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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Charleston Terrorist had a Racist Manifesto
ANYBODY who tries to claim this fuck is mentally ill needs to STFU!This man knew what he was doing, planned it out, and is nothing but a cold and calculating terrorist.
Don't believe me? Read his fucking manifesto for yourself:
http://gawker.com/here-is-what-appears-to-be-dylann-roofs-racist-manifest-1712767241?rev=1434812122867&utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Little Star
(17,055 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)racism, and all forms of hate, are a form of mental illness, myself. In the bigger picture.
That doesn't excuse acts of hate. Acts of hate ARE acts of terror. I agree that he is a terrorist.
Odd that it's a text document.
I'd point out that a relative who had a psychotic break planned out what he'd do--he'd been hearing voices for a while, but finally decided that they needed to be obeyed. He had everything prepared for what he'd do, with one exception: He relied on God to provide the weapon, as the voices in his mind said He'd do at the last minute, because otherwise it might be found. Otherwise, he'd planned things. The voices told him how to prepare. He followed his voices. His break didn't happen just before he beat up his mother; the break had happened early that day, the day before that, or possibly earlier.
He was disappointed that the ray gun the voices said God would cause to appear under the seat of his truck was not under the seat of his truck, so he couldn't kill the male relatives in his family. The arson and beatings of other family members, however, went according to plan.
My point isn't that Roof is or isn't mentally ill; that's a matter of great indifference to me today. My point is that the criminally insane can be quite rational in many or even most ways, no matter what Hollywood and popular stereotypes may say. They can easily be "cold and calculating," so that is irrelevant to the conclusion that he wasn't insane. The usual criminal insanity defense, IIRC, has to do with whether one can distinguish right from wrong, not with whether one is incoherent and unorganized. I find that few real terrorists have my definition of "right" and "wrong," so I honestly can't figure out how to apply that. The 9/11 hijackers were convinced their actions were right; I wouldn't call them insane. Then again, I'd want them found guilty, so my thinking is quite motivated.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)They had better approach it as such in the SC courts and make sure the punishment is the same as any black South Carolinean would receive for said crime.
malaise
(269,028 posts)White Supremacist racist to the core.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Dude is not crazy, just evil.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)there were a few pics with him holding it
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Initech
(100,079 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Evil.
malaise
(269,028 posts)It's official - as if he didn't know - he's a white supremacist
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)And btw, weren't they clever with that name? CCC.
mnhtnbb
(31,392 posts)One seriously twisted neo Nazi believer.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The Council of Conservative Citizens was the group that was successful in pushing to keep the Confederate Flag at the South Carolina state capitol.
calimary
(81,304 posts)OMG!
I'm just aghast! If I were at home reading that at the moment, I would want to go take a bath. And wash it OFF of me at least symbolically.
Dear God! The most horrifying thing is the thought of how many other people there are out there - who agree with that shit. Horrifying.
Initech
(100,079 posts)IVoteDFL
(417 posts)I can't even collect my thoughts.
White people it is time to step up. He wrote this manifesto to try to convince us that he is right. He is delusional. Do whatever you can from here on out to ease racial tensions. We can't keep on showing apathy. Go to meetings talk about racism, listen and learn about what we can do. Go to some events and march. Please get involved.
While this bastard rots away in prison I want him to watch the news and see peace rallies that he inspired. I want him to see "race mixing" at it's best, all over the nation. I want him to see that he has failed.