Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:15 PM Jun 2015

Krugman: The Issue That Won’t Go Away

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/20/the-issue-that-wont-go-away/

So another atrocity has us talking about race again. And rightly so. Nothing about America makes sense without understanding the long shadow cast by the original sin of slavery.

And yes, it’s an integral part of the left-right divide. Look at “Why Doesn’t the United States Have a European-Style Welfare State?” by Alberto Alesina — yes, that Alesina — Ed Glaeser, and Bruce Sacerdote. The authors are hardly big lefties; nonetheless, they were driven to the conclusion that it’s mainly about you-know-what:


Racial discord plays a critical role in determining beliefs about the poor. Since racial minorities are highly overrepresented among the poorest Americans, any income-based redistribution measures will redistribute disproportionately to these minorities. Opponents of redistribution in the United States have regularly used race-based rhetoric to resist left-wing policies. Across countries, racial fragmentation is a powerful predictor of redistribution. Within the United States, race is the single most important predictor of support for welfare. America’s troubled race relations are clearly a major reason for the absence of an American welfare state.

To see what they’re talking about, and why their point remains so relevant, look at two maps. First, the implementation of the Affordable Care Act:

(The states that haven't expanded Medicaid match the states that had slavery pretty closely...)
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Krugman: The Issue That Won’t Go Away (Original Post) HomerRamone Jun 2015 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #1
Krugman right on the money as usual. roamer65 Jun 2015 #2
This is an old meme but it is still depressingly accurate hifiguy Jun 2015 #4
Hardly. Springslips Jun 2015 #5
Well, we have a lot of elected progressives in MN hifiguy Jun 2015 #6
What happened to Wisconsin is not at all inexplicable Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #7
That is true. hifiguy Jun 2015 #8
Money, especially Koch money, can certainly overpower morality. At least for a while. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #11
It's the white evangelical numbers muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #16
Kick and rec. hifiguy Jun 2015 #3
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #9
Big k & r lovemydog Jun 2015 #10
KnR for Krugman Hekate Jun 2015 #12
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #13
K & R. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #14
Exactly. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #15

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. Krugman right on the money as usual.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jun 2015

Truth be told, the old Union states have much more in common with the provinces of Canada than they do the states of the old Confederacy.

Like Britain and her commonwealth, The Union states had no problem enacting and enforcing anti-slavery laws. We also now do not differ than much on healthcare insurance as well.

Springslips

(533 posts)
5. Hardly.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:48 PM
Jun 2015

Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois is as jesus crazy as my State, so too is Penn, New York, Iowa and Maryland. Some of the mega-churches in California are as fundamentalnuty as anything I have ever seem here. This is accurate as a stereotype only. People need to get out and see the world.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Well, we have a lot of elected progressives in MN
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jun 2015

Starting with our outstanding Governor, Mark Dayton, Senators Klobuchar and Franken, and Reps Ellison and McCollum.

What has happened to Wisconsin is inexplicable. It used to be a sane and progressive place, with a tradition that included Bob LaFollette, William Proxmire, Russ Feingold and Pat Lucey,

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
14. K & R.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jun 2015

This is where economic injustice, historic injustice, prejudice, and even the problems of economic volatility and income disparity all roll into one.

Mr. Krugman deserves better exposure of his ideas.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Krugman: The Issue That W...