It appears to be continuing right now.

[Jesus Malverde]

37. Don't forget the anthrax attack that shut down congress...nt

[MissDeeds]

38. That's right

As I recall they were even advising people to open their mail outdoors for fear of anthrax being sent to citizens via the mail. Bizarre times.

[Duppers]

9. Big K & R

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. K & R

[Octafish]

15. Newsweek's reporting the story...

...about cough time:

FBI Agent: The CIA Could Have Stopped 9/11

BY JEFF STEIN
Newsweek 6/19/15 AT 6:07 AM

EXCERPT...

Rossini says he is “deeply concerned” by how the agency continues to suppress information related to contacts between the CIA and Saudi Arabia, particularly when the spy agency is declassifying other portions of documents to show that it did everything possible to thwart the September 11, 2001 plot.

“There would have not been a 9/11 if Doug's CIR (Central Intelligence Report) on al-Mihdhar was sent,” he told Newsweek in an email. “Period. End of story.

“The total lack of accountability, nor a desire to drill down on the truth as to why Doug's memo was not sent,” he added, “is the reason why the 28 pages pertaining to the Saudis have been blocked” from release.

In 2005, Tenet, the CIA director at the time of the attacks, angrily refuted the judgment of then-CIA Inspector General John Helgerson who said Tenet did not do enough to stop the Al-Qaeda plot.

"Your report challenges my professionalism, diligence and skill in leading the men and women of U.S. intelligence in countering terrorism," Tenet wrote to Helgerson in another heavily redacted document released June 12. "I did everything I could to inform, warn and motivate action to prevent harm. Your report does not fairly or accurately portray my actions, or the heroic work of the men and women of the Intelligence Community."

Rossini claims still-classified documents would “show a pattern of financial assistance, and moreover, the CIA's role to try and recruit al-Mihdhar.” He says he was “convinced” of that and that “there is no other explanation" for the CIA refusing to release further information.

A former CIA field operative who worked at the CTC in 2001 told Newsweek earlier this year that Rossini’s theory had merit. “I find that kind of hard to believe, that [al-Mihdhar] would be a valid source,” says the former operative, who spent 25 years handling spies in some of the world’s most dangerous places, including the Middle East. “But then again, the folks that were making a lot of calls at the time there were junior analysts, who had zero general experience and absolutely zero on-the-ground operational experience or any kind of operational training.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-cia-344693

There is no statute of limitations on treason.

[grasswire]

22. good for reporter Jeff Stein nt

[Octafish]

58. The Inside Information That Could Have Stopped 9/11

BY JEFF STEIN
Newsweek / JANUARY 14, 2015

EXCERPT...

(Mark) Rossini is well placed to do just that. He’s been at the center of one of the enduring mysteries of 9/11: Why the CIA refused to share information with the FBI (or any other agency) about the arrival of at least two well-known Al-Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000, even though the spy agency had been tracking them closely for years.

That the CIA did block him and Doug Miller, a fellow FBI agent assigned to the “Alec Station,” the cover name for CIA’s Osama bin Laden unit, from notifying bureau headquarters about the terrorists has been told before, most notably in a 2009 Nova documentary on PBS, “The Spy Factory.” Rossini and Miller related how they learned earlier from the CIA that one of the terrorists (and future hijacker), Khalid al-Mihdhar, had multi-entry visas on a Saudi passport to enter the United States. When Miller drafted a report for FBI headquarters, a CIA manager in the top-secret unit told him to hold off. Incredulous, Miller and Rossini had to back down. The station’s rules prohibited them from talking to anyone outside their top-secret group.

All these years later, Rossini still regrets complying with that command. If he had disobeyed the gag order, the nearly 3,000 Americans slaughtered on 9/11 would probably still be alive. “This is the pain that never escapes me, that haunts me each and every day of my life,” he wrote in the draft of a book he shared with me. “I feel like I failed, even though I know it was the system and the intelligence community on the whole that failed.”

