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This'll outrage you: Glenn Beck held a rally for white people at a Charleston Confederate Memorial. (Original Post) Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 OP
You tell me these misanthropes don't help load the gun . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #1
AKA: Stochastic terrorism. They don't know exactly who will launch a homicidal attack or KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #5
I detest the term stochastic terrorism Aerows Jun 2015 #22
"Terrorism" is anything but random. The 9-11 hijackers did not randomly decide upon KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #24
It's a terribly overused phrase, I agree. Especially on DU. randome Jun 2015 #29
^^^THIS^^^ valerief Jun 2015 #15
who? spanone Jun 2015 #2
... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #4
What a disgusting thing to do. eom Cleita Jun 2015 #3
Why do people continue to listen to these inciting POS? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #6
Fits their twisted world view.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #7
...... daleanime Jun 2015 #9
aw geez irisblue Jun 2015 #8
Ok so exactly how surprised should I pretend to be? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #10
Piece of shit bigdarryl Jun 2015 #11
There were cops carying signs that said, "Blue Lives Matter". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #12
The Pied Piper of the hopped-up, brain-dead, mouth-breathing sociopaths. Judi Lynn Jun 2015 #13
Cracks me up that the blackboard made them believe they were at school. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author lame54 Jun 2015 #16
White folk in Charleston are naturally traumatized:nowadays it's getting so white people struggle4progress Jun 2015 #17
What a vomit inducing POS. stage left Jun 2015 #18
syphilis is a terrible disease frylock Jun 2015 #19
That explains a lot.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #21
Well in fairness, Beckkk would like to be the next Hitler. nt Rex Jun 2015 #20
That shitstain apparently got his start in my neck of the woods... Wounded Bear Jun 2015 #23
I'd be more shocked if he held a rally for BLACK people durablend Jun 2015 #25
I am not sure right wingers can outrage me anymore... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #26
Nope. That didn't outrage me. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #27
Ahhh this is more like it... After seeing Romney come out for getting rid of the traitor flag dembotoz Jun 2015 #28
Are the mainstream media covering this? n/t moondust Jun 2015 #30
Nope. I don't think FOX "News" did either. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #31
According to the Huffington Post, that may be a misleading headline mostlyconfused Jun 2015 #32
Tweets from people who were there were not flattering. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #33
But the Huffington Post article and MSNBC on air coverage were... mostlyconfused Jun 2015 #34
So his choice of location was out of ignorance? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #35
Or a choice based on location and convenience mostlyconfused Jun 2015 #36
I suppose there is something overtly racist to have white people pray before that statue. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #39
His motives aren't pure. jen63 Jun 2015 #38
Is that Travis Bickle in the 2nd row? Erose999 Jun 2015 #37
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
5. AKA: Stochastic terrorism. They don't know exactly who will launch a homicidal attack or
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015

when or where, but they know that someone will eventually.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
22. I detest the term stochastic terrorism
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:46 AM
Jun 2015

By definition, terrorism is a random act designed to provoke fear in a population.

If you know what, who, when, and most importantly who, it isn't terrorism - it's warfare.

Calling it "predictable" "unpredictable warfare" is ridiculous.

That said, none of that means a rat's ass in the face of dead innocent people. What are we, as a society, going to do to stop the bloodshed? We have to do something. Every week it seems there are more innocent people getting gunned down.

How many people have to die before we say "ENOUGH!"

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
24. "Terrorism" is anything but random. The 9-11 hijackers did not randomly decide upon
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:55 AM
Jun 2015

their targets. Roof did not randomly happen upon the AME church.

What makes it stochastic terrorism is that these radio hosts can issue language that incites randomly, thereby staying within the current bounds of the First Amendment vis-a-vis Free Speech, but that leads to crazed followers acting out at some undefined and unpredictable point.

That said, I share your feelings. With an estimated 300 million firearms in private hands, I think it is proper to start calling it an 'epidemic' in the public-health sense of the term.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. It's a terribly overused phrase, I agree. Especially on DU.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jun 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
7. Fits their twisted world view....
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jun 2015

An example of twisting things to get uninformed people to support your own agenda:

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
11. Piece of shit
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jun 2015

Nobody that's African American ever said that all lives didn't matter.They are missing the point.Cops aren't killing white people at the rate they are killing blacks.Thats the point.

Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
13. The Pied Piper of the hopped-up, brain-dead, mouth-breathing sociopaths.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jun 2015

He doesn't realize what they'll do to him if they ever finally grasp how much respect he really has for them.

They are his "base!"

Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Original post)

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
17. White folk in Charleston are naturally traumatized:nowadays it's getting so white people
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 12:54 AM
Jun 2015

can't go discharge their weapons in black churches anymore without worrying that a bunch of black people might get in the way of the bullets

And what better way to remind everybody that "all lives matter" than to rally beside at statue of that famous American, John Calhoun, adored by whites and blacks alike for his touching defense of slavery as the greatest humanitarian advance of all time?

As Calhoun so often pointed out, Divine Providence, whose ways are so mysteriously unknowable to us all, had somehow, in its inscrutable workings, populated South Carolina with both whites and blacks in about equal numbers, whereupon the delightful institution of slavery suddenly and fortunately appeared, a gift from heaven, securing the full peace and happiness of white and black alike: Calhoun actually demonstrated slavery to be, in fact, the safest and most stable basis for democracy and freedom through the world, a marvelous instrument for ending all those awkward conflicts between labor and capital because the plantation master becomes the common representative of both!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. I am not sure right wingers can outrage me anymore...
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jun 2015

Starting back with Trayvon when they said "he's no angel" he had a baggy that smelled like weed.
They defended Darren Wilson to the very end.
They defend Josh Duggar and his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad parents.
They say liberals are racist because liberals talk about racists being racist jerks.
I did a poll once of who they think deserves to starve or go without basic necessities, they overwhelmingly decided anyone who works a minimum wage job deserves exactly what they get.
They cheer when faced with the prospect of someone dying because they lack health insurance.
They say that if it's a legitimate rape a woman has a way of shutting that thing down.
They don't care how many innocent people die from being wrongly convicted of murder as long as they can kill someone.

So this is just another example of a conservative being a conservative. They are terrible, horrible, no good, very bad, people and they are more than happy to point that finger at other people and tell them they are what is wrong with the world.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
27. Nope. That didn't outrage me.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jun 2015

Outrage comes from an angry feeling of utter disappointment.

But with me, Mr. Beck has long past the point of hoping for decency. He can't disappoint me anymore, because with him the only surprise I still feel is that he thinks of provocations I would never even imagine. If anything, I had some stomach-turning resignation: "Yeah, he'd be the kind of man to do that. And of course there are some bigots happy to join him."

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
28. Ahhh this is more like it... After seeing Romney come out for getting rid of the traitor flag
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jun 2015

I was wondering when the GOP teabag bigots would wake up

And like on cue...

mostlyconfused

(211 posts)
32. According to the Huffington Post, that may be a misleading headline
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:02 AM
Jun 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/20/thomas-roberts-charleston_n_7628774.html

He's wrong about plenty of things, but the article on addictinginfo seems a little over the top. I listened to a little bit of his program the other day...not an easy thing to do...but he was clearly talking about this crime being based on racism, that the gunman wanted to start a race war, etc.

I'm not making the case that he was there all out of pure motives...just that the source article ascribes the worst possible motives, when there is some reasonable doubt about that.

mostlyconfused

(211 posts)
34. But the Huffington Post article and MSNBC on air coverage were...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:51 AM
Jun 2015

and some tweets were not. That's kind of my point...that perhaps unlike the AddictingInfo article suggests, his motivations and actions in Charleston may not be what we assume.

mostlyconfused

(211 posts)
36. Or a choice based on location and convenience
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:13 PM
Jun 2015

If you take a look on Google Maps, Marion Square is the closest large park to the church. Then they would have walked down Calhoun Street to get to the church. Do you suppose there was some hidden racist meaning in choosing to walk down that street, or was it simply the way to get from the park to the church.

jen63

(813 posts)
38. His motives aren't pure.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jun 2015

He purposely coopted #blacklivesmatter with #alllivesmatter right after this terrorist attack. He's disgusting.

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