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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis'll outrage you: Glenn Beck held a rally for white people at a Charleston Confederate Memorial.
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Here's Glenn Beck leading a prayer. Let me note that behind me is a huge confederate statue of John C. Calhoun
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/19/glenn-beck-holds-rally-at-charleston-confederate-war-memorial-crowd-chants-all-lives-matter-images/
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)when or where, but they know that someone will eventually.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)By definition, terrorism is a random act designed to provoke fear in a population.
If you know what, who, when, and most importantly who, it isn't terrorism - it's warfare.
Calling it "predictable" "unpredictable warfare" is ridiculous.
That said, none of that means a rat's ass in the face of dead innocent people. What are we, as a society, going to do to stop the bloodshed? We have to do something. Every week it seems there are more innocent people getting gunned down.
How many people have to die before we say "ENOUGH!"
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)their targets. Roof did not randomly happen upon the AME church.
What makes it stochastic terrorism is that these radio hosts can issue language that incites randomly, thereby staying within the current bounds of the First Amendment vis-a-vis Free Speech, but that leads to crazed followers acting out at some undefined and unpredictable point.
That said, I share your feelings. With an estimated 300 million firearms in private hands, I think it is proper to start calling it an 'epidemic' in the public-health sense of the term.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
valerief
(53,235 posts)spanone
(135,832 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)An example of twisting things to get uninformed people to support your own agenda:
daleanime
(17,796 posts)irisblue
(32,974 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I really need to come up with a scale.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Nobody that's African American ever said that all lives didn't matter.They are missing the point.Cops aren't killing white people at the rate they are killing blacks.Thats the point.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,530 posts)He doesn't realize what they'll do to him if they ever finally grasp how much respect he really has for them.
They are his "base!"
Spitfire of ATJ
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struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)can't go discharge their weapons in black churches anymore without worrying that a bunch of black people might get in the way of the bullets
And what better way to remind everybody that "all lives matter" than to rally beside at statue of that famous American, John Calhoun, adored by whites and blacks alike for his touching defense of slavery as the greatest humanitarian advance of all time?
As Calhoun so often pointed out, Divine Providence, whose ways are so mysteriously unknowable to us all, had somehow, in its inscrutable workings, populated South Carolina with both whites and blacks in about equal numbers, whereupon the delightful institution of slavery suddenly and fortunately appeared, a gift from heaven, securing the full peace and happiness of white and black alike: Calhoun actually demonstrated slavery to be, in fact, the safest and most stable basis for democracy and freedom through the world, a marvelous instrument for ending all those awkward conflicts between labor and capital because the plantation master becomes the common representative of both!
stage left
(2,962 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)He's a fucking embarrassment.
durablend
(7,460 posts)This is just par for the course for them.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Starting back with Trayvon when they said "he's no angel" he had a baggy that smelled like weed.
They defended Darren Wilson to the very end.
They defend Josh Duggar and his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad parents.
They say liberals are racist because liberals talk about racists being racist jerks.
I did a poll once of who they think deserves to starve or go without basic necessities, they overwhelmingly decided anyone who works a minimum wage job deserves exactly what they get.
They cheer when faced with the prospect of someone dying because they lack health insurance.
They say that if it's a legitimate rape a woman has a way of shutting that thing down.
They don't care how many innocent people die from being wrongly convicted of murder as long as they can kill someone.
So this is just another example of a conservative being a conservative. They are terrible, horrible, no good, very bad, people and they are more than happy to point that finger at other people and tell them they are what is wrong with the world.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Outrage comes from an angry feeling of utter disappointment.
But with me, Mr. Beck has long past the point of hoping for decency. He can't disappoint me anymore, because with him the only surprise I still feel is that he thinks of provocations I would never even imagine. If anything, I had some stomach-turning resignation: "Yeah, he'd be the kind of man to do that. And of course there are some bigots happy to join him."
dembotoz
(16,804 posts)I was wondering when the GOP teabag bigots would wake up
And like on cue...
moondust
(19,981 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)mostlyconfused
(211 posts)He's wrong about plenty of things, but the article on addictinginfo seems a little over the top. I listened to a little bit of his program the other day...not an easy thing to do...but he was clearly talking about this crime being based on racism, that the gunman wanted to start a race war, etc.
I'm not making the case that he was there all out of pure motives...just that the source article ascribes the worst possible motives, when there is some reasonable doubt about that.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)mostlyconfused
(211 posts)and some tweets were not. That's kind of my point...that perhaps unlike the AddictingInfo article suggests, his motivations and actions in Charleston may not be what we assume.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I could buy that.
mostlyconfused
(211 posts)If you take a look on Google Maps, Marion Square is the closest large park to the church. Then they would have walked down Calhoun Street to get to the church. Do you suppose there was some hidden racist meaning in choosing to walk down that street, or was it simply the way to get from the park to the church.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)jen63
(813 posts)He purposely coopted #blacklivesmatter with #alllivesmatter right after this terrorist attack. He's disgusting.