‘I Finally Broke Down’

The various commissions and internal agency reviews that examined the “intelligence failure” of 9/11 blamed institutional habits and personal rivalries among CIA, FBI and National Security Agency (NSA) officials for preventing them from sharing information. Out of those reviews came the creation of a new directorate of national intelligence, which stripped the CIA of its coordinating authority. But blaming “the system” sidesteps the issue of why one CIA officer in particular, Michael Anne Casey, ordered Rossini’s cohort, Miller, not to alert the FBI about al-Mihdhar. Or why the CIA’s Alec Station bosses failed to alert the FBI—or any other law enforcement agency—about the arrival of Nawaf al-Hazmi, another key Al-Qaeda operative (and future hijacker) the agency had been tracking to and from a terrorist summit in Malaysia.

Because Casey remains undercover at the CIA, Rossini does not name her in his unfinished manuscript. But he wrote, “When I confronted this person...she told me that ‘this was not a matter for the FBI. The next al-Qaeda attack is going to happen in Southeast Asia and their visas for America are just a diversion. You are not to tell the FBI about it. When and if we want the FBI to know about it, we will.’”

CONTINUED...

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/23/information-could-have-stopped-911-299148.html

Sounds like Stein's on top of the story. Thanks for the heads-up, grasswire! On DU1, this'd have 100 comments, most of them ADDING information. Now, it's avoided like people are afraid of being labeled "Truther" by Amazing Randi's J-REF Flock.

[riderinthestorm]

65. Rossini + Miller would be in jail charged under the Espionage Act w/ Obama

For daring to whistleblow this

[Enthusiast]

30. +1!

[Octafish]

59. Why did AG John Ashcroft stop flying commercial aviation in July 2001?

Warned of a "threat," the then-attorney general began flying aboard government charters when flying home to Missouri for his weekend fishing trips.

Ashcroft Flying High

CBS News
February 11, 2009 9:23 PM

Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

A senior official at the CIA said he was unaware of specific threats against any Cabinet member, and Ashcroft himself, in a speech in California, seemed unsure of the nature of the threat.

"I don't do threat assessments myself and I rely on those whose responsibility it is in the law enforcement community, particularly the FBI. And I try to stay within the guidelines that they've suggested I should stay within for those purposes," Ashcroft said.

Asked if he knew anything about the threat or who might have made it, the attorney general replied, "Frankly, I don't. That's the answer."

CONTINUED...

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-303601.html

As absurd as it sounds, Ashcroft's not even the worst of Them.

The next level down is occupied by George W Bush, the Coward of Crawford. Jim Hatfield wrote Bush, warned by Russia, Italy and who knows who else, was sore afraid of bin Laden aerial attack at G-7 summit in Geneva in April 2001 he wouldn't sleep inside the anti-aircraft missile protected luxury hotel on land, but elected to stay offshore, safer aboard a US destroyer. The story was the last thing Hatfield, author of "Fortunate Son," saw published before his suicide cough murder.

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield

Editor's note: In light of last week's horrific events and the Bush administration's reaction to them, we are reprising the following from the last column Jim Hatfield wrote for Online Journal prior to his tragic death on July 18:

July 3, 2001—There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

Why would Osama bi Laden want to kill, Dubya, his former business partner?

CONTINUED...

http://web.archive.org/web/20060906150015/http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

I'd download the copy off of the Wayback Machine. For some reason, I can no longer find it at Online Journal.

The amazing Amy Goodman still hosts an interview with the feller.

Thank you for grokking all these years, Enthusiast. Your friendship means the world.

[Enthusiast]

62. Thanks for that!

I had completely forgotten about John Ashcroft.

[PeoViejo]

36. They had zero experience but were Ideologically well-connected.

By 9/11, the CIA had purged its ranks within the Operational Community of anyone who might pay a visit to the Inspector General and cause trouble. Bush Gang learned its lesson as a result of Iran-Contra by bringing in Officers who were conducive to a 'Group Think' mentality. The rest is History.

