To all presidential candidates: Stop campaigning in SC until the Confederate flag is taken down.

[RandySF]

Its time presidential candidates stop putting time and money into a state that officially sponsors the display and maintenance of the Confederate flag with state taxpayer dollars.

[randome]

1. Excellent idea. (Unless, of course, we NEED SC's electoral votes.)

It's time to send a message but if that message includes losing the election...
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[struggle4progress]

19. South Carolina's electoral votes haven't gone to the Ds since 1976

And Nixon won the state in both 1968 and 1972

We won't win SC in 2016 unless we're winning the whole country by a blow-out

[HassleCat]

2. Or this

"I'm standing here, proudly, underneath this confederate flag to tell you it represents racism and hatred, and you should be ashamed you allow it to disgrace your fine state."

[Martin Eden]

5. I was thinking the same thing.

Go to SC and get in their face about it.

[bluestateguy]

3. Won't work unless all candidates do it

If all Republicans, but one do it, than that person has the state all to himself during the campaign season.

[cui bono]

4. What will that accomplish?

Is it just to keep them from spending money in the state?

[randome]

6. There doesn't need to be a practical goal if sending a message is more important.

SC's electoral votes have gone to the GOP in every election since 1980. I say all Democratic candidates should shun the state.

The hell with whatever the GOP does.
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[Man from Pickens]

7. My Cherokee friends want a flag taken down too

It's the US flag, under which a holocaust was perpetrated upon them, completely destroying their way of life.

Do they get the same privilege, of seeing a grossly offensive symbol removed from the halls of government? Or is this particular type of outrage specific to the Confederate flag, ending there full stop?

[pnwmom]

8. The Confederates fought a civil war for the right to enslave people and wave their flag.

They lost.

[Man from Pickens]

9. When they were shipping slaves over from Africa, and for most of the time slavery was legal in USA

guess which flag all that was happening under

That's right, it was not the Confederate flag.

I am just stunned at the "beam in thine own eye" phenomenon going on here.

Hell, we have a million slaves - mostly black and Hispanic - right here in the USA, right now, going on under the sanitized term of "prison labor". I'd even wager you have bought the products of this slave labor, such as Starbucks coffee, recently.

[pnwmom]

10. The United States fought a war to end slavery. The Confederacy fought to retain it.

I'm stunned at the people who can't see the difference.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026872638

[Man from Pickens]

13. Did it?

Then why do we have a million slaves in US prisons working for corporations today?

Slavery on a mass scale exists in the United States in the here and now, present day. If you sincerely find slavery to be wrong, doesn't that deserve your attention more than a fading symbol of a 150-years-ago rebellion?

Are you not aware of today's slavery, or do you not care? I'm baffled how you ignore this issue while being outraged at a Confederate flag.

[pnwmom]

14. The US isn't fighting FOR slavery, as the Confederacy did. n/t

[Man from Pickens]

16. So lying about motive makes it all better?

Are you at all familiar with what was done by the US government to the Native Americans, done under the US flag in the age before propaganda became an art form?

Was killing 4 million Vietnamese less bad than slavery because we claimed to be "fighting Communism"?

Still not a peep from you about modern-day slavery in the US. Why is it like pulling teeth to get you to even acknowledge that it exists?

[Art_from_Ark]

17. And yet, the Cherokees, under Chief John Ross, sided with the Confederates

because the Union had forced them to move from their ancestral homes to Indian Territory (Oklahoma), during which nearly 1/3 of the Cherokees lost their lives due to the cruel conditions of the forced relocation.

[BainsBane]

11. Seriously?

Democrats should stop campaigning in SC because the GOP likes their racist flag? That's a win/win for the Republicans.

[Koinos]

12. The majority of democrats in South Carolina are African-American.

And most South Carolina democrats very likely hate the confederate flag.

So democrats would only be hurting themselves by sabotaging their own primary.

[RandySF]

18. I don't want to cancel the primary.

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Voting would proceed and the delegation seated at the convention. But SC businesses need to feel the bite of decent folks who do not spend money in a state that officially sponsors the flying of the Confederate flag.

[Mira]

15. Perfect idea. n/t