[Octafish]

60. Those who follow Speaker Sam's adage will get ahead, too.

Back when we were a democracy, we were called "Citizens" and we were entitled to know the stuff our secret superiors know must be kept secret to protect George Bush's freedom. Ask NSA.

New NSA docs contradict 9/11 claims

“I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released," an expert tells Salon

By Jordan Michael Smith
Salon.com
Tuesday, Jun 19, 2012 04:24 PM EDT

Over 120 CIA documents concerning 9/11, Osama bin Laden and counterterrorism were published today for the first time, having been newly declassified and released to the National Security Archive. The documents were released after the NSA pored through the footnotes of the 9/11 Commission and sent Freedom of Information Act requests.

The material contains much new information about the hunt before and after 9/11 for bin Laden, the development of the drone campaign in AfPak, and al-Qaida’s relationship with America’s ally, Pakistan. Perhaps most damning are the documents showing that the CIA had bin Laden in its cross hairs a full year before 9/11 — but didn’t get the funding from the Bush administration White House to take him out or even continue monitoring him. The CIA materials directly contradict the many claims of Bush officials that it was aggressively pursuing al-Qaida prior to 9/11, and that nobody could have predicted the attacks. “I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released, because they paint a picture of the CIA knowing something would happen before 9/11, but they didn’t get the institutional support they needed,” says Barbara Elias-Sanborn, the NSA fellow who edited the materials.

SNIP...

Former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice has taken credit for the drone program that the Bush administration ignored. “Things like working to get an armed Predator that actually turned out to be extraordinarily important, working to get a strategy that would allow us to get better cooperation from Pakistan and from the Central Asians,” she said in 2006. “We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al-Qaida.” Rice claimed that the Bush administration continued the Clinton administration’s counterterrorism policies, a claim the documents disprove. “If the administration wanted to get it done, I’m sure they could have gotten it done,” says Elias-Sanborn.

Many of the documents publicize for the first time what was first made clear in the 9/11 Commission: The White House received a truly remarkable amount of warnings that al-Qaida was trying to attack the United States. From June to September 2001, a full seven CIA Senior Intelligence Briefs detailed that attacks were imminent, an incredible amount of information from one intelligence agency. One from June called “Bin-Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats” writes that “[redacted] expects Usama Bin Laden to launch multiple attacks over the coming days.” The famous August brief called “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike the US” is included. “Al-Qai’da members, including some US citizens, have resided in or travelled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure here,” it says. During the entire month of August, President Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Texas — which tied with one of Richard Nixon’s as the longest vacation ever taken by a president. CIA Director George Tenet has said he didn’t speak to Bush once that month, describing the president as being “on leave.” Bush did not hold a Principals’ meeting on terrorism until September 4, 2001, having downgraded the meetings to a deputies’ meeting, which then-counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke has repeatedly said slowed down anti-Bin Laden efforts “enormously, by months.”

CONTINUED w LINKS...

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/19/new_nsa_docs_reveal_911_truths/

Kissinger, working for whomever, has helped traitors rise to power since at least 1968. That's a lot of time on the outside.

[Enthusiast]

23. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

[rhett o rick]

24. What's being ignored are the questions: What was the failure and who is responsible? nm

[Enthusiast]

31. I don't believe it was a failure. It was intentional.

PNAC's new Pearl Harbor.

[rhett o rick]

34. I agree but they will never admit to it, but it's certainly fair to demand to know what

went wrong and who is responsible. So far they've all gotten off the hook by saying that they did all they could.

[jwirr]

41. Do we have names of the PNAC? Who are we talking about exactly and are they still in the game

today?

[Enthusiast]

43. We do know....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

[jwirr]

44. That answers one question - is it still going on today? Jeb was a founding member. And they have

changed their name like all organizations that fail and want to keep going. Periodically we are still hearing their voices: Cheney, Rumsfeld etc.

[Enthusiast]

45. I assume they are engaged in the same sort of shit they were before 911.

I would expect a false flag operation at any time, especially if they cheat Jeb into office. This is the junction of private interests and US intelligence. In the tradition started by G H W Bush, I guess. Probably a good guess.

[hifiguy]

42. LIHOP. nt

[Enthusiast]

46. At the very least.

[Aerows]

39. If anyone thinks you can shame the CIA

for being a corrupt and dirty organization beyond all imagination, you can't.

They *glory* in it.

They revel in what they can get away with, and push the envelope as far as they can. If you thought the police were bad, and the FBI is bad, you've not gone to the bottom of the barrel for the real uglies.

[Enthusiast]

47. I believe you are correct. So bad we can't even fathom the level of their depravity.

Think sadistic Nazis with an unlimited budget.

[Aerows]

48. They learned from them

Hell, nazis were on our payroll until last year when Congress voted to kick the last 3 of them off of Social Security.

[Enthusiast]

49. Yes. I read about that. Unreal.

[hifiguy]

40. Kick and Rec.

Those pages are redacted for one reason - to cover for the Bush Crime Family's Saudi business associates. There is no other possible explanation.

[Enthusiast]

50. I agree that there is no other possible explanation.

I guess when the media ignores something it ceases to exist.

[Gumboot]

61. And any trail of evidence that leads to the Saudis...

... will also lead to the Bush crime family and their minions, i.e. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz, Pearle, etc.

And we can't have that, can we?

[hifiguy]

52. JFK was right when he said that the CIA

shou;d be smashed into a thousand pieces. But they got him first.

[WillyT]

54. K & R !!!

[valerief]

56. We all know about PNAC and what PNAC "needed" to happen. nt

[ruffburr]

76. Thanks!!!

I brought this up a while back and was accused of being a conspiracy theorist and my post was deleted by the Admin.

[wiggs]

78. And...astonishingly, one GOP candidate for potus is an original PNAC signer. Even more

amazing is why we don't hear about that every single day that he makes any kind of news, as in:

'....today Jeb -- an original PNAC signer and neocon who famously and tragically supported the idea of a middle east invasion after a catastrophic event modeled after Pearl Harbor and whose brother, also known as Bandar Bush, carried out this plan in 2001 and 2003 which is widely considered the worst foreign policy blunder by any country at any time -- slow-jammed the news on Jimmy Fallon's late night show this week...'

[Dustlawyer]

57. I am pretty sure that would have come straight from Cheney if true!

[Omaha Steve]

63. Thanks for posting

K&R!

[HoosierCowboy]

64. CIA Director Tennant Testified before Congress

during the summer of 2001 that an attack was coming sometime during the fall of 2001. Somehow everyone seems to have lost that one. Also, an FX Channel TV show "The Lone Gunmen" had aired a episode about a computer controlled 747 crashing into, of all things, the World Trade Center about six months before.

All of which points to a few hard facts. George W. Bush had all the information needed to act, but didn't because the end result, 9-11, was exactly what he wanted to happen.

[RobertEarl]

66. Uh, yeah CIA could have stopped 9/11

President Cheney told them not to.

They knew. The CIA/FBI were following the perps the whole time.

[harrose]

67. Of Course The Repukes Could Have Stopped It... All They Had To Do...

... is get on the phone and tell their operatives "Abort mission."

[captainarizona]

68. any congressional hearings on this?

[eridani]

72. Bwaahhahhhahha! Making fun of Congress, not you

Welcome to our lovely nuthouse!

[JEB]

70. K&R for exposure.

[alittlelark]

71. 12 or so years ago I was almost banned from DU

for espousing this..............

[laserhaas]

73. A travesty of jystice occurred in investigating

Because the Bush family biz was in charge of security of the WTC,s...and should have never been allowed to control the investigation.

Or even hav anything to do with it!

[Go Vols]

75. K&R

[Politicalboi]

77. LOL!

Yeah right.